13 minutes ago, Redacce said:

I just happened to read (the last 3 pages) of this thread. 

I don't have a clue about you Cameroni but I'm hooked, lol.

I have a similar mindset but I'm more cynical than you.

Well done so far, CM girl is a  hoe by any means or a part time freelancer.. 

 

 

You're absolutely right. I strongly suspect CM girl is an escort, or freelancer as they like to call themselves.

 

I am still so FRICKIN' MAD that I fell for this woman so fast and so hard. She's a obviously a sex worker or a serial dater at best who is materialist to the core. Okay, she's smart and she was able to hide it, but there's no excuse for falling for a woman like that. No matter how attractive she is and how good she can hide her real intentions.

 

Still very mad this happened. I can't believe I wined and dined a sex worker without knowing it. Can it get more stupid, really?

 

Basically you can't be cynical enough with women. It's impossible. If someone had told me on date 2, this girl is a materialist serial dater/freelancer/escort, I would have laughed in their face. Everytime I: met her I thought it can't be surely? But actually, the truth was much more cynical.

Don't grill yourself. This has happened to many.

You can't do much actually, unless you are a mind reader. 

Simps fall hard for this all the time. The guy she went with has spent a ton of money on her and she will discard him on a whim, lol. 

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

My nemesis! The Lex Luthor to my Superman. The Joker to my Batman. The...you get the idea...

in my opinion, you will just make it worse by getting your ego involved and turning it into a competition.

 

even if you beat the other guy out, what are you getting?

a high maintenance girl that you will need to look over your shoulder every 10 minutes? 

 

unless you really believe that she wants to be with you and she is "testing" you .... could be, I guess. but not the most likely scenario from what I've gathered (and I've only followed the thread vaguely).

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

in my opinion, you will just make it worse by getting your ego involved and turning it into a competition.

 

even if you beat the other guy out, what are you getting?

a high maintenance girl that you will need to look over your shoulder every 10 minutes? 

 

unless you really believe that she wants to be with you and she is "testing" you .... could be, I guess. but not the most likely scenario from what I've gathered (and I've only followed the thread vaguely).

Totally agree,

Never compete with other men for any woman, make your offer, let her take it or leave it. If she doesn't accept, move on, it's not as if there's any lack of available women in Asia.

2 hours ago, Redacce said:

Don't grill yourself. This has happened to many.

You can't do much actually, unless you are a mind reader. 

Simps fall hard for this all the time. The guy she went with has spent a ton of money on her and she will discard him on a whim, lol. 

 

If you think about it, she says she's been "dating" this guy since 2023. Two years. And yet, when I ask her out on a date, she agrees to go on a date with me. What does that tell you? So it's obvious, isn't it?

 

She likes to spend the copious amounts of cash this guy has, go on cool trips he organizes, Omakase dinners, mountain cafes, but when she posts photos on her Insta, she shows off with the restaurant, the cafe, but not with him. So she's not proud of him. He's never in her photos. She's not choosing him because she likes him. She is ultra materialist and she chose him because of his trips and restaurants. and cafes. Because he has money and can give her fun experiences. That's the only reason she's with him.

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

even if you beat the other guy out, what are you getting?

a high maintenance girl that you will need to look over your shoulder every 10 minutes? 

 

It's much worse than that, she is the ULTIMATE material girl. All she goes for is the fancy trips and dinners. She's not just dating me and this other guy, there's several guys financing her holidays.

 

High maintenance doesn't begin to describe it. Who asks a guy to buy something after a third date? I've nver had that before. Total materialist.

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

it's not as if there's any lack of available women in Asia.

 

If you'd told me 3 days ago "there's plenty of fish in the sea" I would have told you "she's the entire ocean for me".

 

I need to be careful to see how I got to that place, and I must never go there again.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

High maintenance doesn't begin to describe it. Who asks a guy to buy something after a third date? I've nver had that before. Total materialist.

 

Escorts or escort-like women.

I popped into a bar and had a drink and the girl asked me to buy a 2500 Baht bike for her son's birthday, which happened to be the next day. 

 

So why are you torturing us with endless drama on here over a professional or quasi escort?

And why are you torturing yourself lingering in this situation? 

 

Men are ruining girls with these lavish holidays. Men should only shell out massive amounts of money for steady girlfriends. You pay for commitment. That's ok. You don't pay 10K, 20K, 50K just for sexcapades. That's nuts. Well unless she is a full-time escort. But otherwise, they are poisoning normal girls and preventing them from having real relationships.

 

Good luck, kiddo.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's much worse than that, she is the ULTIMATE material girl. All she goes for is the fancy trips and dinners. She's not just dating me and this other guy, there's several guys financing her holidays.

 

High maintenance doesn't begin to describe it. Who asks a guy to buy something after a third date? I've nver had that before. Total materialist.

She isn't dating you.

So she not just denied that she's a freelancer, obviously she can hardly put that in writing, she says I'm "rude" for suggesting it. But dating a guy for 2 years, whilst you agree to go on dates with other guys ,totally fine. Telling someone "I'll get back to you" when they want to do something special for her birthday, and then jetting off to Pattaya withotu saying a word, to open her legs for another guy, not rude, totally fine.

 

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

So she not just denied that she's a freelancer, obviously she can hardly put that in writing, she says I'm "rude" for suggesting it. But dating a guy for 2 years, whilst you agree to go on dates with other guys ,totally fine. Telling someone "I'll get back to you" when they want to do something special for her birthday, and then jetting off to Pattaya to open her legs for another guy, not rude, totally fine.

 

 

Oh dear!

Not a good conversation.

I think you have royally stuffed any chance you may have had.

Some things are understood but never mentioned.

16 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Oh dear!

Not a good conversation.

 

I actually held back. I was going to write "Rude? Was I really? How about you agreeing to go on a date with me whilst you date another guy for 2 years? Not rude? Telling me you'll get back to me  and then jetting off to Pattaya to have sex with another guy, without even bothering to say anything, not rude?"

 

"Enjoy your Simp and take him for all he has, so you can show off to your girlfriends, how you eat Omakase and go to mountain cafes. Then jump onto the next one, provided they have the cash. You're nothing but a materialist whore".

 

"If you fxxxng  with this girl, then you better be paid
You know why? It take too much to touch her"

 

Could just about stop myself.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I actually held back. I was going to write "Rude? Was I really? How about you agreeing to go on a date with me whilst you date another guy for 2 years? Not rude? Telling me you'll get back to me  and then jetting off to Pattaya to have sex with another guy, without even bothering to say anything, not rude?"

 

"Enjoy your Simp and take him for all he has, so you can show off to your girlfriends, how you eat Omakase and go to mountain cafes. Then jump onto the next one, provided they have the cash. You're nothing but a materialist whore".

 

Could just about stop myself.

 

 

I don't think you will see this girl again, even if you pay her. But I guess that depends how mercenary she is.

Forget about her and concentrate on what infection Phuket girl has.

22 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

I think you have royally stuffed any chance you may have had.

Some things are understood but never mentioned.

 

Do you seriously think I give a fxxk to be with this golddigger, liar, deceiver and outright materialist ho?

 

If I stay 100 km away from her, it will not be enough.

6 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

I don't think you will see this girl again, even if you pay her. But I guess that depends how mercenary she is.

 

I probably will see her, she goes to Central Festival all the time, and is at Warm Up every weekend. She's probably a local celebrity on the night life scene.

 

But in case any of you see this girl, my advice, don't walk, RUN. And as fast as you can. She calls herself "Hannah", obviously not her real name, and she looks like this:

 

A greater liar, deceiver, promiscuous serial dater and outright materialist girl, you could not have the misfortune to meet.

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I probably will see her, she goes to Central Festival all the time, and is at Warm Up every weekend. She's probably a local celeberity on the night life scene.

 

But in case any of you see this girl, my advice, don't walk, RUN. And as fast as you can. She calls herself "Hannah", obviously not her real name, and she looks like this:

 

 

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She doesn't do much for me.

Just now, emptypockets said:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She doesn't do much for me.

 

Because you know what a materialist, dirty deceiver she is now, of course that colours your perception now. If you see her in person, you'll want to marry her like everyone else.

 

The charm she has is unlike any person you can imagine.

You got dumped for someone else. You dont know who or why. In fact in reality you never even knew her name. You know nothing about her. You were smitten as happens to all of us, but then you went way too far overthinking everything. She is a millennial or perhaps even Gen Z which is really what you are searching for. You are a 50+ year old man who really knows little about Thai culture. Accept it and move on. She sure did your head in.

How is the new job going?

2 minutes ago, marin said:

You dont know who or why. 

 

I know exactly why. Because the other guy offered to fly her to Pattaya for the fireworks festival. She was not refusing my invitation for her birthday, no she kept it in reserve, waiting, to see if this guy would book the tickets. So when he did, she made her choice. It was all about the trip and Omakase and fun experience. Nothing else.

 

When she's showing off on insta, it's all photos of her, the restaurant, the food. Not ONE photo of him. NOT ONE! She's not proud of him. She's only proud of where his money gets her to eat and stay. That's all.

 

If she really were proud of him, she'd show him off to her friends, he'd be in the photos. She's not interested in him in the slightest.

 

9 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

How is the new job going?

 

Awesome, a lot of projects. I'll be making more money than with the other one. Almost twice more.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

know exactly why. Because the other guy offered to fly her to Pattaya for the fireworks festival. She was not refusing my invitation for her birthday, no she kept it in reserve, waiting, to see if this guy would book the tickets. So when he did, she made her choice. It was all about the trip and Omakase and fun experience. Nothing else.

 

What is her name? Think about that you do not even know. 

3 minutes ago, marin said:

What is her name? Think about that you do not even know. 

 

Which was another red flag. She refused to say her Thai name? Why? Because FROM THE OUTSET she knew she would just take you for all you had and you would hate her. This has happened to her countless times. That's why she's careful not to give her Thai name.

 

On the Pattaya pics she actually had a cake with the name "Hannah" on it, it may be her real nickname. But refusing to say her Thai name, I will make this a TOTAL and immediate break-off criteria in the future. Any woman who does not say her real name can go fxxk herself.

 

Happy to say Phuket girl had absolutely no problem to say her real name.

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Anyway, it is time for a sober analysis of the CM girl situation. What went wrong?

 

1. Obviously CM girl was a master player, and a total act, a serial dater who dated more than any human on earth. With the sole purpose of enjoying her life, going on expensive trips, restaurants, and to show off to her girlfriends. This truth was not evident, due to ther masterful acting skills.

 

2.  Due to her high attractiveness, I caught feels far too fast, and the Oxytocin messed with my rational faculties. The many little red flags, photos of wads of cash, going on trips twice in 3 weeks, asking for an iphone case after date 3, it was all ignored because of this.

 

3. Restaurant dates are OUT, in 2025 with high value women, it is trips of 2 days at least to exciting locations that is the draw.

 

4. Slow approach is idiotic, you have to escalate like a beast and fast.

 

5. The key is not to listen to the words. But look at the ACTIONS. Date 4 was delayed "sorry on a trip", posting photos of wads of cash, asking for a phone case and finally, the real massive red flag, cancelling date 4 a mere 2 hours before the meeting "I'm on an errand" after you saw she's in a resort. OBVIOUSLY she was banging a guy, and she still got the benefit of the doubt. Absolutely terrible naivety on my part. I had to break it off then and there. But she was too attractive to me, and the Oxytocin haze was too numbing.

 

The moral of the story, you should not be affected by women of exceptional attractiveness, even if they act like a goddess and look like a goddess, you have to be prepared to walk away at any time and not be attached to this.

 

The only way to accomplish this? Date even more beautiful and attractive women. I was ill-prepared for CM girl and didn't realise this. I thought I had been with so many beautiful women, but CM girl was on another level alltogether. Her attractiveness was not just rooted in beauty, it emanated out of her, like lava from a volcano, positivity, femininity, education, refinement, manners, good English and conversation, the perfect enactment of honesty and modesty. Quite a spectacle, and a pleasure to experience it. But very dangerous. Could the most beautiful things be the most dangerous? Diamonds cut, Tigers kill. It surely is so.

Sincere question. How tall are you?

Just now, sidjameson said:

Sincere question. How tall are you?

 

Quite tall, but below 1.96. Why?

 

I'm not short if that's what you're asking.

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Because you know what a materialist, dirty deceiver she is now, of course that colours your perception now. If you see her in person, you'll want to marry her like everyone else.

 

The charm she has is unlike any person you can imagine.

Nah, I'm quite happy with my snub nosed, splay footed, 60 year old Isaan darling.

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Awesome, a lot of projects. I'll be making more money than with the other one. Almost twice more.

Great news!

Every cloud etc.

Just now, emptypockets said:

Nah, I'm quite happy with my snub nosed, splay footed, 60 year old Isaan darling.

 

That's wonderful for you, and her obviously.

 

Splay footed, huh?

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Which was another red flag. She refused to say her Thai name? Why? Because FROM THE OUTSET she knew she would just take you for all you had and you would hate her. This has happened to her countless times. That's why she's careful not to give her Thai name.

 

On the Pattaya pics she actually had a cake with the name "Hannah" on it, it may be her real nickname. But refusing to say her Thai name, I will make this a TOTAL and immediate break-off criteria in the future. Any woman who does not say her real name can go fxxk herself.

 

Happy to say Phuket girl had absolutely no problem to say her real name.

Or her infection.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

That's wonderful for you, and her obviously.

 

Splay footed, huh?

Feet pointing slightly outward when she walks.