Yingluck 'will be forced to stand down'

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Yingluck 'will be forced to stand down'
The Nation

'People's power' will push premier to quit and make way for reforms: Suthep

BANGKOK: -- Suthep Thaugsuban, leader of the anti-government protest, warned yesterday that if Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra ignores the demand for her to step down, she will be forced by "people's power" to do so.

Speaking to the media at the Royal Turf Club before noon yesterday, Suthep said that with a political vacuum following her departure, a politically neutral person would be selected to become the new prime minister. And a people's council would be set up to carry out reforms, Suthep said, adding that he expected this process to take 8 to 14 months.

He told the media that after political reforms, if a party linked to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra won power again, he would accept it. But he stressed that new rules to be written as part of the reforms must ensure future elections are free and fair - with political parties really belonging to the people, and not capitalists, as at present.

Suthep and the protesters have rallied against the so-called Thaksin regime, which they blame for prevalent corruption and alleged abuse of majority rule.

Protesters leave Nang Lerng

An anti-government rally site in Bangkok's Nang Lerng area has been closed down, with organisers moving to the previous base at Democracy Monument, reportedly because there have been fewer protesters gathering there.

The Students and People's Network for Thailand's Reform (STR) members began packing up yesterday morning at Nang Lerng. They later tied long national flag banners around the Government House fence in a symbolic gesture and padlocked all gates with STR guards at the gates after finding out fresh, new police had replaced officers long stationed there.

The government's Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order said police arrested a number of men in possession of items like weapons including home-made bombs. Police are taking action against people who throw projectiles into Government House and those who cut off electricity and tapwater.


-- The Nation 2013-12-14

[cornishcarlos]

Go home now....

Contest the election in Feb..

Boring

[LomSak27]

Sutheps Dream ....

I think his moment has passed. Tossing elections and just making decisions on who rules sounded ok last week, this week some hard core yellow supporters I know were questioning how it could be implemented - They were forced to admit it seems not possible.

Ooops

[jaidam]

How can somebody "stand down". Surely kneel down would be more appropriate? Oh, and while you're down there....

[sjjmmi]

This going beyond a joke now please go home now

[Curt1591]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

[Sunisalom]

"with political parties really belonging to the people."

Which people exactly?

Not only are the protestors are against the Thaksin charade, but so are many others.

Many red-shirts, many old form 'politicians', many new politicians, students, the old, many Esan also.

Yet many of those are not in alliance, and even vehemently despise each other. So which people is he talking about?

The ones he himself perceives as the people? He's become self-delusional now, or he has been all along.

He's achieved what he initially set out to do, dissolve the house. It's high-time he now arranged for some persons with solid arrangements and planning to step in and run with what the PDRC has, or the recent events will soon be a faded memory and life will be back to normal - nothing achieved.

My perception is that anybody he personally knows stepping in defeats the whole object, and even he can't see that!

-mel.

[PaullyW]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

Western countries especially UK and US are 'lands of law'. Thailand is a 'land of men'. Very different and something most people probably take for granted.

[JRSoul]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

I could, if there was ever a government as corrupt and self-serving as this in either country.

[Siripon]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

Everyone in Thailand is currently talking about reform because of this 'clown', as you call him.

[cornishcarlos]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

Everyone in Thailand is currently talking about reform because of this 'clown', as you call him.

And they will still be talking about it in another few years from now...

What do you think this 'clown' is actually going to achieve by persisting with his time in the spotlight ?

I was behind him 100% couple weeks ago! now his has lost me and probably 1000s of others too, not that my opinion counts for anything

[jaltsc]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

They do in the USA. It's called the Tea Party. No matter what the language, their messages are just plain lame. A minority of egotistical blowhards want to rule the majority without a plan to improve the situation.

Perhaps if Suthep and his party started investing their ill gotten wealth to help improve the lives of those in the north*** he would find more support and would not have to resort to such desperate measures. However, his message is "Go home. Let us rule and don't interfere with our economic endeavors."

Of course, the other side isn't proposing any constructive plan either..

After reading about both sides of this battle, all I can say is: "A plague on both of their houses". Individuals might win, but in the end, Thailand as a whole will suffer.

***Before all of you respond to this statement. We all know this won't happen. It would mean losing face. Just some wishful, albeit unrealistic thinking here.

Edited December 14, 2013 by jaltsc

[LuckyLew]

Go home now....

Contest the election in Feb..

Boring

And what will that solve

will be deja vue all over again

Until there is a major over haul nothing will have changed

If PTP win in Feb. it will all start over again ...

Massive graft and corruption and an all out push to bring PM Thaksin back with a clean slate ..

Than what?

[Sunisalom]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

Western countries especially UK and US are 'lands of law'. Thailand is a 'land of men'. Very different and something most people probably take for granted.

Thailand is a 'land of men'.

Many would debate that statement.

-mel.

[Curt1591]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

They do in the USA. It's called the Tea Party. No matter what the language, their messages are just plain lame. A minority of egotistical blowhards want to rule the majority without a plan to improve the situation.

No matter what the language

The language, in terms of wording, does matter. There is a big difference between free speech and sedition.

It's one thing to criticize the government. It's another to call for the overthrow of a government.

[thomash]

Peoples Power?? Is that code word for "I have some very powerful people backing me who want to have even more power or absolute power over the people!!"

[ramrod711]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

True, it wouldn't be tolerated, but by now the man from afar wouldn't be a problem anymore.

[bristolgeoff]

will big brother in Dubai allow this to happen

[NongKhaiKid]

How can somebody "stand down". Surely kneel down would be more appropriate? Oh, and while you're down there....

Check out my Calvin Klein's, thought you would appreciate the designer stuff.

[cornishcarlos]

Go home now....

Contest the election in Feb..

Boring

And what will that solve

will be deja vue all over again

Until there is a major over haul nothing will have changed

If PTP win in Feb. it will all start over again ...

Massive graft and corruption and an all out push to bring PM Thaksin back with a clean slate ..

Than what?

Because this is just more pigs, of a different breed who want the trough to themselves...

That is the only change they want.

So stop all this bullsh฿t and just get back on the campaign trail with some decent policy proposals !

[Nibbles48]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

Everyone in Thailand is currently talking about reform because of this 'clown', as you call him.

And they will still be talking about it in another few years from now...

What do you think this 'clown' is actually going to achieve by persisting with his time in the spotlight ?

I was behind him 100% couple weeks ago! now his has lost me and probably 1000s of others too, not that my opinion counts for anything

You seem to forget.

There is still a good chance he will achieve his goals. Look what he has done up to now. He is winning in small bites, one step at a time. He will likely get his reform, despite the fact that you seem to totally dislike the notion of reforming Thailand into something a little less corrupt.

If he gets his reforms, Thailand will change and the Dems will have a huge boost at the ballot box. Maybe not the first time round as most of the reds will be more pissed at not getting their 500 Baht for their vote, but another term of the Thaksin controlled PTP and that will be the end of them for good. They can't even cover this rice scheme harvest, by the time they pay up, it will be almost time for an entire harvest to be paid.... They have no chance.

[Lingba]

Who the Hell is this guy to make demands such as this?

[Nibbles48]

Who the Hell is this guy to make demands such as this?

He is Suthep, leader of the anti-shin government.

His demands are valid... It's a protest don't forget.

I hope he gets what he wants. He has my full support and the support of many in Thailand including huge amounts of academics and professors. People who have a lot more understanding of this country than you or I.

[Alwyn]

It's as if they'e watched "Life of Brian"... "We're not the PLF, we're the PFL, they're b*stards the PPL, etc....

[Curt1591]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

Everyone in Thailand is currently talking about reform because of this 'clown', as you call him.

And they will still be talking about it in another few years from now...

What do you think this 'clown' is actually going to achieve by persisting with his time in the spotlight ?

I was behind him 100% couple weeks ago! now his has lost me and probably 1000s of others too, not that my opinion counts for anything

You seem to forget.

There is still a good chance he will achieve his goals. Look what he has done up to now. He is winning in small bites, one step at a time. He will likely get his reform, despite the fact that you seem to totally dislike the notion of reforming Thailand into something a little less corrupt.

If he gets his reforms, Thailand will change and the Dems will have a huge boost at the ballot box. Maybe not the first time round as most of the reds will be more pissed at not getting their 500 Baht for their vote, but another term of the Thaksin controlled PTP and that will be the end of them for good. They can't even cover this rice scheme harvest, by the time they pay up, it will be almost time for an entire harvest to be paid.... They have no chance.

And we'll all ride off under the rainbow on unicorns!

Seriously? You truly believe that 'the opposition' isn't corrupt? Seriously?

Corruption is deep set in Thailand, at all levels.

In Thai government, it was here long before Thaksin, continues now, and will continue long after he is dead and gone. And, sadly, most people are fine with it, as long as they benefit.

"Who's benefiting" is really what this is all about. It's not that any of these people want to stop corruption. It's that they want to be in control of it.

Edited December 14, 2013 by Curt1591

[choff56]

Is it just coincidental or was there brilliant insight in choosing February 2nd (Groundhog day) for the Thai political party re-election vote? "In popular culture, the phrase "Groundhog Day" has come to represent going through a phenomenon over and over until one spiritually transcends it." Wikepedia. In reference to Thailand, one can't deny that this phenomenon is political selfishness along with systemic corruption and until the majority of its citizens wake up and put a resounding sop to it, they will be forced to relive this day over and over again.

[cornishcarlos]

Imagine this clown spouting his crap in the UK or USA.

Everyone in Thailand is currently talking about reform because of this 'clown', as you call him.

And they will still be talking about it in another few years from now...

What do you think this 'clown' is actually going to achieve by persisting with his time in the spotlight ?

I was behind him 100% couple weeks ago! now his has lost me and probably 1000s of others too, not that my opinion counts for anything

You seem to forget.

There is still a good chance he will achieve his goals. Look what he has done up to now. He is winning in small bites, one step at a time. He will likely get his reform, despite the fact that you seem to totally dislike the notion of reforming Thailand into something a little less corrupt.

If he gets his reforms, Thailand will change and the Dems will have a huge boost at the ballot box. Maybe not the first time round as most of the reds will be more pissed at not getting their 500 Baht for their vote, bMut another term of the Thaksin controlled PTP and that will be the end of them for good. They can't even cover this rice scheme harvest, by the time they pay up, it will be almost time for an entire harvest to be paid.... They have no chance.

I am not forgetting anything....

I also do not 'totally dislike the notion' of reform.

Read my other posts, I was behind him but he is now getting right on my tits, just as corrupt as any of the others.

Like I said, same trough just different snouts want control

[DocN]

"...that if Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra ignores the demand for her to step down, she will be forced by "people's power" to do so."

The force is strong within this one!

[Just1Voice]

Not sure if the mods will allow this, but if so, check this out.

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2013/12/13/exclusive-suthep-is-thaksins-proxy/

[DocN]

Not sure if the mods will allow THIS, but that is, what the current situation remeinds me of: