On 1/29/2026 at 7:54 PM, Cameroni said:

I'd give her a reasonable amount, she's worth it. The problem would be if she looks at unrealistic scenarios and demands exorbitant amounts. I would say 30000 is just too high. She mentioned that figure to live in Phuket. But if she lived alone. If she lives with me this would change the figures.

Nope it would not, it would be you paying for all her needs, and she sounds like a high maintenance girl, + regular allowance + money for mom, sister, nephew and niece, uncle and aunty

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Nope it would not, it would be you paying for all her needs, and she sounds like a high maintenance girl, + regular allowance + money for mom, sister, nephew and niece, uncle and aunty

Don't forget she still needs to pay for her social media memberships - got to stay on top of business !!!

... Tinder Platinum, Bumble Premium, OkCupid Premium, Hinge Preferred+, Badoo Premium, Coffee Meets Bagel Premium, ThaiFriendly Premium ThaiCupid Platinum Membership, Omi Premium, Kooup VIP.....

And we wonder why those lips look like swollen takoyaki balls !!!!

31 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Don't forget she still needs to pay for her social media memberships - got to stay on top of business !!!

... Tinder Platinum, Bumble Premium, OkCupid Premium, Hinge Preferred+, Badoo Premium, Coffee Meets Bagel Premium, ThaiFriendly Premium ThaiCupid Platinum Membership, Omi Premium, Kooup VIP.....

And we wonder why those lips look like swollen takoyaki balls !!!!

That's all included in "High Maintenance" cost.

I wouldn't worry so much about those details if I was going to be in a relationship, what matters is what you learn as you go, and what's actually in real life puts you off, and serious red flags.

I have never crossed a red flag when it comes to relationships in my more mature days. Before yes, like a child wanted the one I thought was the ultimate girl I could not have, but the problem with those girls, they got boys lined up for them, and .........

Not talking about Asian girls.

Those you want are useally those you can't get, but that's before you learn your lesson, if ever

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Cam can try to polish that little turd, roll it in glitter and wrap it in feelings, sprinkle in emojis, invent couple nicknames and call her his “girlfriend” - but dressing it up doesn’t change the invoice at the core of it.

It’s still prostitution Cameroni is simply trying to rebrand it !!!!... Just like every other guy who sh@gged the cashier !!!

I do agree with you regarding what this thread told about PG...but, I dont think it’s in general just black and white.

Definitely quite an interesting question how exactly to define prostitution.

If you look at the roots of the term it apparently only meant someone offering company and does not distinguish between someone just looking for fun, someone wanting to make money or someone exploited and forced into doing this.

The verb prostituere is made of two parts: „pro“ and „statuere“.

Pro – meaning in front and Statuere – to stand/place/establish.

So, basically standing and advertising for yourself / exposing oneself publicly (to lust).

 

Some thoughts come to mind.

To qualify does it necessarily involve sexual actions?  What if there is payment just for time and company?

I was surprised how often I’ve heard stories from girls about encounters without sex. They went with someone, got paid but there was no sex. Cuddling only. Or just someone telling them his life story or taking them out for food, drinks, disco. Delusions of romance perhaps? There might be many reasons from fear of STDs to impotence or moral concerns. The girls thought that such guys are simply crazy but took the money nevertheless.

Does it necessarily involve payment of some kind?

Does it only count if a girl got several customers or is actively looking for them?

What about the very common thing of “Mia Noi” or “Xiao Lao Po”?

For instance, in border regions between Singapore and Malaysia and Thailand, always on the poorer side of the border there are thousands of mistresses living. Relatively luxury apartments, cars and allowances paid by the guys from the other side of the border. Often with kids, a secondary family. So, from the side of the girl probably a faithful and serious relationship – but without any doubt paid for. (As far I know in Asian culture this is not seen as prostitution.)

Is the “transactional” the main-thing? If a girl in the west sleeps her way up for promotions… Is this prostitution?

When I bring it to the simplest definition: they sell what they have, their time, qualifications and make themselves physically available for money… what’s the difference to any guy going to work at the office?

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

Nope it would not, it would be you paying for all her needs, and she sounds like a high maintenance girl, + regular allowance + money for mom, sister, nephew and niece, uncle and aunty

You missed out the kids she has 👍

4 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

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I do agree with you regarding what this thread told about PG...but, I dont think it’s in general just black and white.

Definitely quite an interesting question how exactly to define prostitution.

If you look at the roots of the term it apparently only meant someone offering company and does not distinguish between someone just looking for fun, someone wanting to make money or someone exploited and forced into doing this.

The verb prostituere is made of two parts: „pro“ and „statuere“.

Pro – meaning in front and Statuere – to stand/place/establish.

So, basically standing and advertising for yourself / exposing oneself publicly (to lust).

 

Some thoughts come to mind.

To qualify does it necessarily involve sexual actions?  What if there is payment just for time and company?

I was surprised how often I’ve heard stories from girls about encounters without sex. They went with someone, got paid but there was no sex. Cuddling only. Or just someone telling them his life story or taking them out for food, drinks, disco. Delusions of romance perhaps? There might be many reasons from fear of STDs to impotence or moral concerns. The girls thought that such guys are simply crazy but took the money nevertheless.

Does it necessarily involve payment of some kind?

Does it only count if a girl got several customers or is actively looking for them?

What about the very common thing of “Mia Noi” or “Xiao Lao Po”?

For instance, in border regions between Singapore and Malaysia and Thailand, always on the poorer side of the border there are thousands of mistresses living. Relatively luxury apartments, cars and allowances paid by the guys from the other side of the border. Often with kids, a secondary family. So, from the side of the girl probably a faithful and serious relationship – but without any doubt paid for. (As far I know in Asian culture this is not seen as prostitution.)

Is the “transactional” the main-thing? If a girl in the west sleeps her way up for promotions… Is this prostitution?

When I bring it to the simplest definition: they sell what they have, their time, qualifications and make themselves physically available for money… what’s the difference to any guy going to work at the office?

Whatever you call them, prostitutes is probably one of the mildest words for a whore. Women who sell sex for money.

So you can call her as you like, if we get down to brass tacks, she’s a prostitute, whore, harlot or another 100 words

As they say, Up to you.

1 hour ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

You missed out the kids she has 👍

I haven't seen that part, she got kids?

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

3 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

You missed out the kids she has 👍

I haven't seen that part, she got kids?

She has a 'sister' who has two kids...

... Or at least that's what she tells Cameroni - that could be the truth... However, given PG's fleeting relationship with the truth, that 'truth' becomes rather questionable and fits firmly into the stereotype of a p4p girl...

3 hours ago, geisha said:

Whatever you call them, prostitutes is probably one of the mildest words for a whore. Women who sell sex for money.

So you can call her as you like, if we get down to brass tacks, she’s a prostitute, whore, harlot or another 100 words

As they say, Up to you.

Its prostitution - that may seem like a character assassination, a moral autopsy and the organs are rotten... but it is what it is....

Her conduct screams emotional vacancy. Cold, calculated, transactional. She keeps a man circling like a hooked fish - drip-feeding attention, pulling away on cue, asking for money while rationing contact like she's the product.

She openly admits she’s been paid to spend time - and sleep - with a man she doesn’t even like (the Austrian). Not conflicted. Not confused. Just compensated.

She admits to running a carousel of men off dating apps. Not dates. Not connections. Inventory.

Money changes hands. Access follows. Whether it’s short-term “meetings” with app guys, a longer arrangement with the Austrian benefactor, or auditioning replacements while lining up the next sponsor through dating apps - the structure never changes. Time for cash. Company for compensation. Intimacy bundled into the package.

Remove the sex and there’s no interest. Remove the money and there’s no arrangement. That isn’t romance with blurred lines. That’s the operating model.

People like Cam wrap it in soft language - “helping with expenses”, “supporting someone they care about”. That’s the comfort blanket. The story they tell themselves so they can pretend they’re chosen, not billed. A fantasy built on selective blindness and emotional self-deception.

There’s no plausible deniability here. Just plausible delusion.

Call it what it is - pay4play. Transactional intimacy. Prostitution with better branding and worse honesty.

No outrage about the hustle. She knows the game and plays it efficiently.

The real punchline is the men convincing themselves it’s love, polishing a financial arrangement and calling it a relationship. It isn’t. Never was.

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

I haven't seen that part, she got kids?

At least 3, keeps tellin the lawyer boy they are her sisters.

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Remove the money and there’s no arrangement. That isn’t romance with blurred lines. That’s the operating model.

But that's 95% of the relationships in Thailand.

There is too much financial worry and debts in Thailand, people struggling to pay bills. Romance takes a back seat. Romance is Hollywood fiction.

The comments on this forum are mostly delusional.

This Youtuber has lived in several Southeast Asian countries for many years. And he says "when you are dating a girl, you are entering a financial ecosystem" ie where you end up having to support family members in addition to the girl.

I haven't followed the entire thread, but the attacks on Cameroni seem mostly out of touch with reality.

Prostitute or not, you need to provide. And there won't be a relationship if you don't. The exceptions are few and far between.

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I haven't followed the entire thread, but the attacks on Cameroni seem mostly out of touch with reality.

Most of the contributors in the thread know exactly what Phuket Girl is.. and how she fits into the "financial ecosystem" you've mentioned. No hard feelings at all.

The matter is rather Cameroni's denial that there is in fact a financial ecosystem and that it is a fundamental relationship factor in Asia.

I totally agree with you: most of the girls don't have the luxury to prioritize romance.

What he calls "serial dating" and is ready to forgive because he fell for her, others call prostitution.

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

13 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Remove the money and there’s no arrangement. That isn’t romance with blurred lines. That’s the operating model.

But that's 95% of the relationships in Thailand.

That might be 95% of the relationships in your circle but it isn’t my experience. Do you live in Phuket / Pattaya and mix with bar girls?

Most Thai-Thai partners seem roughly equal in my social group. Both are normally degree educated, both working and both providing for their families. There are exceptions where the wife gave up work to have a family but I also know exceptions where the wife supports a “deadbeat” husband.

What makes this thread ridiculous is Cameroni nailed the profile for a prostitute (20 years younger, no job / education, from Isaan but lives in a tourist enclave, lies…) but adamant that it is true love.

Well here we are 7 days off PH girls “arrival” day. Cameroni must be positively chomping at the bit whilst she’s still got seven days of chomping on lots of bits. It’s a “relationship” made in heaven. Wow the intrigue, will she show or not? What’s her next play? Has her P4P price been upped due to her own “personal inflation rates”? Has the yellow haired fat Austrian run out of energy filling her lovely box of delights or is he still good for several more goes at it? Question after question answers on here coming soon, be patient fellas.

54 minutes ago, Utalk2mutt said:

Well here we are 7 days off PH girls “arrival” day. Cameroni must be positively chomping at the bit whilst she’s still got seven days of chomping on lots of bits. It’s a “relationship” made in heaven. Wow the intrigue, will she show or not? What’s her next play? Has her P4P price been upped due to her own “personal inflation rates”? Has the yellow haired fat Austrian run out of energy filling her lovely box of delights or is he still good for several more goes at it? Question after question answers on here coming soon, be patient fellas.

Cameroni has been very quiet. No doubt it is because he has been busy in the gym, doing his world champion kick boxing training to hone his chiselled Adonis-like body even further. He goes to a very exclusive gym but he's a one percenter so money is no object when it comes to love........quite literally in his case.

She will swoon when she runs in to his arms and realises what she has been missing. She has probably forgotten how delightful it is to be controlled, ordered around, questioned and probed, and how much she loved pretending to delete all her dating apps. And those old man walks in the hot sun? Oh my how that is a young girl's dream!

Alas I wonder what surprises are in store. Will she have to go to visit her ailing mother out of the blue? Will her, ahem, sister's kids suddenly need looking after? Maybe she will have to travel to another province at short notice to attend to her civic duties being the well rounded community and democracy focused young professional that she is. (Or "pro" for short).

Seven days to go. True love is in the air.

On 1/31/2026 at 7:36 PM, Hummin said:

Nope it would not, it would be you paying for all her needs, and she sounds like a high maintenance girl, + regular allowance + money for mom, sister, nephew and niece, uncle and aunty

Don't forget the sick buffalo. 555

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Cameroni has been very quiet. No doubt it is because he has been busy in the gym, doing his world champion kick boxing training to hone his chiselled Adonis-like body even further. He goes to a very exclusive gym but he's a one percenter so money is no object when it comes to love........quite literally in his case.

She will swoon when she runs in to his arms and realises what she has been missing. She has probably forgotten how delightful it is to be controlled, ordered around, questioned and probed, and how much she loved pretending to delete all her dating apps. And those old man walks in the hot sun? Oh my how that is a young girl's dream!

Alas I wonder what surprises are in store. Will she have to go to visit her ailing mother out of the blue? Will her, ahem, sister's kids suddenly need looking after? Maybe she will have to travel to another province at short notice to attend to her civic duties being the well rounded community and democracy focused young professional that she is. (Or "pro" for short).

Seven days to go. True love is in the air.

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

She will swoon when she runs in to his arms and realises what she has been missing. She has probably forgotten how delightful it is to be controlled, ordered around, questioned and probed, and how much she loved pretending to delete all her dating apps. And those old man walks in the hot sun? Oh my how that is a young girl's dream!

Some how I don’t she will have forgotten about being probed as she’s a very accepting recipient of the Austrian love truncheon much to Cameronis distaste. It’s also likely because she’s a 9 that she now has far more money than he has. This AN top 1%’er has a lot of ground to be covering when she returns to the fold then watch that ego become planet sized ( if she actually does return that is). I’m not holding my breath.

4 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

I do agree with you regarding what this thread told about PG...but, I dont think it’s in general just black and white.

Definitely quite an interesting question how exactly to define prostitution.

If you look at the roots of the term it apparently only meant someone offering company and does not distinguish between someone just looking for fun, someone wanting to make money or someone exploited and forced into doing this.

The verb prostituere is made of two parts: „pro“ and „statuere“.

Pro – meaning in front and Statuere – to stand/place/establish.

So, basically standing and advertising for yourself / exposing oneself publicly (to lust).

 

Some thoughts come to mind.

To qualify does it necessarily involve sexual actions?  What if there is payment just for time and company?

I was surprised how often I’ve heard stories from girls about encounters without sex. They went with someone, got paid but there was no sex. Cuddling only. Or just someone telling them his life story or taking them out for food, drinks, disco. Delusions of romance perhaps? There might be many reasons from fear of STDs to impotence or moral concerns. The girls thought that such guys are simply crazy but took the money nevertheless.

Does it necessarily involve payment of some kind?

Does it only count if a girl got several customers or is actively looking for them?

What about the very common thing of “Mia Noi” or “Xiao Lao Po”?

For instance, in border regions between Singapore and Malaysia and Thailand, always on the poorer side of the border there are thousands of mistresses living. Relatively luxury apartments, cars and allowances paid by the guys from the other side of the border. Often with kids, a secondary family. So, from the side of the girl probably a faithful and serious relationship – but without any doubt paid for. (As far I know in Asian culture this is not seen as prostitution.)

Is the “transactional” the main-thing? If a girl in the west sleeps her way up for promotions… Is this prostitution?

When I bring it to the simplest definition: they sell what they have, their time, qualifications and make themselves physically available for money… what’s the difference to any guy going to work at the office?

Prostitutes plain and simple.

18 hours ago, save the frogs said:

But that's 95% of the relationships in Thailand.

There is too much financial worry and debts in Thailand, people struggling to pay bills. Romance takes a back seat. Romance is Hollywood fiction.

The comments on this forum are mostly delusional.

This Youtuber has lived in several Southeast Asian countries for many years. And he says "when you are dating a girl, you are entering a financial ecosystem" ie where you end up having to support family members in addition to the girl.

I haven't followed the entire thread, but the attacks on Cameroni seem mostly out of touch with reality.

Prostitute or not, you need to provide. And there won't be a relationship if you don't. The exceptions are few and far between.

That is the problem with a lot of guys, then only hang around with such women, their friends hang around with such women and they never see the real side of Thailand, or they convince themselves all women are like that just to cover up the fact they need to buy them and hide the fact educated professional Thai women are not at all interested in them.

It is a bit like a couple of Arabs I met in London many years ago, they only hung around with the so called hight class call girls in London and were convinced all English women could be bought, it is no different to many of the farangs in Thailand.

A farang said to me once he could buy any Thai woman, I said OK I bet you twenty thousand baht you could not just walk into that bank across the road and ask any woman working there if she would have sex for money, let's see what happens.

Of course he backed down, all such only guys know about are girly bars, it makes up 99% of their experience of Thailand.

I suppose all the doctors, professional women with their own career and own money can be bought, the truth is these type of women do not go near such farangs, most faraangse I bet have never met such a woman.

1 hour ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

That is the problem with a lot of guys, then only hang around with such women, their friends hang around with such women and they never see the real side of Thailand, or they convince themselves all women are like that just to cover up the fact they need to buy them and hide the fact educated professional Thai women are not at all interested in them.

I live in a middle class Thai gated community, and can honestly say ........ Thais mostly act like the residents of Pattaya. Despite being managers, doctors, nurses, schoolteachers, they nearly all have affairs, both husbands and wives.

Rampant promiscuity is the real side of Thailand.

1 hour ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I suppose all the doctors, professional women with their own career and own money can be bought, the truth is these type of women do not go near such farangs, most faraangse I bet have never met such a woman.

Women from upper class like doctors simply do not give me the time of day. I am not denying that.

Do I need to shower twice daily maybe? Not sure what it is.

On 2/1/2026 at 4:50 PM, save the frogs said:

On 2/1/2026 at 8:31 AM, richard_smith237 said:

Remove the money and there’s no arrangement. That isn’t romance with blurred lines. That’s the operating model.

But that's 95% of the relationships in Thailand.

There is too much financial worry and debts in Thailand, people struggling to pay bills. Romance takes a back seat. Romance is Hollywood fiction.

The comments on this forum are mostly delusional.

This Youtuber has lived in several Southeast Asian countries for many years. And he says "when you are dating a girl, you are entering a financial ecosystem" ie where you end up having to support family members in addition to the girl.

I haven't followed the entire thread, but the attacks on Cameroni seem mostly out of touch with reality.

Prostitute or not, you need to provide. And there won't be a relationship if you don't. The exceptions are few and far between.

Which takes me straight back to my earlier point...

[Yet for some observers, this remains almost impossible to imagine. Their view of Thailand is limited to the slice they have personally experienced, and anything outside that frame feels unrealistic or fabricated.]

It seems some simply cannot see outside of their world - there are plenty of normal relationship around us not based on a financial agreement or even finances at all.

What the YouTube above mentions is what some people might fall for, maybe you are in that situation (savethefrogs) which is why you are defending it - but thats just not so of most of the relationships around you - if you think otherwise its because you have not stepped away from the demographics of your circles.

On 1/26/2026 at 9:53 PM, richard_smith237 said:

The issue with making such a comment is that many people never witness a different reality because they stay within the narrow social circle at the lower end of Thailand’s socio-economic scale.

From that vantage point, they convince themselves it is impossible to interact with, build relationships with, or be accepted by people further up the ladder. Some say they are not interested anyway. I have heard countless variations of that excuse, but it usually boils down to the same thing - they have never been exposed to another side of Thai society, so they simply do not believe it exists in a meaningful manner thats accessible to them.

Whenever someone shares an experience like yours, the predictable comments follow. Claims that the person must be exaggerating - with sarcastic responses... "oh everyone says they have a hi-so white skinned Thai-Chinese Wife"... The assumption being that such stories are rare, unusual, or somehow suspect.

In reality, plenty of Westerners have crossed socio-economic boundaries here and built perfectly normal lives and relationships. That is not meant as a slight against people from poorer backgrounds, but rather to underline how ordinary your experience actually is.

I know many men who have dated and married well-educated, financially comfortable Thai women, also plenty who have partnered with hardworking women from humbler circumstances who have nothing to do with the stereotypes people like to throw around.

Yet for some observers, this remains almost impossible to imagine. Their view of Thailand is limited to the slice they have personally experienced, and anything outside that frame feels unrealistic or fabricated.

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Women from upper class like doctors simply do not give me the time of day. I am not denying that.

Do I need to shower twice daily maybe? Not sure what it is.

Would you be given the time of day back home ? - If not, then it’s unrealistic to expect a completely different result just because you’re in another country. This isn’t really about money - it’s about the whole person and the overall fit.

For me, choosing a partner has never been about looks alone. Physical attraction matters (significantly), of course, but it’s only one piece of a much bigger picture. I value education, not for status, but because it often shapes how someone thinks and sees the world. Personality matters - kindness, emotional awareness, the ability to communicate well and treat others with respect. A sense of humour, grace in how someone carries themselves, and a level of independence are all important too. Those qualities create balance and mutual respect in a relationship.

Some people are perfectly happy with a relationship that’s based mainly on physical attraction and and absence of communication... and that’s their choice. Not every relationship needs to be built the same way.

But for something meaningful and lasting, both people need to bring substance into the partnership. Shared values, compatible lifestyles, emotional maturity and the ability to talk about more than surface-level things - that’s what creates real connection. Attraction isn’t a one-sided checklist, it’s a two-way exchange of energy, effort and character.

When I first arrived here in my twenties and into my thirties, I met and dated women from all kinds of professional backgrounds - doctors, nurses, dentists, flight attendants, lawyers, designers. I built genuine friendships, social circles grew organically, and meeting people felt easy and natural. That was a different stage of life, for all of us, before I eventually settled down and got married.

If I were arriving now and hoping to date women in those same professions, the reality is I’d be looking for someone closer to my own age and life stage. A 25-year-old dentist is unlikely to be interested in a man my age for the right reasons - and if she were, I’d want to understand why.

At this point in life, compatibility, shared outlook, and being on similar footing matter to me far more than chasing youth or appearances - If I were single, my outlook would change I'm sure.

At the end of the day, it’s not about status, money or looks. It’s about mutual respect, shared values, and whether two people genuinely enhance each other’s lives.... I don't think that can be bought.

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I live in a middle class Thai gated community, and can honestly say ........ Thais mostly act like the residents of Pattaya. Despite being managers, doctors, nurses, schoolteachers, they nearly all have affairs, both husbands and wives.

Rampant promiscuity is the real side of Thailand.

How do you know about this ?? - Didn't I read in previous threads that you don't mix with Thai's... only the younger women you wish to sleep with ?

So... how did you gain this insight ?... the missus ?? how does she know ?

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

How do you know about this ?? - Didn't I read in previous threads that you don't mix with Thai's... only the younger women you wish to sleep with ?

So... how did you gain this insight ?... the missus ?? how does she know ?

That's the problem with lying. You need to have a very good memory.

He also said he doesn't associate with Thai men and farangs. Yet goes cycling with pals. Must be aliens.

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I live in a middle class Thai gated community, and can honestly say ........ Thais mostly act like the residents of Pattaya. Despite being managers, doctors, nurses, schoolteachers, they nearly all have affairs, both husbands and wives.

Rampant promiscuity is the real side of Thailand.

That sounds like it's coming from our usual suspect, who assumes everything without any evidence. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors in anyone's home. Husbands and wives lie and deflect so they don't lose face. People gossip all the time, especially here where it's a national pastime, along with that lying. You really only know what goes on in your own home.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Would you be given the time of day back home ?

In some ways, dating back home is better.

Dating in Thailand is blown out of proportion.

Yes, you can date younger and you can have more girls interested in you, but it's more often for the wrong reasons. Western girls are more genuinely interested in your personality to be attracted to you.

Here, your personality does not have an opportunity to give you an upper hand in dating as much as back home.

10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

In some ways, dating back home is better.

Dating in Thailand is blown out of proportion.

Yes, you can date younger and you can have more girls interested in you, but it's more often for the wrong reasons. Western girls are more genuinely interested in your personality to be attracted to you.

Here, your personality does not have an opportunity to give you an upper hand in dating as much as back home.

Back home 2 dates = 1x sex, and the dates cost a lot of money and weren't with the women I really wanted (4-5s).

In SEA each date =1-2x sex, and each encounter cost a lot less money and was with women I really desired (7-9s).

Maybe you're better at attracting white women than me, or maybe you're just less picky.

17 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I live in a middle class Thai gated community, and can honestly say ........ Thais mostly act like the residents of Pattaya. Despite being managers, doctors, nurses, schoolteachers, they nearly all have affairs, both husbands and wives.

Rampant promiscuity is the real side of Thailand.

I can only laugh at your comment.

17 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Women from upper class like doctors simply do not give me the time of day. I am not denying that.

Do I need to shower twice daily maybe? Not sure what it is.

It is the same thing the word over, professionals will want to marry professionals, the same is true of all walks of life, I doubt very much for instance a female doctor would not be interested in a plumber for example.

Of course there are always exceptions but that is the general rule.

17 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Women from upper class like doctors simply do not give me the time of day. I am not denying that.

Do I need to shower twice daily maybe? Not sure what it is.

Not sure doctors count as upper class ......... male or female.

I believe the word you were looking for is 'professionals'.

Pharmacists, schoolteachers and nurses were never a problem though.