54 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Nah, just celebrating the ones they had got before they came to Thailand.

 

   Very decent of them not to shoot anyone , shows they are quite decent people 

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

But I showed examples of how two senior figures managed to do exactly the same thing.

Again, those were people coming from places where they were legally allowed to carry weapons. 

1 hour ago, w00n s3n said:

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

But I showed examples of how two senior figures managed to do exactly the same thing.

Again, those were people coming from places where they were legally allowed to carry weapons. 

 

 

Expand your thought process a little... 

 

The Israeli 'came' from a place where it was legal for him to carry his weapon...    and then forgot about the Mag in his bag...  Its not hard to imagine he travelled from Israel to Bangkok, Bangkok to Samui without security screening noticing the magazine... And then flu from Samui to Phuket where it was noticed.

 

Or.. do you think he was planning something nefarious with a 'single magazine' but no weapon and decided to do so passing through 3 Airports ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Expand your thought process a little... 

 

The Israeli 'came' from a place where it was legal for him to carry his weapon...    and then forgot about the Mag in his bag...  Its not hard to imagine he travelled from Israel to Bangkok, Bangkok to Samui without security screening noticing the magazine... And then flu from Samui to Phuket where it was noticed.

 

Or.. do you think he was planning something nefarious with a 'single magazine' but no weapon and decided to do so passing through 3 Airports ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you are telling me Israel, one of the most security-conscious nations on earth let a man with 29 rounds of live ammunition on a plane?

I.Dont.Beleive.That.

On 11/9/2025 at 12:25 AM, Patong2021 said:

 

Nothing  in the report supports your assumptions. You do not know that he has customers or is a smuggler. Nor is it likely that  the ammunition was stolen.

 

 

Your bias is showing

 

 

It is possible if the bag was not carry on. Although ammunition is supposed to be declared, it is allowed in baggage. The small number of bullets may have been missed by the screeners. It happens. The baggage screening machinery is set up to detect explosives and explosive devices.

 

 

I did not claim ignorance of the law was an excuse. I  only pointed out that he may not have realized  the magazine and some bullets were in the bag. As the US data shows, it is a common occurrence in the USA.

 

 

What did I write that was inaccurate?

Did you look at the  bullets? They are old and dirty. Why smuggle a handful of ordinance? The  ammunition in quantity can be transported in via an overland route from Myanmar or Laos.

 

The only people who don't have bias are cadavers.

 

Patong2021 is armless. "Let he that is without sin throw the first stone."

19 hours ago, w00n s3n said:

23 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Expand your thought process a little... 

 

The Israeli 'came' from a place where it was legal for him to carry his weapon...    and then forgot about the Mag in his bag...  Its not hard to imagine he travelled from Israel to Bangkok, Bangkok to Samui without security screening noticing the magazine... And then flu from Samui to Phuket where it was noticed.

 

Or.. do you think he was planning something nefarious with a 'single magazine' but no weapon and decided to do so passing through 3 Airports ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So you are telling me Israel, one of the most security-conscious nations on earth let a man with 29 rounds of live ammunition on a plane?

I.Dont.Beleive.That.

 

Yes...  thats what I'm suggesting - because thats what it looks like happened. 

 

What are you suggesting ??? - that a man deliberately tried to smuggle a Magazine of Nato rounds through Phuket Airpot ? - for what end exactly ?

 

 

Think of the aphorism - "When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras"

21 hours ago, w00n s3n said:

So you are telling me Israel, one of the most security-conscious nations on earth let a man with 29 rounds of live ammunition on a plane?
I.Dont.Beleive.That.

 

Have you look at the data from other nations that  have a prevalence of firearms? People can and do forget things.  I already referenced the US  data on the  thousands of incidents at US airports.

 

Luggage that is checked, is screened for explosives and it is not failsafe. Small amounts of ammunition can and do pass.

 

Look at the Turks and Caicos tourists with  guns and ammo   problem  from 2023-2024.  Little itty bitty Turks and Caicos, a  Caribbean holiday destination for the financially comfortable had five (5) Americans were arrested between December 2023 and May 2024 for bringing ammunition into Turks and Caicos.

 

 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/25/turks-and-caicos-ammo-charges-americans-arrested/73854455007/

 

I think it is a toss up in the stupidity championship crown between the people who forget ammunition in their bags and the people who try and spin the event into a sinister conspiracy.

 

On 11/8/2025 at 2:05 PM, Jingthing said:

How do you know that he isn't Palestinian?

Clutching at straws.

Palestinians are generally not given passports by the Israelis.

Half of them have had their businesses and livelihoods wiped out.

They are not required to be in the IDF.

 

I assume you were “joking”.

But it is a disgusting joke in my opinion.

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Have you look at the data from other nations that  have a prevalence of firearms? People can and do forget things.  I already referenced the US  data on the  thousands of incidents at US airports.

 

Luggage that is checked, is screened for explosives and it is not failsafe. Small amounts of ammunition can and do pass.

 

Look at the Turks and Caicos tourists with  guns and ammo   problem  from 2023-2024.  Little itty bitty Turks and Caicos, a  Caribbean holiday destination for the financially comfortable had five (5) Americans were arrested between December 2023 and May 2024 for bringing ammunition into Turks and Caicos.

 

 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/25/turks-and-caicos-ammo-charges-americans-arrested/73854455007/

 

I think it is a toss up in the stupidity championship crown between the people who forget ammunition in their bags and the people who try and spin the event into a sinister conspiracy.

 

Nice bit of whataboutism and apologist narrative that one.

The OP is about an Israeli.

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Clutching at straws.

Palestinians are generally not given passports by the Israelis.

Half of them have had their businesses and livelihoods wiped out.

They are not required to be in the IDF.

 

I assume you were “joking”.

But it is a disgusting joke in my opinion.

I find your post SLEAZY.

Arab Israelis have the same rights to apply for passports as Jewish Israelis.

On the businesses point, sounds like you're talking out of your arse. Also, if true, that wouldn't mean that no Arab Israelis have the means to travel. 

Yes we know they're not required to serve in the IDF, but they can do so if they choose.

Even more hilarious coming from you as several times you have whined when complaining about Israelis in Thailand, that NO you're not talking about Jews because of course many Arabs are Israelis too.

So which is it now? Whatever is convenient at the moment for your obessive and vicious trash Israel agenda I suppose.

I wasn't joking because I hadn't noticed the news giving further detail on his identity.

Cheers snookums.

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Nice bit of whataboutism and apologist narrative that one.

The OP is about an Israeli.

Your trolling is tiresome.

As was explained multiple times, people who use firearms can and do forget their ammunition in bags. It is not an isolated event.

You are making a fuss in this case only because the man is an Israeli. How many times has an Israeli been caught in Thailand with ammunition or a firearm in the past 5 years?  Try 10 years.  

 

South Africa has multiple incidents of undeclared ammunition. Sometimes people forget that they have their firearms in their bags.

One of the problems at JNB is that as soon as the ammunition in baggage is declared, it is stolen. The safari/big game blogs have multiple stories on the issue.   I recall 2 years ago when flights were delayed at WAW because of some ammo in a South African's bags.   https://commersant.ge/en/news/worl/warsaw-airport-evacuated-after-ammunition-found-in-luggage      People forget. More often than not there is no sinister intent. 

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I find your post SLEAZY.

Arab Israelis have the same rights to apply for passports as Jewish Israelis.

I find you extremely ignorant, most of what you believe is just wishful thinking.

 

• Limitations:
  • Issuance Control: The issuance of these passports is subject to approval from Israel, which cites security concerns for this restriction.
  • Travel Restrictions: Holders of a PA passport often require special permits from Israel or Egypt to exit and return to the Palestinian territories through controlled borders (such as the Allenby Bridge to Jordan or the Rafah crossing in Gaza), which can be very difficult to obtain.
  • Visa-free access: The Palestinian passport has limited visa-free access compared to other passports, with visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to around 39-53 countries and territories as of 2024-2025. 

 

Now let’s be honest, do you really think what you claimed or were you just being sleazy again?

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I find your post SLEAZY.

Arab Israelis have the same rights to apply for passports as Jewish Israelis.

On the businesses point, sounds like you're talking out of your arse. Also, if true, that wouldn't mean that no Arab Israelis have the means to travel. 

Yes we know they're not required to serve in the IDF, but they can do so if they choose.

Even more hilarious coming from you as several times you have whined when complaining about Israelis in Thailand, that NO you're not talking about Jews because of course many Arabs are Israelis too.

So which is it now? Whatever is convenient at the moment for your obessive and vicious trash Israel agenda I suppose.

I wasn't joking because I hadn't noticed the news giving further detail on his identity.

Cheers snookums.

 

I was surprised to discover that thousands of Arabs including both muslim and Christian serve in the IDF.

Approx. 1,500 Arab Bedouin soldiers serve in the IDF at any given time.

An estimated 5,000 Palestinian citizens of Israel (a term which includes Muslim Arabs, Christian Arabs, Druze, and Circassians) volunteer in the military, including reservists.

 

24 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

How many times has an Israeli been caught in Thailand with ammunition or a firearm in the past 5 years? 

I couldn’t tell you.

i am having trouble keeping up with the current Israeli crime wave, sexual assaults, rampaging in hospitals, illegal companies, counterfeiting, drugs, robberies, temple donation etc etc

 

Lets see what tomorrow brings.

41 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

I was surprised to discover that thousands of Arabs including both muslim and Christian serve in the IDF.

Approx. 1,500 Arab Bedouin soldiers serve in the IDF at any given time.

An estimated 5,000 Palestinian citizens of Israel (a term which includes Muslim Arabs, Christian Arabs, Druze, and Circassians) volunteer in the military, including reservists.

 

Druze very much so.

Otherwise a very small percentage of the rest.

I can't blame them at all.for not wanting to serve.

Many Jews who have no choices wouldn't either if they had a choice. 

 

42 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I couldn’t tell you.

i am having trouble keeping up with the current Israeli crime wave, sexual assaults, rampaging in hospitals, illegal companies, counterfeiting, drugs, robberies, temple donation etc etc

 

Lets see what tomorrow brings.

Wild exaggeration as usual.

48 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I find you extremely ignorant, most of what you believe is just wishful thinking.

 

 

• Limitations:
  • Issuance Control: The issuance of these passports is subject to approval from Israel, which cites security concerns for this restriction.
  • Travel Restrictions: Holders of a PA passport often require special permits from Israel or Egypt to exit and return to the Palestinian territories through controlled borders (such as the Allenby Bridge to Jordan or the Rafah crossing in Gaza), which can be very difficult to obtain.
  • Visa-free access: The Palestinian passport has limited visa-free access compared to other passports, with visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to around 39-53 countries and territories as of 2024-2025. 

 

Now let’s be honest, do you really think what you claimed or were you just being sleazy again?

You being sleazy of course.

You just conflated Arab Israeli citizens with Arabs in.the west bank and Gaza!

STOP LYING.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You being sleazy of course.

You just conflated Arab Israeli citizens with Arabs in.the west bank and Gaza!

STOP LYING.

 

    He really doesn't know the difference .

He isn't pretending to be ignorant .

He has only just learnt the difference between an Israel and a Jew .

The next lesson can be the difference between  an Israeli Palestinian and  non Israeli Palestinian 

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    He really doesn't know the difference .

He isn't pretending to be ignorant .

He has only just learnt the difference between an Israel and a Jew .

The next lesson can be the difference between  an Israeli Palestinian and  non Israeli Palestinian 

Maybe willful ignorance.

On 11/8/2025 at 1:55 PM, bogozy said:

Probably he is a soldier, and he forget this in the backpack. 

In Israel carry a weapon, and ammunition is not rare. 

Maybe if he is recognised, the best would be throw away. 

 

Carrying ammunition through Israeli airline security?

 

That might happen, but only if officially sanctioned.

 

Maybe not the tourist he’s said to be.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Arab Israelis have the same rights to apply for passports as Jewish Israelis.

Lol, you know very well there is huge discrimination.

In Israel, there are certain roads that Arab Israelis cannot freely use, or where access is heavily restricted in practice:

Jewish-only or “restricted” roads in the West Bank: While technically in occupied territories, some roads are officially off-limits to Palestinians, including Arab Israelis traveling from Israel proper into the West Bank.

Military checkpoints: Arab Israelis are subject to checkpoints when entering certain areas, while Jewish Israelis usually are not, slowing travel and sometimes denying access.

Access restrictions near settlements or sensitive zones: Some roads near Israeli settlements or military zones are limited to Jewish citizens or require special permits, which Arab Israelis often cannot obtain.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Carrying ammunition through Israeli airline security?

 

That might happen, but only if officially sanctioned.

 

Maybe not the tourist he’s said to be.

Israel is a terrorist Middle Eastern rogue state. The world should not allow them to get tourist visas.

9 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Lol, you know very well there is huge discrimination.

In Israel, there are certain roads that Arab Israelis cannot freely use, or where access is heavily restricted in practice:

Jewish-only or “restricted” roads in the West Bank: While technically in occupied territories, some roads are officially off-limits to Palestinians, including Arab Israelis traveling from Israel proper into the West Bank.

Military checkpoints: Arab Israelis are subject to checkpoints when entering certain areas, while Jewish Israelis usually are not, slowing travel and sometimes denying access.

Access restrictions near settlements or sensitive zones: Some roads near Israeli settlements or military zones are limited to Jewish citizens or require special permits, which Arab Israelis often cannot obtain.

They are just being sleazy.

They pretend to be ignorant when it suits them and then experts when it suits them.

They couldn’t lie straight in bed.

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Carrying ammunition through Israeli airline security?

 

That might happen, but only if officially sanctioned.

 

Maybe not the tourist he’s said to be.

They do kill people that call them out or oppose them in other countries.

They don’t care about borders.

That this guy was heading to the south of Thailand I don’t think is a coincidence.

 

He was up to no good. 

49 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Lol, you know very well there is huge discrimination.

In Israel, there are certain roads that Arab Israelis cannot freely use, or where access is heavily restricted in practice:

Jewish-only or “restricted” roads in the West Bank: While technically in occupied territories, some roads are officially off-limits to Palestinians, including Arab Israelis traveling from Israel proper into the West Bank.

Military checkpoints: Arab Israelis are subject to checkpoints when entering certain areas, while Jewish Israelis usually are not, slowing travel and sometimes denying access.

Access restrictions near settlements or sensitive zones: Some roads near Israeli settlements or military zones are limited to Jewish citizens or require special permits, which Arab Israelis often cannot obtain.

 

    There are places like that in Ching Mai .

You need a special permit to enter the Wing 41 area in CM, just like you need permits in Israel to enter certain areas 

On 11/8/2025 at 4:04 PM, Jeff the Chef said:

 

I'm 72, was on the range shooting Bren guns , 303 Lee Enfield's at 14, by 16, using SLR's 7.62 Nato rounds, give me any weapon that fires those "plinking rounds" and you stand at 1000 yards down range, take spare under crackers with you and a coffin.

 

What shooting range in this day and age would allow a person to stand 1000 yards down range?

 

but then at your age that person would be fairly safe!

 

 

9 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

What shooting range in this day and age would allow a person to stand 1000 yards down range?

 

but then at your age that person would be fairly safe!

 

 

 

One where you have signed a waiver that you are convinced that I would not be able to hit you because of my age, and you are being a volunteer target, in full knowledge of all the risks involved, being of sound mind and body.

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

Lol, you know very well there is huge discrimination.

In Israel, there are certain roads that Arab Israelis cannot freely use, or where access is heavily restricted in practice:

Jewish-only or “restricted” roads in the West Bank: While technically in occupied territories, some roads are officially off-limits to Palestinians, including Arab Israelis traveling from Israel proper into the West Bank.

Military checkpoints: Arab Israelis are subject to checkpoints when entering certain areas, while Jewish Israelis usually are not, slowing travel and sometimes denying access.

Access restrictions near settlements or sensitive zones: Some roads near Israeli settlements or military zones are limited to Jewish citizens or require special permits, which Arab Israelis often cannot obtain.

Straw man garbage!

The discussion wasn't about the west bank.

It was about how it is very possible for an Arab Israeli to travel  to Thailand n

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

They do kill people that call them out or oppose them in other countries.

They don’t care about borders.

That this guy was heading to the south of Thailand I don’t think is a coincidence.

 

He was up to no good. 

That's another lie.

Israel does take out enemies abroad such as terrorists and more controversially Iranian nuclear scientists.

Not just for calling them out.

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

They are just being sleazy.

They pretend to be ignorant when it suits them and then experts when it suits them.

They couldn’t lie straight in bed.

Who'd want to be straight in bed?

So boring.

You're responding to.a sleazy specious straight man post.