Google the pictures of the White House, demolition of the East wing. Not a permit, total disregard of the laws (as per usual). For me this is a symbol of the collapse of the USA.

5 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Google the pictures of the White House, demolition of the East wing. Not a permit, total disregard of the laws (as per usual). For me this is a symbol of the collapse of the USA.

Complete ignorance of an OP. The White House, as a federal property managed by the National Park Service and overseen by the General Services Administration (GSA), does not require local building permits for renovations in the same way private or commercial properties do. Federal buildings are generally exempt from state and local permitting requirements due to the principle of federal supremacy, which means federal law and authority take precedence over local regulations. But it’s ok and I don’t hold it against you and understand that the left doesn’t understand the rule of law.

11 minutes ago, khunJam said:

Complete ignorance of an OP. The White House, as a federal property managed by the National Park Service and overseen by the General Services Administration (GSA), does not require local building permits for renovations in the same way private or commercial properties do. Federal buildings are generally exempt from state and local permitting requirements due to the principle of federal supremacy, which means federal law and authority take precedence over local regulations. But it’s ok and I don’t hold it against you and understand that the left doesn’t understand the rule of law.

Not according to the news articles. But even then it still is an ugly thing that is happening.

@khunJam I'm not American so forgive me not knowing all the laws, I doubt you do but I don't start insulting 

11 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

I doubt you do but I don't start insulting 

Insult? Where’s the insult? I was being informative.

13 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

I'm not American so forgive me not knowing all the laws

Like I said earlier, you’re obviously a lefty so all is forgiven.

Trump lied again. He promised nothing would be touched. Anyone surprised?

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, khunJam said:

Insult? Where’s the insult? I was being informative.

Like I said earlier, you’re obviously a lefty so all is forgiven.

Everything from MAGA is left. Sorry to be Antifa!

No grownups in the building.

 

 

 

 

22 hours ago, khunJam said:

Complete ignorance of an OP. The White House, as a federal property managed by the National Park Service and overseen by the General Services Administration (GSA), does not require local building permits for renovations in the same way private or commercial properties do. Federal buildings are generally exempt from state and local permitting requirements due to the principle of federal supremacy, which means federal law and authority take precedence over local regulations. But it’s ok and I don’t hold it against you and understand that the left doesn’t understand the rule of law.

Here’s how the process is supposed to work:

1. Initial Proposal: The White House is managed by the National Park Service (NPS) but used by the Executive Office of the President (EOP). Any proposed change, even by a sitting president, begins internally through the Office of the Curator and the White House Facilities Management Division.

2. Historic Review: The NPS, as custodian of the White House under the Presidential Residence Act and National Historic Preservation Act (NHPA), must review all alterations for compliance with Section 106 of the NHPA. This requires assessing potential impacts on historic and cultural resources in consultation with the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP) and the D.C. State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO).

3. Planning & Environmental Oversight: The National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC) evaluates all major federal projects in the National Capital Region, including work on the White House grounds, for design, planning, and environmental impacts under NEPA (the National Environmental Policy Act). Public comment and design reviews are part of that process.

4. Aesthetic Review: The U.S. Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) reviews and advises on the design and appearance of any exterior modifications to the White House or its grounds.

5. Final Authorization: After approvals from NPS, NCPC, and CFA, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the White House Chief Usher / Facilities Management Office finalize funding, scheduling, and logistics.

Only after completing this full process could any major construction or demolition legally begin.

Yet Trump ignored every step, acting unilaterally through executive order, bypassing oversight, and ordering demolition as if he were a monarch. The result: the people’s house, altered without the people’s consent.

More details:

Section 107, let’s talk about it.

The above process has always been the process taken, and here’s why.

Section 107 of the National Historic Preservation Act exempts the White House, the U.S. Capitol, and the Supreme Court from being legally required to go through the Act’s formal Section 106 review. In other words, the law doesn’t automatically force those branches to follow the same procedures as other federal buildings. That exemption exists only because each branch of government controls its own seat of power, it was never intended as a free pass to ignore preservation, planning, or environmental rules altogether.

In practice, every administration since the 1960s has followed the same review structure out of duty, accountability, and executive-branch policy. The White House is still federal property, managed by the National Park Service under the Presidential Residence Act and subject to Executive Order 11593, which requires federal agencies to protect and consult on historic resources. Major exterior or site work still triggers National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC) and U.S. Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) design reviews, along with NEPA environmental assessments. Any project involving government resources must also comply with the Anti-Deficiency Act and federal ethics rules on funding and gifts.

So yes, Section 107 means the NHPA can’t force compliance, but presidents are still bound by a network of executive orders, planning statutes, environmental laws, and constitutional duties. That’s why the process described isn’t optional, it’s the framework that has always protected the people’s house from unilateral or politically motivated alteration.

These executive orders:

- Executive Order 11593 (1971) – Protection and Enhancement of the Cultural Environment - Requires all federal agencies (including the Executive Office of the President) to “locate, inventory, and nominate to the National Register all properties under their control” and to consult with the Secretary of the Interior before altering historically significant structures. (Demolishing part of the White House without such consultation would conflict with this order.)

- Executive Order 12148 (1979), delegates emergency and historic property responsibilities to the Department of the Interior, reaffirming that federal agencies must protect historic resources even when exemptions exist.

20 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Trump lied again. He promised nothing would be touched. Anyone surprised?

 

 

 

 

The US taxpayers are paying for it, so I think that gives them the right to see what is going on.

 

Besides, what has the treasury department got to hide, other than it is a colossal  waste of taxpayers money and time.

 

 

21 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Trump lied again. He promised nothing would be touched. Anyone surprised?

 

 

 

"And when you’re the king they let you do it. You can do anything.

Whatever you want.  Grab them by the ballroom. You can do anything."

 

All bad timing it seems. 
 

12 hours ago, billd766 said:

he US taxpayers are paying for it, so I think that gives them the right to see what is going on.

 

No, taxpayers are not funding this, thats horse $hit, the funding is from private sources.

 

YouTube (Google subsidiary)

$22 million

Part of a settlement from Trump's 2021 lawsuit over his account suspension after January 6. Funds routed through the Trust for the National Mall specifically for the ballroom.

Coinbase

Undisclosed (millions)

Crypto exchange committed funds; executives attended a White House donor dinner on October 15, 2025.

Apple

Undisclosed (millions)

Tech giant pledged support amid broader corporate outreach.

Microsoft

Undisclosed (millions)

Software leader among dozens of companies donating to "curry favor" with the administration.

Other corporations (e.g., Google executives present)

Collective millions

Over 50 companies invited to donor events; some asked if $25 million was "appropriate." Includes tech and finance sectors facing federal scrutiny.

15 hours ago, short-Timer said:

All bad timing it seems. 
 

Fake news - if it were real the khazi (throne?) would be gold!

1 hour ago, JAG said:

Fake news - if it were real the khazi (throne?) would be gold!

Good call and you don’t see Mike the groomer of the stool standing by…..anyway to me it’s all just another manifestation of his hate keeping in mind he started the day after the no kings demonstrations and his cartoon of sh@iting on America……another hate troll.

Trump Said He Wouldn’t Touch the East Wing. Then He Tore It All Down.

President Trump initially said the ballroom construction would not affect the East Wing. The White House now says it was cheaper and more structurally sound to simply demolish it.

...

President Trump acknowledged on Wednesday that he was having the entire East Wing demolished to make way for his 90,000-square-foot ballroom,

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/22/us/politics/east-wing-white-house-demolition-trump.html

 

 

2 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

Trump Said He Wouldn’t Touch the East Wing. Then He Tore It All Down.

President Trump initially said the ballroom construction would not affect the East Wing. The White House now says it was cheaper and more structurally sound to simply demolish it.

...

President Trump acknowledged on Wednesday that he was having the entire East Wing demolished to make way for his 90,000-square-foot ballroom,

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/22/us/politics/east-wing-white-house-demolition-trump.html

 

 

 

 

It's just a building built by slaves, nothing special

1 minute ago, proton said:

It's just a building built by slaves, nothing special

 

And now to be replaced by a building paid for........by slaves.

 

The U.S. national debt has surged past $38 trillion, according to the U.S. Treasury Department, just two months after surpassing previous forecasts to reach $37 trillion in August. This means the federal debt rose by $1 trillion in a little over two months, which the Peter G. Peterson Foundation calculates is the fastest rate of growth outside the pandemic.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/as-national-debt-accelerates-to-38-trillion-watchdog-warns-it-s-no-way-for-a-great-nation-like-america-to-run-its-finances/ar-AA1OZxAp

 

 

But no worries.............Trump will just raise tariffs on American consumers...........again.

On 10/21/2025 at 4:04 PM, bubblegum said:

Google the pictures of the White House, demolition of the East wing. Not a permit, total disregard of the laws (as per usual). For me this is a symbol of the collapse of the USA.

I thought you meant the great tag-team from the WWF.

 

"Here comes the Ax, Here comes the Smasher. They're Demolition, walking disaster! Pain and Destruction are our middle names!"

8 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

You forgot to add trumps name logo on the addition and you know how he is about people seeing his name in lights.

4 hours ago, JAG said:

Fake news - if it were real the khazi (throne?) would be gold!

I don't know if Melania would allow him to sit there. Officially there were her office rooms there.

 

Democrats are just so dumb, they would cry over anything

 

 

 

MAGA is running the show.

 

 

8 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

Democrats are just so dumb, they would cry over anything

 

 

 

MAGA is running the show.

 

 

So, in other words, 90% of the White House is totally unaffected.

 

Tempest, meet teapot.

21 hours ago, short-Timer said:

All bad timing it seems. 
 

Classic example of lefties sick, perverted humor. 

 

 

 

Thought it would be bigger.....!!

 

 

 

Thought it would be bigger.....!!

 

 

 

 

I bet you have heard that a few times....

On 20 January 2029, President Newsom will begin bulldozing the garish ballroom and begin reconstructing the lovely symmetry of the East Wing. President Newsom will also rip up the cement and re-install the beautiful grass lawn of the Rose Garden.

 

The current Corn Dog stand on Trump's Rose Garden abomination will be sent to Mar-a-Lago, where it will fit perfectly with the local decor.

 

The horrendous gold nonsense currently disgracing the Oval Office will be sent to an EPA Toxic Waste Dump.

4 hours ago, proton said:

 

 

It's just a building built by slaves, nothing special

Ah, sorry pork, but not the East Wing. That part of the WH was built well after slavery ended.

 

You must be confusing things with Mar-a-Lago, or maybe Trump Tower in NYC, which was built largely by undocumented Polish workers.

 

Glad to help.

4 hours ago, proton said:

 

 

It's just a building built by slaves, nothing special

It's a world-renowned symbol. Yes, it was built by slaves, but the entire US was built by slaves in its infancy. Trying to minimalize its importance is weak tea.