Thai graft buster to discuss red-shirts’ threat

[webfact]

Graft buster to discuss red-shirts’ threat



BANGKOK: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) board will meet today to have a resolution on accusation by the caretaker prime minister that the graft buster took just a brief 21-day to investigate the rice-pledging scheme which she was involved and decided to bring charges against her. Threat by red-shirts to blockade the NAC C office on Thursday will also be discussed.

The NACC secretary-general Sansern Poljiak said the weekly meeting today was aimed at reaching a resolution in reaction to Ms Yingluck Shinawatra’s accusations which she posted on her Facebook page.

In addition, the threat by red-shirt people to rally at the NACC office to obstruct the working of the NACC board on Thursday would be discussed and worked out how to cope with their threat.

The NACC secretary-general said that the NACC has summoned Ms Yinglluck to hear the charges to be brought against her and allow her to defend herself on Thursday (February 27).

On Sunday, red-shirt people who rallied in Nakhon Ratchasima threatened to block the NACC office and also urged the caretaker to adopt disobedience to the NACC. Caretaker Interior Minister Charupong Ruangsuwan , also leader of the ruling Pheu Thai party, was also on the red-shirt rally stage.

The NACC secretary-general added that the NACC would consider whether to have a press conference after the meeting today or not, depended on the decision of the board.

Meanwhile the ruling Pheu Thai party spokesman Prompong Nopparit will also submit a petition to the NACC late today urging the graft buster to speed up the corruption case involving the Abhisit government’s in the rice price guarantee scheme.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/graft-buster-discuss-red-shirts-threat/


-- Thai PBS 2014-02-25

[keith101]

maybe it only took 21 days to find enough reason to call Yingluk to answer questions on corruption and as the caretaker prime minister she has an obligation to answer those quetions otherwise it may be seen as guilt in staying away and should step down and resign from the government and stay out .

[HD 205]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Edited February 25, 2014 by HD 205

[TVGerry]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

[HD 205]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

[CiaranO]

peaceful protests are fine according to the civil court so no problem blockading the building.

[HD 205]

peaceful protests are fine according to the civil court so no problem blockading the building.

Any protests have been fine according to any court by the looks of it so far, the similarities between this and 2006 compared to 2010 sholdn't be shocking, yet I still find myself bemused by it and how people can fall so easily into justifying and beleiving it,

Edited February 25, 2014 by HD 205

[Scamper]

This is an unprecedented lynching of the NACC, and it is happening from within the Yingluck administration itself. On Sunday, the red shirt gathering with Thida, Nuttawut, Jataporn, and the Interior Minister - joined in a jaw-dropping condemnation of the independent agencies, in essence the rule of law itself. Further discussed was a plan to boycott Thursday's meeting of the NACC which Yingluck is constitutionally required to attend, to answer charges and to answer specific questions regarding the rice scandal. Yingluck has herself decided to boycott the meeting. At Sunday's rally, Yingluck was urged to ignore the independent agencies. On Thursday, the UDD will surround the NACC to prevent the meeting from taking place. In the meantime, Yingluck has used her facebook page to stoke hatred and distrust of the NACC within the UDD. She ( at unquestionably Thaksin's suggestion ) is now deliberately setting the UDD loose on the NACC, and as the rally was attended by both the Interior Minister and the Agriculture Minister - this has the clear stamp of administrative approval. The NACC is now left to defend itself, as the police have no vested interest in doing so. The NACC is now compelled to appeal through the media for protection. The rice scandal is enough to bring down the Yingluck administration many times over. The UDD - with Yingluck's blessings - is not going to allow that investigation to continue. That's what this has come to.

[seajae]

the reds/udd are blocking and threatening the farmers and now the nacc, the investigation into the rice scheme has been ongoing for over 12 months(if anyone wants to check out the facts) and yl is the head of the rice sheme committee as such she is responsible so it is natural she has to take the blame for what it does but then the ptp/reds dont want the truth to come out anyway so this is how they hope to stop it.

They only like it when they control who is investigated and charged, not the other way around when it is them on the recieving end, ho hum

[rametindallas]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

You are correct that those against Yingluck/PTP have an agenda. The reason people have an agenda against Yingluck/PTP. It's because of Yingluck/PTP's corruption and malfeasance in running the rice industry into the ditch.

You are also correct that it is most transparent kind of corruption/malfeasance with the government telling 'white lies', conflicting explanations, keeping secret the amount of rice the government has bought, how much it has sold, and at what price.

I, too, feel nauseated almost every time I read the latest story of how uncaring for the Thai people the Yingluck/PTP government is.

Sad situation for Thai people not connected to Yingluck/PTP.

[JRSoul]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

Why do you link one situation with the other? If the rice scam was criminal, and few have any doubt, the perpetrators should pay for their crimes. That in no way means that Suthep gets what he is asking for, and it shouldn't enter the consideration.

You only link the 2 because you support these criminals even when their crimes are obvious to all. Why is that?

[pedro01]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

Its not the rice. Its all the money that disappeared.

Of course when a government blows 10s of billions of taxpayer money and cannot publicly account for it - that is a huge issue.

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[rametindallas]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

Yingluck/PTP spent 10% of the budget on the scheme, borrowed the money (with interest), gave only 30% of the total money to farmers (some of whom were wealthy already) and can't/won't account for the rest. You're damned right it is a high priority in my mind and the blanket amnesty forgiving all their current corruption doesn't raise my esteem for this lot, either. I could go on. Educate yourself, there's plenty to hate about this government.

[gemini81]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

Ah, its tourist fever, and newbie syndrome. While on fantasy island, imagine this: 1st time car & home buyer working, free of graft, flood solutions as instructed by experts, no graft behind plans of high speed bullet train, and amnesty bill attempts at 4:30 am, students getting tablets, end on the southern violence, the 'drug war' with no drugs in thailand as promised....and on it goes...

[HD 205]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

You are correct that those against Yingluck/PTP have an agenda. The reason people have an agenda against Yingluck/PTP. It's because of Yingluck/PTP's corruption and malfeasance in running the rice industry into the ditch.

You are also correct that it is most transparent kind of corruption/malfeasance with the government telling 'white lies', conflicting explanations, keeping secret the amount of rice the government has bought, how much it has sold, and at what price.

I, too, feel nauseated almost every time I read the latest story of how uncaring for the Thai people the Yingluck/PTP government is.

Sad situation for Thai people not connected to Yingluck/PTP.

Corruption!!!! That's it!

[Thait Spot]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

So where did 82% of the money go?

The big chunk that didn't make it to the farners

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[HD 205]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

Yingluck/PTP spent 10% of the budget on the scheme, borrowed the money (with interest), gave only 30% of the total money to farmers (some of whom were wealthy already) and can't/won't account for the rest. You're damned right it is a high priority in my mind and the blanket amnesty forgiving all their current corruption doesn't raise my esteem for this lot, either. I could go on. Educate yourself, there's plenty to hate about this government.

I think it all went into Thaksins pockets because he felt he wasn't rich enough already.

[HD 205]

[smedly]

it is very clearly of the utmost importance to have this dealt with ASAP before another 500 billion baht goes to Dubai and gets distributed between all the so called red leaders - is it any wonder they are trying to obstruct the court - it's all about power and money

[JRSoul]

Seems Yingluk's plans for the rest of the week don't include the NACC. As she has announced this, they can have the warrant for her arrest prepared and ready to issue.

[ramrod711]

In addition, the threat by red-shirt people to rally at the NACC office to obstruct the working of the NACC board on Thursday would be discussed and worked out how to cope with their threat.

How odd, not a single red apologist bemoaning the blockading of a public building, or calling for the arrests of the "thugs". I guess it's ok for one side.

[TVGerry]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

This thread is about the NAAC and their investigation of the corruption involved in the rice scam.

[rametindallas]

Seems Yingluk's plans for the rest of the week don't include the NACC. As she has announced this, they can have the warrant for her arrest prepared and ready to issue.

Doesn't she HAVE to resign if formally charged?

[jonclark]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

And by the same token don't you believe that if corruption has occurred those who were responsible or failed to stop it should all be held to account and punished accordingly as you or i would be if we broke the law?

Democratically elected government does not equate to - immunity to do what the hell you choose or want to with no accountability or consequence does it?

[zakk9]

A prime minister who communicates with the nation by Facebook, refuses to meet in court to answer charges against her, members from the opposition and random bystanders being shot at will without the police lifting a finger, farmers who turn against the government being harassed by the ruling party's "helping hands"... they really want the military to take over, don't you think?

[blaze]

And this is the new face of Thai politics- intimidation- illegal occupations-- so what next- the major intersections not occupied by yellows become the turf of the reds? The parks that are not squatters camps for boys from Surat become hobo villages for boys from Khon Kaen? The reds are very close to losing whatever moral high ground they have occupied for the last few months.

If we trace it back- where the precedent was set- was it the occupation of the airport? Why were lessons not learned from that? Because nobody has been imprisoned for that action? Or was that ok- and the precedent was set with the red occupation of Ratjaprasong? For which people DID go to jail-- but - maybe not enough of them. Or is it more recent- last night's intimidation of the Voice TV headquarters?

At one time, we could not imagine how a country could become Somalia-- as we didn't understand how a European country (Yugoslavia) could descend into the bloody abyss that it will pay for for generations. Where are the cool heads- man, this country needs them as never before.

Edited February 25, 2014 by blaze

[diehard60]

maybe it only took 21 days to find enough reason to call Yingluk to answer questions on corruption and as the caretaker prime minister she has an obligation to answer those quetions otherwise it may be seen as guilt in staying away and should step down and resign from the government and stay out .

Is this not the same thing as suthep is doing by not going to court??????? Or am I wrong.

[diehard60]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

And by the same token don't you believe that if corruption has occurred those who were responsible or failed to stop it should all be held to account and punished accordingly as you or i would be if we broke the law?

Democratically elected government does not equate to - immunity to do what the hell you choose or want to with no accountability or consequence does it?

What is it with the double standards John? Its ok for suthep but not ok for yingluck.

[hansnl]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Yeah and the rice scam was an honest scheme that worked and everyone got paid and no rice was stolen.

I was responding to someone, guess that's gone.

Anyway, Is rice really that high on your agenda that you would want a democratically elected government to be thrown out and replaced by a few unelected people to decide the future of the country?

Really my friend, just replay that question in your head and ask yourself if you really believe that's a just cause.

Is that the right way?

Maybe?

Is it the right way to be elected as the majority party and then only govern for people that voted for you?

Is it the right way to use the voter's mandate to become, nearly, an one issue party (Mr T back and clear)

Is it the right way not to govern for all the people?

Is it the right way to govern a country as a private company, that company of course in your clan's favour?

Really, Sir, is the above not enough to oust this "democratically elected but not democratically governing" government, and substituting this with what is called a "business cabinet" until the country is becoming less undemocratic, less a cronie favouring country, less of everything that might be called wrong by a big part of the people?

[Nickymaster]

It's all a load of balls, anyone who doesn't see it has an agenda against Yingluck/PTP.

People try to portay Thai politics as this deep "you don't understand unlesss your Thai" BS, when it's one of the most transparent politicial messes in recent times.

It would be funny if I didn't feel like puking almost everytime I read the latest story.

Sad situation.

Or....Anybody who is blinded by red propaganda would think the rice scheme is a success.

I mean, come on, THB 780,000,000,000 gone, the rice farmers have no money and they are up to their ears in debt, no figures released ever and the only thing we hear is something about secret (non-existing/fake) G2G deals.

Please do some research concerning this scheme. It is broadly covered in the international community. Loads of info available if you dare to have a look.