2 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

Applying this logic would actually imply she does not love you either. If she were just biding her time with the Austrian maybe because of agreed obligations but regarded you as the final solution and endgame, there would be no need for her to still be active on Tinder, TF etc..

You mentioned she sent the 6k back to you and didn’t come to CM because it would be a “waste of money.” Very unusual behavior. Well, it might be the Austrian’s doing. But if she perceives you as someone concerned about money, not having enough, or not willing to spend—someone who needs this 6k back—this would not exactly help your chances.

Maybe the older Austrian is more relaxed about his relationship with her, has enough money to shower her with it, and is more experienced and wise in dealing with such a brat, so it’s much more comfortable for her to stay with him—unless she finds something better. Girls in their prime always try to optimize their situation before settling down. I don’t blame them.

From what I see all her actions described in great detail so far have been that of a call girl, currently in a job, fending off Cannelloni, but still keep him interested until the current booking is over and will then go back to him (around the 8th February).

She is just doing her job, a guy can not expect to pay for a woman for her for her services and not expect her to have other clients as well.

She wants to keep all of her customers happy and not be exclusively to just one guy as she needs to keep all of her options open.

She is on the the 'dating sites' searching for new customers, that is no different to me using multiple agents to find a new contract when I was a freelance software engineer, I didn't cared which of the agents came up with the best paying job.

I bet most of her clients accept that, if they don't then it is their own fault.

2 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

Applying this logic would actually imply she does not love you either. If she were just biding her time with the Austrian maybe because of agreed obligations but regarded you as the final solution and endgame, there would be no need for her to still be active on Tinder, TF etc..

You mentioned she sent the 6k back to you and didn’t come to CM because it would be a “waste of money.” Very unusual behavior. Well, it might be the Austrian’s doing. But if she perceives you as someone concerned about money, not having enough, or not willing to spend—someone who needs this 6k back—this would not exactly help your chances.

Maybe the older Austrian is more relaxed about his relationship with her, has enough money to shower her with it, and is more experienced and wise in dealing with such a brat, so it’s much more comfortable for her to stay with him—unless she finds something better. Girls in their prime always try to optimize their situation before settling down. I don’t blame them.

The way she just again explained it was that she just wanted to live in Phuket. As she absolutely loves Phuket and the beaches. It was not about the Austrian. The Austrian, just happens to be her free rent ticket so she can live in Phuket. Which would otherwise cost her at least 30000 baht a month in rent and food, her estimate.

So there's no question of her loving the Austrian. She banged him, yes, but only so she can live there rent free, in her dream location.

I was no solution at all, as I repeatedly made clear I had no intention to move to Phuket and didn't like it. Yes, I did negotiate hard with her over money, because her demands were extravagant, probably her testing if I had money.

She now said "You pay me for room". So she wants me to send her 30000 for room and food, and then she moves out of the Austrian's place. So it's clearly nothing to do with the Austrian.

So bottom line, if I want to be with her, I have to move to Phuket. Where a shoe box condo costs 22000 baht, if you're lucky.

My thing with the Chinese Christian comically blew up.

It turns out that Jesus popped in for a mental chat and reminded her that adultery was a sin -tho I was fine with it on my end.

I expect that she will circle around back at a later date, as they all tend to. But never go back is my mantra. It was great while it lasted, 14 days. Like with dog years, what is that in Cameroni years?

I hit Tinder the next morning. I went out with someone who was a lot fatter than her pic, but a nice person. She had two hot white chocolate -hopefully without shame.

I talked to a bot for a short while and just now, another one. I ask them how they feel about me riding a bike in my profile, and then they go on with some AI blather. I don't mention riding a bike in my profile.

I'm chatting to 4 college educated women with reasonable English and two who are clearly using a translation app. Nonthaburi is where they all live.

I'm going out with a 55 year old Thai lawyer tomorrow in Nonthaburi. She sent me an unfiltered pic just now while she was at the Wat. Call it half a letter grade downgrade.

Chatty, funny, hates Trump. Not that I brought it up.

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Actually I bet 63yo is fake. She is living with a Thai lesbian and are scamming Cameroni together.

Entirely possible...

27 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

The way she just again explained it was that she just wanted to live in Phuket. As she absolutely loves Phuket and the beaches. It was not about the Austrian. The Austrian, just happens to be her free rent ticket so she can live in Phuket. Which would otherwise cost her at least 30000 baht a month in rent and food, her estimate.

So there's no question of her loving the Austrian. She banged him, yes, but only so she can live there rent free, in her dream location.

I was no solution at all, as I repeatedly made clear I had no intention to move to Phuket and didn't like it. Yes, I did negotiate hard with her over money, because her demands were extravagant, probably her testing if I had money.

She now said "You pay me for room". So she wants me to send her 30000 for room and food, and then she moves out of the Austrian's place. So it's clearly nothing to do with the Austrian.

So bottom line, if I want to be with her, I have to move to Phuket. Where a shoe box condo costs 22000 baht, if you're lucky.

She'd probably also object to you crowding her in her new apartment, so you'd need to get your own. 30k for her, 22k plus expenses for you. Still loving her?

At this point, he needs to cut and run and find another deal where he can be the Austrian-figure in the next go-round.

Don't hate the Austrian. Be the Austrian.

9 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

At this point, he needs to cut and run and find another deal where he can be the Austrian-figure in the next go-round.

Don't hate the Austrian. Be the Austrian.

Unfortunately for him, he's a small fish in a big pond. He thought he was the big fish. It's hurting his ego.

If the Cameroni universe has only two choices, be the Austrian is a no-brainer.

I am playing in a bigger pond where I, not them, am the unicorn. Pragmaticism, patience and IDGAF are all I need.

He needs luck and game. I really need neither. Sucks to be him, but he wouldn't be me for nothiin'.

Tinder strategy: When I said I did the local flavor of Meditation (VIppassana) instead of just saying meditation, my response rate tripled.

They don't want you to be Buddhist because that's their own private thing. They def like you being Buddist-friendly.

Possible dating site idea?

57 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

The way she just again explained it was that she just wanted to live in Phuket. As she absolutely loves Phuket and the beaches. It was not about the Austrian. The Austrian, just happens to be her free rent ticket so she can live in Phuket. Which would otherwise cost her at least 30000 baht a month in rent and food, her estimate.

So there's no question of her loving the Austrian. She banged him, yes, but only so she can live there rent free, in her dream location.

I was no solution at all, as I repeatedly made clear I had no intention to move to Phuket and didn't like it. Yes, I did negotiate hard with her over money, because her demands were extravagant, probably her testing if I had money.

She now said "You pay me for room". So she wants me to send her 30000 for room and food, and then she moves out of the Austrian's place. So it's clearly nothing to do with the Austrian.

So bottom line, if I want to be with her, I have to move to Phuket. Where a shoe box condo costs 22000 baht, if you're lucky.

I know 5 hotties in Udon. Rents half the price of Phuket.

59 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

From what I see all her actions described in great detail so far have been that of a call girl, currently in a job, fending off Cannelloni, but still keep him interested until the current booking is over and will then go back to him (around the 8th February).

She is just doing her job, a guy can not expect to pay for a woman for her for her services and not expect her to have other clients as well.

She wants to keep all of her customers happy and not be exclusively to just one guy as she needs to keep all of her options open.

She is on the the 'dating sites' searching for new customers, that is no different to me using multiple agents to find a new contract when I was a freelance software engineer, I didn't cared which of the agents came up with the best paying job.

I bet most of her clients accept that, if they don't then it is their own fault.

100% this.... describes exactly whats she is up to down to the letter...

55 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She now said "You pay me for room". So she wants me to send her 30000 for room and food, and then she moves out of the Austrian's place. So it's clearly nothing to do with the Austrian.

And she's made the same demands of 'how many clients' before ?

She gets her own place paid for by you so the poor little cherub does not have to smash crippled up 'Herr Wolfgang' who's taking terrible advantage of her.

She's then free to grind the tattoo's of any bogan she meets on any dating app - morning day or night.

Quite the earner.

55 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So bottom line, if I want to be with her, I have to move to Phuket. Where a shoe box condo costs 22000 baht, if you're lucky.

She'll never let you move there !! and if you do, she'll be busy...

End game - you rent a place in Phuket - rent must be paid upfront for 6 months etc

She's with you - but goes out when she wants while you work.

She's out all night wont explain where she is.

Tells you - take it or leave it you are free to go anytime you want.

You try and stop her going out - find out she's still on all these dating / hookup apps.

She tells you he has to make money some-how cos you don't pay her a salary.

To stop her going out she wants 30,000 baht per month from you.

You post on here and every tells you 'told you so'...

You tell us she's a 9 and worth every penny (baht).

11 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

If the Cameroni universe has only two choices, be the Austrian is a no-brainer.

I am playing in a bigger pond where I, not them, am the unicorn. Pragmaticism, patience and IDGAF are all I need.

He needs luck and game. I really need neither. Sucks to be him, but he wouldn't be me for nothiin'.

Tinder strategy: When I said I did the local flavor of Meditation (VIppassana) instead of just saying meditation, my response rate tripled.

They don't want you to be Buddhist because that's their own private thing. They def like you being Buddist-friendly.

Possible dating site idea?

The Cameroni universe works - if you give yourself a slap across the face and wake up to being taken for a sucker...

31 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

t this point, he needs to cut and run and find another deal where he can be the Austrian-figure in the next go-round.

Don't hate the Austrian. Be the Austrian.

He needs to cut and run and find a situation where he's neither.... If what Cam tells us that PG tells him of the Austrian guy is even remotely true - then he's being taken for a complete sucker too...

Don't be the guy (either of them) where the girl is taking you for a complete mug...

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

He needs to cut and run and find a situation where he's neither.... If what Cam tells us that PG tells him of the Austrian guy is even remotely true - then he's being taken for a complete sucker too...

Don't be the guy (either of them) where the girl is taking you for a complete mug...

You have to accept that these deals have the lifespan of yogurt and carpe that diem.

I had a friend who could see when women were going to break up with him before they even had the idea in their heads.

He would front load the charm and homemade dinners when he could see himself getting the boot 3 weeks out.

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She gets her own place paid for by you so the poor little cherub does not have to smash crippled up 'Herr Wolfgang' who's taking terrible advantage of her.

She's then free to grind the tattoo's of any bogan she meets on any dating app - morning day or night.

Quite the earner.

No. Obviously I told her the way to do it is if you come to CM, we then take it from there. If i'm going to move somewhere, she has to be here, and we then wrap everything up together and move together. My preference would be a tour of Thailand first, to see if other beach places may be an option. She would never EVER leave anywhere without me, not to see the parents, and not to the beach.

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She'll never let you move there !!

She's asked me many times to move there with her.

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

rent must be paid upfront for 6 months etc

Nonsense.

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She's with you - but goes out when she wants while you work.

I work from home, so not going to happen.

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She's out all night wont explain where she is.

Tells you - take it or leave it you are free to go anytime you want.

You try and stop her going out - find out she's still on all these dating / hookup apps

You have a wild fantasy. Even here she never wanted to go out at night.

Anyway much will depend on how the date with the Strawberry blonde tomorrow goes. She looks very promising on paper, lovely manner.

However, it's much too early to say if she'll be an alternative, tomorrow we meet for the first time.

So car is being cleaned and I'll have to do grooming tonight, then pile on the cologne. The things we need to do for them.

Will Strawberry blonde blow Phuket Girl out of the water?

Place your bets and see tomorrow.

40 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

If the Cameroni universe has only two choices, be the Austrian is a no-brainer.

I am playing in a bigger pond where I, not them, am the unicorn. Pragmaticism, patience and IDGAF are all I need.

He needs luck and game. I really need neither. Sucks to be him, but he wouldn't be me for nothiin'.

Tinder strategy: When I said I did the local flavor of Meditation (VIppassana) instead of just saying meditation, my response rate tripled.

They don't want you to be Buddhist because that's their own private thing. They def like you being Buddist-friendly.

Possible dating site idea?

Another legend in his own mind 😊

18 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No. Obviously I told her the way to do it is if you come to CM, we then take it from there. If i'm going to move somewhere, she has to be here, and we then wrap everything up together and move together. My preference would be a tour of Thailand first, to see if other beach places may be an option. She would never EVER leave anywhere without me, not to see the parents, and not to the beach.

She's asked me many times to move there with her.

Nonsense.

I work from home, so not going to happen.

You have a wild fantasy. Even here she never wanted to go out at night.

I don't think she'll agree to be your hostage. She didn't even delete her TF account. That's how much you are worth to her. Worth keeping as a back up plan, but not worth the actually giving anything up.

Was just your ego that told you she ran back to Phuket dude because of your messages with BG. It just made it easier. She was always going to go at some point.

Women with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) often experience love with extreme intensity, characterized by a mix of deep passion, fear of abandonment, and rapid, black-and-white emotional shifts. (Like when Phuket girl shifted from intense love to rejection after seeing the texts to others, which caused fear of abandonment) They may idealize partners initially, leading to fast-moving relationships, but can swiftly shift to devaluation or intense anger when feeling insecure or rejected. 

Key characteristics of how women with BPD experience love include:

• Intense Passion & Idealization: Relationships often start with intense, "soulmate" feelings where the partner is idealized, leading to rapid, passionate connections. [As I had indicated upthread, the passion was unbelievably intense]

• Fear of Abandonment: A deep-seated terror of being left often causes them to act in ways that test the relationship, swinging between intense clinging and sudden, protective withdrawal. [This is what caused her to leave and not go back, the fear that I'd abandon her as she saw me texting others]

• Push-Pull Dynamics: They may frequently alternate between loving, generous behavior and rejecting, spiteful behavior (often termed "splitting") to manage emotional needs or fears. [Exactly how she behaved when she as here]

• Emotional Volatility: Feelings can change instantly, shifting from loving to angry due to perceived slights, which is highly distressing for both parties.[Again exactly what happened]

• Hyper-vigilance: They may be extremely sensitive to signs of rejection, making them feel as though they love with a pain that stems from the fear of losing their partner. [Hence she kept such a close eye on my phone]

Despite these challenges, with self-awareness, therapy, and support, women with BPD can form stable, loving relationships, though it requires managing the intense emotional fluctuations. 

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

I don't think she'll agree to be your hostage.

Nobody is talking about hostage taking. However, it stands to reason that now she'll not travel anywhere alone. After what happened with Sisaket.

2 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

She didn't even delete her TF account. That's how much you are worth to her.

Yes she did. The TF account is deleted.

22 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No. Obviously I told her the way to do it is if you come to CM, we then take it from there. If i'm going to move somewhere, she has to be here, and we then wrap everything up together and move together. My preference would be a tour of Thailand first, to see if other beach places may be an option. She would never EVER leave anywhere without me, not to see the parents, and not to the beach.

She's asked me many times to move there with her.

Nonsense.

I work from home, so not going to happen.

You have a wild fantasy. Even here she never wanted to go out at night.

So you wouldn't let her out of your sight to visit her parents or go to the beach? You do realize that's control, which someone here said can't happen to women.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Women with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) often experience love with extreme intensity, characterized by a mix of deep passion, fear of abandonment, and rapid, black-and-white emotional shifts. (Like when Phuket girl shifted from intense love to rejection after seeing the texts to others, which caused fear of abandonment) They may idealize partners initially, leading to fast-moving relationships, but can swiftly shift to devaluation or intense anger when feeling insecure or rejected. 

Key characteristics of how women with BPD experience love include:

• Intense Passion & Idealization: Relationships often start with intense, "soulmate" feelings where the partner is idealized, leading to rapid, passionate connections.

• Fear of Abandonment: A deep-seated terror of being left often causes them to act in ways that test the relationship, swinging between intense clinging and sudden, protective withdrawal.

• Push-Pull Dynamics: They may frequently alternate between loving, generous behavior and rejecting, spiteful behavior (often termed "splitting") to manage emotional needs or fears.

• Emotional Volatility: Feelings can change instantly, shifting from loving to angry due to perceived slights, which is highly distressing for both parties.

• Hyper-vigilance: They may be extremely sensitive to signs of rejection, making them feel as though they love with a pain that stems from the fear of losing their partner. 

Despite these challenges, with self-awareness, therapy, and support, women with BPD can form stable, loving relationships, though it requires managing the intense emotional fluctuations. 

If that would be her diagnosis, seeing she does have some of the symptoms (of other illnesses also, so it would be up to a professional to ascertain), why would you still consider moving to a place in Thailand with her? People who's moods change that often are incredibly hard to handle in a relationship, and much of the time the other party also ends up suffering from a kind of PTSD. This is why most relationships where a person has a mental illness like depression, bipolar and BPD end with both parties suffering. I have been in relationships with people who were narcissists, had depression and extreme mood swings, and it's no fun at all.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Women with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) often experience love with extreme intensity, characterized by a mix of deep passion, fear of abandonment, and rapid, black-and-white emotional shifts. (Like when Phuket girl shifted from intense love to rejection after seeing the texts to others, which caused fear of abandonment) They may idealize partners initially, leading to fast-moving relationships, but can swiftly shift to devaluation or intense anger when feeling insecure or rejected. 

Key characteristics of how women with BPD experience love include:

• Intense Passion & Idealization: Relationships often start with intense, "soulmate" feelings where the partner is idealized, leading to rapid, passionate connections.

• Fear of Abandonment: A deep-seated terror of being left often causes them to act in ways that test the relationship, swinging between intense clinging and sudden, protective withdrawal.

• Push-Pull Dynamics: They may frequently alternate between loving, generous behavior and rejecting, spiteful behavior (often termed "splitting") to manage emotional needs or fears.

• Emotional Volatility: Feelings can change instantly, shifting from loving to angry due to perceived slights, which is highly distressing for both parties.

• Hyper-vigilance: They may be extremely sensitive to signs of rejection, making them feel as though they love with a pain that stems from the fear of losing their partner. 

Despite these challenges, with self-awareness, therapy, and support, women with BPD can form stable, loving relationships, though it requires managing the intense emotional fluctuations. 

Do I need to point out the obvious? You are exhibiting the same. Think about it...

Just now, fredwiggy said:

So you wouldn't let her out of your sight to visit her parents or go to the beach?

Obviously not, she can't go to the parents alone. We would go together. After Sisaket there's no way I'd let her go anywhere. Likewise the beach.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

You do realize that's control, which someone here said can't happen to women.

That's just pansy talk.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

why would you still consider moving to a place in Thailand with her? People who's moods change that often are incredibly hard to handle in a relationship, and much of the time the other party also ends up suffering from a kind of PTSD. This is why most relationships where a person has a mental illness like depression, bipolar and BPD end with both parties suffering.

No, BPD is actually possible to manage, and most people go in remission in due course. Plus relationships with BPD girls are exhilirating.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

So you wouldn't let her out of your sight to visit her parents or go to the beach? You do realize that's control, which someone here said can't happen to women.

If that would be her diagnosis, seeing she does have some of the symptoms (of other illnesses also, so it would be up to a professional to ascertain), why would you still consider moving to a place in Thailand with her? People who's moods change that often are incredibly hard to handle in a relationship, and much of the time the other party also ends up suffering from a kind of PTSD. This is why most relationships where a person has a mental illness like depression, bipolar and BPD end with both parties suffering.

Birds of a feather. Isn't it obvious?

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Obviously not, she can't go to the parents alone. We would go together. After Sisaket there's no way I'd let her go anywhere. Likewise the beach.

That's just pansy talk.

No, BPD is actually possible to manage, and most people go in remission in due course. Plus relationships with BPD girls are exhilirating.

Women all over the country travel alone on buses and trains, from villages to large cities and the beach. No way you'd let her go anywhere?

Most mental illnesses can be helped, with narcissism being one exception. They might admit they have it, but most would never do anything about it. Learned behavior is very hard to change, especially if it comes from childhood. Many won't take the first step, admitting they have a problem. They need structure, therapy and time to work around these issues.

And thinking it's fun being around these types is naive at the least. Look what she's been doing to you all along, which we can see from the outside and you might dispel being involved.

It might be pansy talk to you but you'll eventually see how alone you'll end up being a controller. Most women don't like it.

52 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yes she did. The TF account is deleted.

Really? People were posting updates of her being on mere seconds and minutes ago yesterday. Today...

Age

24

Gender

Female

Looking for

Man

Min. age

Any

Max. age

Any

Country

Thailand

City

Phuket

Last Active

15 hour ago

Height

160cm / 5 ft 2 in

Weight

48kg / 106lbs

Do you REALLY want to drive yourself mad?

Just now, emptypockets said:

Put yourself in her situation.

A young girl growing up in an Isaan village. Then discovering her sexuality.

No idea if she is beautiful. Many women do not until males start making moves on her.

Then she realises she may be desirable, but still very young, maybe 16 or 17, no idea what's going on in reality.

Still no real idea in her early twenties

Hard time of life.

,

2 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Really? People were posting updates of her being on mere seconds and minutes ago yesterday. Today...

Age

24

Gender

Female

Looking for

Man

Min. age

Any

Max. age

Any

Country

Thailand

City

Phuket

Last Active

15 hour ago

Height

160cm / 5 ft 2 in

Weight

48kg / 106lbs

Do you REALLY want to drive yourself mad?

That profile could be for any one of dozens of Phuket ladies.

Whats the obsession with this girl?

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

No. Obviously I told her the way to do it is if you come to CM, we then take it from there. If i'm going to move somewhere, she has to be here, and we then wrap everything up together and move together. My preference would be a tour of Thailand first, to see if other beach places may be an option. She would never EVER leave anywhere without me, not to see the parents, and not to the beach.

Does this involve a cage, ropes or just handcuffs ????

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

She's asked me many times to move there with her.

So the issue is you - you are not going so she's decided to get smashed by every flicker of Tinder interest...

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Nonsense.

Of course its nonsesne - but thats what she'll tell you - because she wants the pad paid for well after you had enough of her shagging anything that moves and decided to part ways.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

I work from home, so not going to happen.

You mean slavery ?... you will lock her away in a room - remove all online devices so she can't continue her p4p game on all the Apps...

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

You have a wild fantasy. Even here she never wanted to go out at night.

She hadn't put in the ground work there !!... (Yet)

Just now, emptypockets said:

That profile could be for any one of dozens of Phuket ladies.

Of course I'm not going to post her personal details here. It's clear as to what she has actually done with it.

Either way, it seems that the OP really wants to get involved. People will do what they want to do.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Anyway much will depend on how the date with the Strawberry blonde tomorrow goes. She looks very promising on paper, lovely manner.

Which aisle of Big-C have you planned to meet in ??? Avoid the crockery and dinner where aisle - didn't work out for you too well on your date with the Chiang Mai escort.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

However, it's much too early to say if she'll be an alternative, tomorrow we meet for the first time.

So car is being cleaned and I'll have to do grooming tonight, then pile on the cologne. The things we need to do for them.

Going to use the 'Sex Panther' by Odeon again ?...

.... illegal in nine countries... made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good - works 60% of the time all of the time ???? - go easy, I've heard it can sting the nostrils, but in a good way !

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Will Strawberry blonde blow Phuket Girl out of the water?

Why not ?? - odds are PG is blowing someone else at the same time anyway !!!

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Place your bets and see tomorrow.

Bets: Unless she's a 'ho' - she'll be more reserved and you'll have to up your game to get some sort of interest, results take time and you are too used to letting your cash do the talking..

23 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

That profile could be for any one of dozens of Phuket ladies.

Nope - its her profile. Same name...

All photos removed.... She was last online on that profile 15 hours ago.

She's still using it to talk with 'existing punters'...