I moved into a new condo a month ago. Used this guy the office knew...not a real agent, to write up the lease.

This guy doesn't know what he's doing. took him 3 tries to get the TM30.

Anyway, My stay runs out in the end of next month. In the list of required docs needed to extend....There is a requirement to show a copy of the owners House book, and Chanot...

I have asked this agent 3 times to give me these docs...always has a smart answer...like: next week, or when he can..etc.

I asked for the owners number....no way he will give that up.

My wife says give him time....of course she doesn't believe me when I tell her I will have to leave Thailand if I can't extend...

So.....is it written in stone that I must produce these docs? Is there anyway around it?

Thanks guys.

Pissed off in BKK

MOVED to VIsa forum

Having done this extension numerous times, I have NEVER been asked for the chanote !

The wifes tabien baan (blue house book) is a standard request.

From your title Im assuming this extension is "based on being married to a Thai"

1 hour ago, JohnOFphon said:

My wife says give him time....of course she doesn't believe me when I tell her I will have to leave Thailand if I can't extend...

I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm here on a marriage visa and my wife will be the same way. Crazy thing is that many times she is right.

Yes, a signed copy of the house book and ID card of the owner is a requirement as evidence of your address.
These would have been required for the TM30.

A Thai can only be registered in one house book, so in the case of renting if the owner is registered in the book for your place of residence then just a signed copy of the house book and ID card will prevail. However if the owner is registered in a house book at a different address, then the Chanote may be requested as proof of ownership of the rented residence.

A rental contract may also be requested.

2 hours ago, JohnOFphon said:

So.....is it written in stone that I must produce these docs? Is there anyway around it?

You are in a spot.

My Thai partner has few rentals.

Two have tenants that are farang.

I ask her what does she provide (just to confirm my understanding)

She straight away said copies of her blue book and Thai ID (signed)

When I do annual extensions (CW) I provide copy of my lease and TM30.

Even if not required these docs are standard.

Aside: Warning to all. Make sure you rent from owner/agent that can provide the required docs mentioned above.

This issue comes up often.

3 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Having done this extension numerous times, I have NEVER been asked for the chanote !

The wifes tabien baan (blue house book) is a standard request.

From your title Im assuming this extension is "based on being married to a Thai"

yes

5 hours ago, JohnOFphon said:

So.....is it written in stone that I must produce these docs? Is there anyway around it

Here is thread detailed OP.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1293172-non-o-marriage-extension-report-cwattana-wed-26-april/

https://aseannow.com/topic/1379655-exact-docs-for-marriage-visa-1-year-extension-in-bangkok/

4 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

My Thai partner has few rentals.

Two have tenants that are farang.

I ask her what does she provide (just to confirm my understanding)

She straight away said copies of her blue book and Thai ID (signed)

This highlights the issue.

Your partner can only be registered in one Tabien Baan, which I assume is for the residence you both live in.
This is because the Thai authorities use the registrations in a Tabien Baan as an ongoing population census count.

Assuming she owned 3 rental properties, her name cannot appear in the Tabien Baans for those residencies.
Her ID card will assumingly have your residential address on it.

Therefore when she issues signed copies of the Tabien Baans for her rental properties, she is not named in them, subsequently her signed ID card is registered to your home address.

Typically in these cases Immigration may request a copy of the Chanote for the rented residence as proof of ownership.

The person named on the Chanote would match the ID of the person renting the property.

12 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Typically in these cases Immigration may request a copy of the Chanote for the rented residence as proof of ownership.

The person named on the Chanote would match the ID of the person renting the property.

Thanks for the clarification.

Turns out she has only one townhouse rented to farang.

That is her Blue book.

Her other 4 joints are condos and rented to Thai.

We live in a rented apartment and the office does the TM30 on the spot.

I ask for one each year at extension time.

Also provide a lease (12 months).

So for the OP, can the owner provide Chanote instead of the Tabien Baan to obtain a TM30?

3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

So for the OP, can the owner provide Chanote instead of the Tabien Baan to obtain a TM30?

The agent may have had to supply copies of the owners TB, ID card and Chanote to successfully register for filing a TM30.

That's maybe why he had 3 attempts to obtain a TM30.
It really depends in which book the owner is registered.

In the case of your partner, as she is registered in the TB for the rental to a foreigner and her ID will also state that address, then there is no issue, everything matches.

In the case where the owner is registered in a different TB than the residence he's renting, then the TB for the rented residence will have the address, but not the owners name and their ID card will have the address of where they are registered in a TB.

Supplying a TB with only the rented address and ID at a different address, an IO may request a copy of the Chanote as evidence the person named on the ID card is the owner of the address stated in the TB.

It's an archaic system designed for ongoing population census, and not ideal for Immigration purposes.
It causes issues for Thais who work and rent in a different Province than where they are registered in a family members TB.

In the case of the OP, and stated many times on this forum, when renting ensure the owner is willing to supply signed copies of their TB and ID card as well as a rental contract and Chanote if needed, otherwise look for another place to rent, so as to avoid the issue he now faces.
Immigration are sure to request some if not all of the above documents at some point in time.

I would like to jump in on this topic as I will be applying for extension on marriage too,

What is the procedure for getting a up to date marriage certificate? Kor Ror 2?. At your local Amphur?, I was married when I lived and worked in Bangkok, Don Muang Amphur to be exact, in March 2007. I still have the original certificate and the flowery certificates.

I guess wife/house book ID, Certificate, anything else?

55 minutes ago, Pasak110 said:

What is the procedure for getting a up to date marriage certificate? Kor Ror 2

https://aseannow.com/topic/708824-kor-ror-2-and-kor-ror-3/

In above thread read posts from ubonjoe

Also this thread

https://aseannow.com/topic/1316076-kor-ror-2-for-non-o-marriage-extension/

1 hour ago, Pasak110 said:

What is the procedure for getting a up to date marriage certificate? Kor Ror 2?.

Marriage certificate (flowery one) is the Kor Ror 3.
The marriage registration is the Kor Ror 2.

Wife takes nothing more than her ID card to obtain a copy of the KR2 from the local Amphoe (20 BHT).
They print a copy, then stamp, sign, and date it with the current date.