7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Hmmm, it's possible. But if you consider Phayao is 4 hours drive, that would neatly explain why she has such a long running "errand".

 

i meant Phetchabun .    and last week (chiang dao)  somewhere else.    all seems like la la land to me,  at this point .     

1 minute ago, rumak said:

 

i meant Phetchabun .    and last week (chiang dao)  somewhere else.    all seems like la la land to me,  at this point .     

 

You and me, brother. I can't belief this girl's life style. Her pic now says Phayao. I'm losing track.

 

I think Angelina Jolie travels less, and goes to top restaurants less. Amazing the lifestyle good looking women can manufcature just by being pretty and charming.

 

What a life she has.

21 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Bali is cheap.  Take here there.  

 

She'll be lucky to get KFC and a Pizza now, until I get the full facts of what caused this cancellation, what this "errand" was really about and who she went with.

 

Or maybe a coffee.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

You and me, brother. I can't belief this girl's life style. Her pic now says Phayao. I'm losing track.

 

I think Angelina Jolie travels less, and goes to top restaurants less. Amazing the lifestyle good looking women can manufcature just by being pretty and charming.

 

What a life she has.

 

We all had our day (well, some of us ...)  .     She too will wake up one day , as all beautiful ladies do ........... look in the mirror ........ and feel the pain of time marching on

Just now, rumak said:

 

We all had our day (well, some of us ...)  .     She too will wake up one day , as all beautiful ladies do ........... look in the mirror ........ and feel the pain of time marching on

 

You always know how to make me feel better, Steve.

 

You're right, we all had our day. I still remember what I was able to do 20 years ago. It is so.

No offence  but seems to me you are chasing entirely the wrong type of girl. 

2 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

No offence  but seems to me you are chasing entirely the wrong type of girl. 

Yes, especially if the girl isn't doing much of the chasing

18 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

No offence  but seems to me you are chasing entirely the wrong type of girl. 

 

What do you mean?

42 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You always know how to make me feel better, Steve.

 

hahaha    you see,  you can be funny !   🤪

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

What do you mean?

 

follow closely :     Girl .    Type.    WRONG ! 

7 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

follow closely :     Girl .    Type.    WRONG ! 

 

Why is she wrong the type?

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Why is she wrong the type?

 

type the wrong,  bro .   anyway you look at it .... ( well, for most except you mr C ) , she done doing you wrong.    You done turned two cheeks already .  Might as well bend over and let her abuse the other 2 . 

Find a nice girl .   Learn Thai !    Look for innocence and sincerity .   (includes honesty)

5 minutes ago, rumak said:

Look for innocence and sincerity .   (includes honesty)

 

For the first 3 dates she was honest as can be. There was not a single lie you could uncover. She seemed innocent and sincere.

 

Only later did red flags come up.

 

Done me wrong how? We weren't boyfriend and girlfiend. We never agreed to be exclusive. She has every right to date another guy, as I have every right to date other girls.

 

Sure, we had a date and for the first time, in this series of 4, she cancelled. We still do not know exactly why. Yes, it looks like she went on a trip with a guy, but we don't know that for sure.

 

Do you think I don't want innocence and sincerity and honesty? That's what I was looking for. She said she had 2 boyfriends, she acted honest and sincere.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So I don't understand this "type" claim, you can't know what type of woman she is UNTIL she has done something that reveals her true character. That's the real problem.

 

Process of elimination .   If a hundred women,  the first cut should be easy . I am not sure you even passed that,  but will give you the benefit of the doubt.  After that.... tho thou dost protest with endless "she joked and touched my arm"  blah blah...... all here can see the red flags .  You could have manned up and just said .... don't play me.  Then her response would show a lot .   

Just now, rumak said:

 

Process of elimination .   If a hundred women,  the first cut should be easy . I am not sure you even passed that,  but will give you the benefit of the doubt.  After that.... tho thou dost protest with endless "she joked and touched my arm"  blah blah...... all here can see the red flags .  You could have manned up and just said .... don't play me.  Then her response would show a lot .   

 

Granted, I was taken in too much too easily by her charms, however, I could see the red flags too, but they were all very minor. There wasn't any major red flag..

 

Tell her "don't play me"? Sorry, I live in the real world.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Sure, we had a date and for the first time, in this series of 4, she cancelled. We still do not know exactly why. Yes, it looks like she went on a trip with a guy, but we don't know that for sure.

 

Love is blind .  I can not help you .    

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

Tell her "don't play me"? Sorry, I live in the real world.

 

You do not use those exact words.   I am trying to get a point across .   Hopeless ,

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

they were all very minor. There wasn't any major red flag..

 

you are an adult now .  minor stuff happens on all sides when young.   When actually looking for the real thing,  a lasting relatationship..... then better learn that the minor flags are really major flags that haven't fully blossomed yet.   

 

Confident, experienced men..... will nip it in the bud .   And be willing to move on if the chemistry is not right.

The guys you see who are miserable,  hanging on cause they were trapped.... many of them still make excuses for their mates behaviour.

 

4 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

you are an adult now .  minor stuff happens on all sides when young.   When actually looking for the real thing,  a lasting relatationship..... then better learn that the minor flags are really major flags that haven't fully blossomed yet.   

 

Confident, experienced men..... will nip it in the bud .   And be willing to move on if the chemistry is not right

 

 

Rumak, the chemistry was very good.

 

But anyway, thanks for saying what you really think.

16 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

you are an adult now .  minor stuff happens on all sides when young.   When actually looking for the real thing,  a lasting relatationship..... then better learn that the minor flags are really major flags that haven't fully blossomed yet.   

 

Confident, experienced men..... will nip it in the bud .   And be willing to move on if the chemistry is not right.

The guys you see who are miserable,  hanging on cause they were trapped.... many of them still make excuses for their mates behaviour.

 

 

These were ALL the red flags. All of them:

 

1) Accepted my date request immediately without any questions

2) 1404 farang in her follower's list

3) Gets drunk midweek and goes to nightclubs

4) Photos implying men should give cash to women

5) Interest not high enough

 

Apart from the last one not one was a major one that would warrant ending any relationship.  And this was fluid, when she accepted date 4 it looked like she had interest at 5 again. It's normal for a woman's interest to go up and down.

Next witness ,  please ............

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Done me wrong how? We weren't boyfriend and girlfiend. We never agreed to be exclusive. She has every right to date another guy, as I have every right to date other girls.

 

You're right .   But i believe that she was lying quite a bit .  Maybe that's nicer than saying, 'look Cam... i have other dates as well as with you,  so i may change plans as things come up .   "     

I hate lies .  And you can ask the thousands of guys here how often they were deceived.

Ultimately of course its up to you to decide , and you should know  better than the peanut gallery .   As we all say..... good luck .

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Rumak, the chemistry was very good.

If so why are you getting nothing back? 

9 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

You're right .   But i believe that she was lying quite a bit .  Maybe that's nicer than saying, 'look Cam... i have other dates as well as with you,  so i may change plans as things come up .   "     

I hate lies .  And you can ask the thousands of guys here how often they were deceived.

Ultimately of course its up to you to decide , and you should know  better than the peanut gallery .   As we all say..... good luck .

Yeah, but women lie all the time, about everything.

Best just to ignore their nonsense.

Also took a shot on the pics.

First one could be Cheeva De Cafe in Phusang national park.

Weird combination crocs with dress, so probably then with someone, not thinking it is weird. like a sister.

Must be really someone very close to her.

However remains weird in hi so society on showing status. All about performance. At the same time, you dont really know her and where she is coming from, for real.

 

Second one as said in Laos. However to get to the waterfall, you have to follow, walk an ONLY nature trail for 30 minutes !

You dont do that on crocs and a yellow dress, shown in pic one. You think she did it?

Thai women, dont want to get brown. Especially hi so. You said she is whitish, normal, as that is status.

A real hi so gets out of the sun, watching out to not ever getting brown.

Maybe she send as found on internet and she likes it, nothing to do if she was doing it.

I bet she didnt do that.

 

You should have asked about the emergency, just by simple "Oh what happened, nothing wrong with your mom?!

Then you show genuine interest in her, as you know mom is not doing well.

Way much better then "ok can happen", a turndown in interaction. You failed. 

 

26 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

You're right .   But i believe that she was lying quite a bit .  Maybe that's nicer than saying, 'look Cam... i have other dates as well as with you,  so i may change plans as things come up .   "     

I hate lies .  And you can ask the thousands of guys here how often they were deceived.

Ultimately of course its up to you to decide , and you should know  better than the peanut gallery .   As we all say..... good luck .

 

You're right. It is possible she lied and went on a trip with a guy. If that did happen, and we do not know for sure, there is no proof at this point, firstly it would not surprise me that a woman like this has one, two, three, four, five or six guys interested in her. I'm 54 and juggling 5 or 6 girls at a time, that girl is in her prime, she may have 10 or more. I always accepted this possibility. 

 

It would be foolish to believe that I was the only man in CM who had the idea to get with this girl.

 

If she did go with another guy, what did we expect, that she would tell me so? Of course not. I'm not telling her about Phuket girl. That would be crazy.

 

Sure, in  an ideal world total honesty would be nice. But can we expect it in real life? I'm not so sure.

16 minutes ago, marin said:

If so why are you getting nothing back? 

 

Because the chemistry was great IN THE MOMENT. Women go by feelings. I did get something back, she agreed to date 4, but obviously in the moment someone suggested a great trip to her and she accepted it. How could she not, it was a great trip.

 

Just because the chemistry was good with me on a certain date does not mean she could not have equally good chemistry with others.

35 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

At the same time, you dont really know her and where she is coming from, for real.

 

Exactly! None of us, nobody here really knows her. Or really knows who she went on this trip with. Where she is coming from.

 

Yes, it LOOKS bad, and it may be bad, but there could be other explanations.

 

35 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

You should have asked about the emergency, just by simple "Oh what happened, nothing wrong with your mom?!

 

That's exactly what I will do when I see her.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's exactly what I will do when I see her.

Too late, you missed the right time to do so.

2 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Too late, you missed the right time to do so.

 

Not at all. That conversation can still be had.