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I finally know why bacon doesn't taste like bacon anymore

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46 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Nitrites give you cancer.  Most processed meats have them, which is why I don't touch processed meats anymore.  You can get nitrite-free bacon and other processed meats that use things like celery salt instead, but I haven't seen anything like that in Thailand.

 

Don't be fooled by the term, celery salt. The product contains sodium nitrate. The sodium levels are just as high, because the primary ingredient is salt. Celery salt delivers sodium nitrate, but its use by food processors allows them to avoid declaring the use of sodium nitrate as a specific isolated ingredient.

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    not sure why anyone would want to adulterate bacon with soy sauce. yuk.  

  • Why not make your own, then you know exactly what's in it?    

  • I make my own honey and mustard dry cure bacon which takes about 2 weeks to cure, turning daily in the fridge. I use either loin pf pork or belly of pork, about 2kg at a time, and it tastes like thick

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3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

not sure why anyone would want to adulterate bacon with soy sauce.

yuk.

 

you missed the point of the post, it's thin sliced pork loin, awful without soy sauce/other

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3 hours ago, transam said:

That is not what you implied, bacon is from pork belly etc.......🤫

Your posts are useless and negative as per usual, try and be more helpful like shdmd, learn from him

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2 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Have you gone to smokey mountains food on the dark side?

Excellent, love their sausages.

Small shop but you can see the butchers working.

The jalapeños-cheese sausages is wonderful

 

Good tip thanks I'll check it next time I'm in the area

5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Your posts are useless and negative as per usual, try and be more helpful like shdmd, learn from him

So correcting you was negative, useless, and not helpful, riiiiiiiiiiight................😬

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1 hour ago, Briggsy said:

Doesn't bacon give you cancer?

Depends how much you eat, once a week should be ok

6 minutes ago, transam said:

So correcting you was negative, useless, and not helpful, riiiiiiiiiiight................😬

 

The point of our resident cheap charlie is that it cost too much, and he can make it cheaper, although it is NOT the same result

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3 hours ago, shdmn said:

 

Thinly sliced pork belly and loin is what I buy at Big C.  They are sometimes referred to as shabu slices on the description.  If you add salt it tastes exactly the same as cured bacon, but cheaper, fresher, and without nitrites, which have been proven to be carcinogenic.  If you want a smoke flavor you can buy something called liquid smoke.  I've seen it at Big C.

 

I can get nitrite-free bacon back home but I haven't found anything like that in Thailand.  I actually prefer turkey bacon now, but I haven't been able to find that anywhere in Thailand.

 

 

 

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I've not seen shabu slices, is that prepacked in the refrigeration area? i buy the pork loin thin slices from Lotus, pick how much you want, around 140 baht a kg

1 hour ago, shdmn said:

I've looked around, including Villa, but haven't seen it. 

 

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3 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

We Americans and most Europeans make our bacon from pork belly. The Brits make their bacon from the loin.

We Americans prefer our bacon smoked. Hickory is best, but Apple is OK. To be 'bacon,' and not just sliced pork belly, it needs to be cured correctly and should be cold-smoked.
The Pork loin-style bacon doesn't seem to be smoked.

We can buy excellent smoked American-style bacon in Rimping, sourced from three different suppliers (four if you include the French one that is really, really good!)  

It's easy to find great tasting bacon in Chiang Mai these days!

 

Nope, Brits (and Aussies) make bacon from the loin *and* the belly. One long continuous piece which is either sold as is or cut up into sections and sold separately. This is proper bacon, anything else is just a derivative.

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7 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

Nope, Brits (and Aussies) make bacon from the loin *and* the belly. One long continuous piece which is either sold as is or cut up into sections and sold separately. This is proper bacon, anything else is just a derivative.

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Thanks for this! I've never seen a cut made this way, but it makes perfect sense!

Now... if that had been in a cold smoker with a few Hickory logs first...😋

2 hours ago, Briggsy said:

Doesn't bacon give you cancer?

Maybe it’s the additives like the nitrates and such. Pork itself doesn’t cause cancer unless perhaps the porkie piglet is fed carcinogens.

3 hours ago, Jim Mac said:

Most frozen and chilled food comes in a chiller box in a refrigerated van. I also tried the Dubai chocolate and it was very disappointing. 

IIRC to get fresh/frozen goods delivered out here in rural Kamphaeng Phet, the shop has to put the stuff into a chiller box, take it to the bus station nearest them, call me on my mobile with the information, ship the stuff to Bangkok, somehow ensure that the stuff gets to the correct bus terminal and on the correct bus, not so many buses nowadays, and the arrival time at the destination village 6km away, for me or my wife to collect.

 

TBH I don't really think it is worth all the hassle.

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7 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

We Americans and most Europeans make our bacon from pork belly. The Brits make their bacon from the loin.

We Americans prefer our bacon smoked. Hickory is best, but Apple is OK. To be 'bacon,' and not just sliced pork belly, it needs to be cured correctly and should be cold-smoked.
The Pork loin-style bacon doesn't seem to be smoked.

We can buy excellent smoked American-style bacon in Rimping, sourced from three different suppliers (four if you include the French one that is really, really good!)  

It's easy to find great tasting bacon in Chiang Mai these days!

+1.

Chiang Mai has Gunther's G&M Sausages and bacon... tastes good to me.

Himalayan pink salt  is  NOT #1 cure, or Prague powder #1.  Two entirely different  things.  I can see no need at all for using Himalayan pink salt       when making bacon.  I've been making bacon and sausages for my own use for 6 years now.

8 hours ago, billd766 said:

Which I suppose is fine, IF you live in Pattaya but not everybody does.

Smokey mountains deliver, as I said no nobody find the shop anyway.

I'm being molested by my sausage dog for just reading this thread..down boy'🤔 

21 hours ago, shdmn said:

 

Thinly sliced pork belly and loin is what I buy at Big C.  They are sometimes referred to as shabu slices on the description.  If you add salt it tastes exactly the same as cured bacon, but cheaper, fresher, and without nitrites, which have been proven to be carcinogenic.  If you want a smoke flavor you can buy something called liquid smoke.  I've seen it at Big C.

 

I can get nitrite-free bacon back home but I haven't found anything like that in Thailand.  I actually prefer turkey bacon now, but I haven't been able to find that anywhere in Thailand.

 

 

 

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Curious to know which Big C carries it. I've looked all over Thailand and never found it. Last time I was in the US I picked up a whole quart of the stuff at Chef's Store. Be sparing with it. A little goes a very long way and it can be over powering.

11 minutes ago, uncletiger said:

 

Curious to know which Big C carries it. I've looked all over Thailand and never found it. Last time I was in the US I picked up a whole quart of the stuff at Chef's Store. Be sparing with it. A little goes a very long way and it can be over powering.

 

I think I saw it at Big C Extra in Central Pattaya.  I don't think it was the import section.  I was looking for something else at the time.  Maybe where the soy or hot sauces are.

4 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

I'm being molested by my sausage dog for just reading this thread..down boy'🤔 

Or from a very old UK TV series called "Blue Peter", you can still hear John Noakes crying "Get down, Shep".

1 hour ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Seems that some people just want to die as soon as possible with such unhealthy diet.

Yawn. 

 

More conspiracy theories.

 

I have eaten processed foods for most of my life and I am only 81.

20 hours ago, billd766 said:

IIRC to get fresh/frozen goods delivered out here in rural Kamphaeng Phet, the shop has to put the stuff into a chiller box, take it to the bus station nearest them, call me on my mobile with the information, ship the stuff to Bangkok, somehow ensure that the stuff gets to the correct bus terminal and on the correct bus, not so many buses nowadays, and the arrival time at the destination village 6km away, for me or my wife to collect.

 

TBH I don't really think it is worth all the hassle.

You are no more rural than me. Why are you on about buses. The package is collected from the seller by a refrigerated van passed on to the next hub collected by another van also refrigerated and so on until it reaches your home. Still cold or frozen in a polystyrene box surrounded by ice packs.

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4 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Seems that some people just want to die as soon as possible with such unhealthy diet.

Relax it won't kill you once a week or so

22 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've not seen shabu slices, is that prepacked in the refrigeration area? i buy the pork loin thin slices from Lotus, pick how much you want, around 140 baht a kg

 

I've seen thin sliced pork belly at Lotus, from those by weight bins, but I've never seen thinly sliced pork loin there.  The shabu slices at Big C are generally thinner, prepackaged, and found in the refrigerated meat section near those bins.  If they had it in the by weight bins I would buy it from there instead. 

2 hours ago, Jim Mac said:

You are no more rural than me. Why are you on about buses. The package is collected from the seller by a refrigerated van passed on to the next hub collected by another van also refrigerated and so on until it reaches your home. Still cold or frozen in a polystyrene box surrounded by ice packs.

I am talking about buses as that was the last information update I had. Granted that I have never bothered to order fresh/frozen food I have also never seen a refrigerated delivery van belonging to ANY delivery company in this area.

 

Out here delivery is normally by "Flash" and that is normally a box van pr a motorbike,

On 12/6/2025 at 12:06 PM, billd766 said:

Which I suppose is fine, IF you live in Pattaya but not everybody does.

Smokey mountains deliver, as I said no nobody find the shop anyway.

Have you considered your age, I'm 58, my tastebuds and eyes are not the same.

Damn it makes a different life, still work (BOI WP)

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

 

Out here delivery is normally by "Flash" and that is normally a box van pr a motorbike,

Not really a problem, smokey mountains ship frozen.

I got cheese from Denmark and Sweden by friends tourists luggage, no problems.

Only problem was the Danish cheese. "Game ole" it's very smelly so I had to eat outdoors and brush my teeth twice.

Damn I miss smelly cheese, I go to a durian shop and ask for overripe , they're going to trash it so I buy.

Overripe Durian is perfect for cupcakes, my Mia Noi thought I was crazy, now she gives them to all her friends.

Mmmmmm Durian cupcake......have to go and shop before they trash it

 

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