Thais cannot learn from previous mistakes

[marko kok prong]

the other night i came home ,it was dark ,i slowly drove into the driveway in the ute[pickup],then i heard an almighty squealing ,i had ran over the small puppy my wife had recently purchased for her son,she was in the shower,he was feet up watching tv,and no one gave a care for this little puppy,luckily he was okay,today i came back to the house just on dusk,after berating them for not caring about the dog the other night,what happens,i drive into the house ,there is the puppy,who again runs under the car,i stop,again luckily he is okay,so exactly the same scenario a day later,again her son ,was watching tv,i yelled why was he not taking care of it,

"he tired" she replied," he is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorcycle", i told her,"why you not love my family" she cried,"because you are morons" i replied,they could not work out to

A;tie the dog up

b actually look after it

c stop thinking about food or mulam music

verdict;my children in Australia are more responsible,Thai people are just unable to see cause and effect,or take any responsibility for their actions or lack vis a vi the dog.

[wayned]

Believe me, it's not only Thais that can't learn from previous mistakes, I'm on my third wife! Sounds like you might have made a couple also!

[Cuban]

The puppy has a higher IQ.

[1ma]

Don't try to teach a pig to dance. They will only get confused, you will only get frustrated.

[BrooklynNY]

Partly this ignorant habit is from upbringing and not all Thais are like that. I would find it annoying and irritating too. I do not support buying puppy or kitten or any animals as house pets especially in Thailand there are already abandoned and unwanted dogs, cats live in poor conditions on streets. Your spouse is another typical example who does not care about the puppy welfare, the puppy is like a toy to her son who himself is not brought up to have self discipline because your spouse is not a good role model. There are many Thai people like that.

[Suradit69]

Wow, the Thai Bashing is reaching fevered pitch here at the hub of the chosen people as we close out one year and head into 2014.

Considering all the threads on TV about people who overstay for years and years because it slipped their "minds," or all those too dense to understand the terms & conditions of their stay in Thailand after being here for years on end, the political & economic mess the west is once again trying to remedy, the endless tales of men who are fleeced by poorly educated women ... the list is endless ... saying Thais don't learn from past mistakes is hilarious and telling.

[thaibook]

Can someone tell me whether or not there is a subjunctive tense in Thai? Without a subjunctive it may be difficult to conceive of alterative realities.

[WitawatWatawit]

Can someone tell me whether or not there is a subjunctive tense in Thai? Without a subjunctive it may be difficult to conceive of alterative realities.

As in, "If I were responsible, I'd look after the puppy."???

[NanLaew]

I want to know if the OP's wife was an internet job.

[ozyjon]

My ex once got a puppy,, looked after it for two days then took it to her mums farm, why i asked her,,"too hard" she replied.

[Hunter88]

Time to go back to the Motherland.

[Briggsy]

Think you need a change of scene, old chap. Could involve exchanging the current ready made family for a different one or maybe a bit of solitude. Are you in a position to exit stage left without too much drama? No significant investments in partner's name, I hope.

[bigtime]

the answer to this question is blindingly simple.

thais don't make mistakes.

[dennisgb45]

the answer to this question is blindingly simple.

thais don't make mistakes.

I think Bigtime is on the right track. They don't view these things as mistakes...like a puppy getting run over. They tend to view them as fate.

[tingtongteesood]

It's Buddhism, they believe that things happen because they are supposed to. If the dog dies, it was meant to happen and nothing you can do would change it so why bother to do anything... ? One of the many problems here that people try to ignore.

[Toscano]

Thai people don't make mistakes , do they !!! Making mistakes means loss of face !!!

[HUAHIN62]

So you want them to jump up and run to the drive way to prevent the puppy from being run over by you or every time the pup farts go and look whats up. If I was your wife I would tell you to go to hell. Why can't you pick up the puppy yourself and do you expect them to have the puppy on their lap for 27/7?

[ttthailand]

Wow, the Thai Bashing is reaching fevered pitch here at the hub of the chosen people as we close out one year and head into 2014.

Considering all the threads on TV about people who overstay for years and years because it slipped their "minds," or all those too dense to understand the terms & conditions of their stay in Thailand after being here for years on end, the political & economic mess the west is once again trying to remedy, the endless tales of men who are fleeced by poorly educated women ... the list is endless ... saying Thais don't learn from past mistakes is hilarious and telling.

I would normally agree that there is too much Thai bashing but in this care I totally agree with the op and others. A total lack of responsibility and very inconsiderate.... Me me me me ..... Maybe just too lazy to give a sh-t. Many tropical countries have this laid back , never mind, not my problem ... why of thinking. You can't change it so have to deal with it.

But if you ran over the puppy and killed it, no fault of your own, they would say you were no good and bad man. Your fault !!! Farang just don't understand anything

[rijb]

It's not only a Thai thing. That's why we didn't stop at World War 1...

[xylophone]

"Thais cannot learn from previous mistakes"

This is so very true, and related to this, they also have no idea of the consequences of their actions.

The simple manifestation of this is not wearing a crash helmet on a motorbike, or piling four or five people on one (also no crash helmets) or letting 12-year-olds drive motorbikes?

My ex has family in one of the small villages outside of Phitsanulok and one of the relatives has a house on the side of a small road which falls away steeply at the side, so part of it is on stilts which go down to the ground below. The family complains about constantly being bitten by mosquitoes, so when I suggested that the reason was that they were throwing water under the house in which the mosquitoes were breeding, they just smiled and kept on doing it. Likewise with the rats running around the place because they were throwing food scraps out the back of the house.

I really don't know why there is this lack of "reasoning/intelligence" because it all seems so simple.

[Deez]

So you want them to jump up and run to the drive way to prevent the puppy from being run over by you or every time the pup farts go and look whats up. If I was your wife I would tell you to go to hell. Why can't you pick up the puppy yourself and do you expect them to have the puppy on their lap for 27/7?

-1 what a dork

[connda]

Experiential learning is a cycle of trying something, determining what worked and what did not work, developing a plan to do things better, and giving it another try.

It's culturally ingrained in Thais that mistakes are 'bad'. They don't do self critques to determine 'what worked and what did not work'. If something didn't work: don't admit to it; ignore it; pretend it didn't happen -- mistakes cause loss of face. Bad, bad, bad.

[marko kok prong]

So you want them to jump up and run to the drive way to prevent the puppy from being run over by you or every time the pup farts go and look whats up. If I was your wife I would tell you to go to hell. Why can't you pick up the puppy yourself and do you expect them to have the puppy on their lap for 27/7?

no i do not expect that,just to be aware that the car is out and will come back,the dog is very small and it is hard to see over the bonnet of the pickup,all they need to do is put it inside the house,or on a leash secured to something,they know roughly what time i shall be back,once the vehicle is parked the puppy can go back out,i do not think this is too draconian,my concern here is for the puppy,personally i do not want to be scraping it's remains off the driveway.

[RigPig]

There is no Thai word for "responsible" or "consequence". And yes, it is just fate, it's meant to happen ...

[1ma]

They are people. Thai People, at that. Supreme beings.

A puppy is just an animal. It is low. Very low. A person is insulting themselves in going out of their way to take of it, and especially when no one is looking, so why would they. There are balloons that need popping on the tablet and people with down-syndrome on the TV trying to juggle to be laughed at. Take care of a lowly animal, that no one will see them doing? madness.

Edited December 30, 2013 by 1ma

[connda]

Partly this ignorant habit is from upbringing and not all Thais are like that. I would find it annoying and irritating too. I do not support buying puppy or kitten or any animals as house pets especially in Thailand there are already abandoned and unwanted dogs, cats live in poor conditions on streets. Your spouse is another typical example who does not care about the puppy welfare, the puppy is like a toy to her son who himself is not brought up to have self discipline because your spouse is not a good role model. There are many Thai people like that.

When we got our dogs, my wife was happy to let them run. However, we've had two dogs and my own cat killed on the road directly in front of our home. My wife's response was basically: "When their time is up, they're gonna die. So let them run." My response was: "We're fencing the adjacent 1/2 rai of land she owns so the dogs have plenty of room to run. I'm not burying another pet if I can keep it off the road."

So our dogs don't run free. Probably the only two 'fenced' dogs in our Amphur. And probably two of the healthiest and well cared for dogs too.

So, I didn't try to change my wife, I changed the situation by building the fence. Now the only thing I harp on is keeping the gates shut. Since I put the fence up, all our friends and family know that the dogs aren't let out unless you want to see "Luang Connda" get really pissed off in a very un-Thai manner and the anger is going to be directed at whoever let the dogs out.

So, OP...control your situation. You don't want your dog under your wheels, do something about it. Fence it, chain it, whatever; and then draw a line in the sand for your family that you're willing to stand and defend until your family agrees with you.

[Larry001]

So you want them to jump up and run to the drive way to prevent the puppy from being run over by you or every time the pup farts go and look whats up. If I was your wife I would tell you to go to hell. Why can't you pick up the puppy yourself and do you expect them to have the puppy on their lap for 27/7?

What a rdiculous response. This article has gone right over your head. Ignorance personified!!!

[connda]

There is no Thai word for "responsible" or "consequence". And yes, it is just fate, it's meant to happen ...

I'll disagree with you there.

Pets = Sat Liang where Sat means 'animal' and Liang means 'care for'. Caring for something implies responsibility (Paa-ra naa-tii).

Consequence? Pon suup nuang where Pon means 'consequence or result' and 'suup nuang' mean 'as a result of'.

And there are other ways to say each of these words. So, I'm assuming you're just being sarcastic, which as far as I'm concerned, is fine. I'm a Westerner. I like sarcasm. It goes right over the head of most Thais.

So they do know the concepts of responsibility and consequences, however, they also know that mistakes cause loss of face which is unacceptable. So they will not admit to irresponsibility nor suffer the consequences.

Edited December 30, 2013 by connda

[12DrinkMore]

Don't try to teach a pig to dance. They will only get confused, you will only get frustrated.

And don't even think about flying lessons.

Edited December 30, 2013 by 12DrinkMore

[cbluck58]

During the days of Empire, the East India Company stopped its expansion at the Afghan border, after a couple of exploratory forays, stating it would be impossible to expand further because you cannot win a fight against people who are not afraid to die.

It is not only Thais who do not learn from their past mistakes - ask all the widows and single parent families left behind by the guys who died there, sent by politicians that didn't learn from past mistakes...