In love with thai girl married to thai man

[makkam]

It never ceases to amaze me how gullible some people are!

A fool and his money are soon parted

I'd seriously suggest you get a private detective to check out her previous. For $1000 Australian you'd find out all you needed.

The whole thing as described is so slickly orchestrated, only the insane would not hear massively noisy alarm bells.

You're seriously considering making her 'ex' an instant thai millionaire????

Assuming you were moronic enough to hand over the dosh do you think it would stop there?

Next would come the request for a $30k dowry even though she's probably the progeny of some alcoholic Issan rice farmer.

Then would come 'tea money' ($30k? ) to smooth the immigration process to get her out of 'Stalag Thai'

Regular money to send to her parents to support them when she comes to live with you in Oz.

Money for cars and motorbikes for family members.

You'll probably find she has one particular 'brother' who she is very 'close to' who she';ll need to visit regularly on trips home.

Sorry mate but consign her to the trash can because what you're describing/letting yourself in for is a typical thai tart scam.

[lung yohn]

Oh my dear, don't you think you are alone in such a situation! Fortunately or not, but ther are many who do not even know or are aware with whom and how many the dear Thi Rak is aligned !


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[makkam]

Give me her Skype username and you will find out in minutes how madly in love she is with you. literally

 

Most practical and best post on the thread

[makkam]

  I have to listen to every post and haven't argued with anyone except the one who started throwing insults at me.   I have said I proceed with caution and I will not be paying her husband anything many times now.

 

 Having said that (im getting ready for the backlash) but I ill be honest, I just talked with her on Skype as she is back out of house now and back at work and im going to send her 20000 baht to rent a studio/apartment.   I then help her out as I see fit with much caution and online detective work.  (puts flame suit on)   

 

A single thai woman spending 20k pm for an apartment?

So you're up for a quarter of a million baht over the year of the lease for starters???

Nearly everyone on here is telling you that you are making a huge mistake..or do you revel in the possibility of being a 24 carat victim.

There is/was a guy called stickman ( a kiwi who has lived in Thailand for over a decade, fluent thai speaker as well ) who has his own website and amongst other things has a service where he checks out the background of prospective girls/wives.

I have it on very good authority that he is

Very effective

Very brutally honest

Please do it

[F4UCorsair]

After I left home and went out into the world, one of the first lessons I learned is not to mess with married women.....if she has taken  her ring off and you discover later she is married, end the relationship immediatly.

You are lucky you are still alive.....

If she did it to him, she will do it to you........

She does not respect you because she has presented herself with baggage, if you want a clean relationship she has to clean up her act and present herself without baggage.....

She does not respect the vows of marriage.......

You do not respect her husband's marriage to her.....put yourself in his place......

You do not respect yourself.....you have involved yourself in the destruction of a marriage and family.......

She must solve her problems on her own then present herself to you ........

A good man is hard to find, make her earn you.......

 

You don't mess with a married woman??  Man....you haven't lived.  Nothing like the excitement of having an enraged husband breathing down the 'phone, or worse down your neck.  It takes two to tango,  and if she isn't interested, she won't play.  Nobody steals somebody who doesn't want to be stolen.

[phil2]

You should be aware that having an extramarital affair is endenmic here, it's usually when they are caught that they come up with stories like the marriage / relationship was already heading for the rocks.

 

I fell for that story once, and it costs me in the long run.

 

Good luck.

[Flute]

Hi, I have read your story and some comments and replies with interests.
But, be careful.
I was tree years in love with a Thai. I planned my life here with her together. We were nearly 2 year together in the reality. We were engaged in the face of Buddha, with golden ring on her finger. I bought a shop for her, spent 1,6 mill. Bath for her in three years, and after the shop went down, and she must look for another work, she was looking only for another man.
She offered me, she lied me, used me only, she has another real lover, two other men who gives her money.
I was completely shocked. Thai girl can do all, what in western society I never have heart. Here is no moral or ethic, to get money is all.
I have another girlfriend now. I have my experiences with Thai. I look for myself now. I don't want to know, with what kind of tricks the former girlfriend has suppressed money from me, hospital, broken phone, study and and and.

I have an advice for you.
I loved her also more than my life, would have given my very strong heart for her ill one, really.
I was warned by all my friends. I never believed, I could be scammed so..
But Thai can.
Maybe, maybe this with the 30.000 THB is a bad trick. You must have informations about all, before you give one Bath.
I was scammed with all my money, but I am happy about to learn to give. I am Buddhist, but----- to be scammed help only the bad people.

[Tony125]

tekNique, on 23 Apr 2014 - 09:00, said:

  I have to listen to every post and haven't argued with anyone except the one who started throwing insults at me.   I have said I proceed with caution and I will not be paying her husband anything many times now.

 

 Having said that (im getting ready for the backlash) but I ill be honest, I just talked with her on Skype as she is back out of house now and back at work and im going to send her 20000 baht to rent a studio/apartment.   I then help her out as I see fit with much caution and online detective work.  (puts flame suit on)   

Ok you asked for advice on this forum and after getting over 200 replies telling you that your being scammed you refuse to acept the advice and are going to send her money to help her, You would be better off spending some money for Stickman or some other Thai Investigaor service (Google them) to check out the story but seems like you want to beleive what you wish to believe rather than hire someone and be proven wrong. You will find out sooner or later ,seems like even at 35 you are very immature and don't have much expiriance with women especially sweet liitle Thai girls that make you think you are sooo special and treat you better than any girls you may have been with before. Most do that thats why guys come here.

[Andrew65]

So you are in love with a Thai girl that you have only spent two weeks with and she jumped into bed with you straight away? Warnings lights are flashing everywhere.

You're right there.

 

In my post/reply, I was seeing the girl for just over a month, never made it to first base. Obviously not a bar-girl, thought it was worth waiting for, turned out not to be!!

 

(It should be mentioned that this girl used to INSIST on paying for lunch in nice restaurants!!!!).

Edited April 24, 2014 by Andrew65

[Flute]

Thai girls, women have so many tricks to get your money, well educated western men with moral and ethic never can believe.
Love is the best of the world, but here it is used for bad. They can kill you with smile.
Beware yourself, but don't forget by all in spite of all bad: Life without love is like an oven without fire.

But make it warm for the right one!

[dannyshin]

  I have to listen to every post and haven't argued with anyone except the one who started throwing insults at me.   I have said I proceed with caution and I will not be paying her husband anything many times now.
 
 Having said that (im getting ready for the backlash) but I ill be honest, I just talked with her on Skype as she is back out of house now and back at work and im going to send her 20000 baht to rent a studio/apartment.   I then help her out as I see fit with much caution and online detective work.  (puts flame suit on)   

 
A single thai woman spending 20k pm for an apartment?
So you're up for a quarter of a million baht over the year of the lease for starters???
Nearly everyone on here is telling you that you are making a huge mistake..or do you revel in the possibility of being a 24 carat victim.
There is/was a guy called stickman ( a kiwi who has lived in Thailand for over a decade, fluent thai speaker as well ) who has his own website and amongst other things has a service where he checks out the background of prospective girls/wives.
I have it on very good authority that he is
Very effective
Very brutally honest
Please do it

I'm living in Thailand for more than 7 years. Nice apartment in Bangkok just 5000 baht month plus electricity and water around 2000 bahts (during peak summer). I wonder you pay 20,000 baht for renting? You have been fooled but still you don't admit.

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[thailand49]

I tell you what buddy... I do you a favor?  You obviously have made up your mind after two weeks. It is not the sex you have a connections right. Within all the advice and from your responses it drips with you thinking " you don't know her attitude "  so you know what just kick out the 30,000 and set her free so you can marry her etc etc...money should not be a issue with you any longer right!  How can you put a price on love and that connection it is your sole mate?

 

Or do this... I'll go out on a limp for you.. put 100,000 baht in my bank account... PM me pictures and where she lives along with any other information you feel is necessary and I will go to the location and get you answers and pictures positive or negative if this is on the up and up?  It would cost you much more to take care of the husband my work don't come cheap!  

 

Like I said this story is very common... on a personal note... a friend had a very similar situation.. after meeting a women in Bangkok... I couldn't believe knowing him for 40 years he would ever fall for something like this " took it one step at a time, sent her money to help her leave... in the end, I and a few others made a bet after doing all we can for him.. just a small bet between friends... after nearly loosing a million baht... a year later.. he waited at the airport for her to pick him up.  He still might be waiting?

 

 

Edited April 24, 2014 by thailand49

[metisdead]

A grammar police post has been removed as well as a reply.

[ronthai]

another, REALLY MY GIRL IS DIFFERENT, (but same same) story

[tekNique]

ok she sent me this email not long ago......................  "ex he want money for divorce , (her name withheld) know it hard for you decision , you no need for me if you wand go form me ?  understand you , (her name withheld) tired and dishearten​ed , wait only hope from you will help I love you and love forever, you go home I want chat skype with you na , miss you mak ka kiss"

 

 I said to myself the moment she asked for it my faith in her would waiver.     So I want to test her with a suggestion that was made here.............

I say to her " sure I'll give the 30k but we'll use it to hire the best lawyers in Bangkok and we'll do a contested divorce, that way your husband you no longer love will be out of pocket mak mar and you'll still achieve your freedom"           If she says it a bad idea well then I know its time to call her bluff.

 

 I will put this suggestion to her tonight on Skype, if anyone has a good way to word it please feel free to contribute.

Edited April 24, 2014 by tekNique

[ronthai]

wow, he really still does not get it

[Andrew65]

wow, he really still does not get it

I think this is a symptom of a condition known as "pussy-whipped"!

[TheRascal]

ok she sent me this email not long ago......................  "ex he want money for divorce , (her name withheld) know it hard for you decision , you no need for me if you wand go form me ?  understand you , (her name withheld) tired and dishearten​ed , wait only hope from you will help I love you and love forever, you go home I want chat skype with you na , miss you mak ka kiss"

 

 I said to myself the moment she asked for it my faith in her would waiver.     So I want to test her with a suggestion that was made here.............

I say to her " sure I'll give the 30k but we'll use it to hire the best lawyers in Bangkok and we'll do a contested divorce, that way your husband you no longer love will be out of pocket mak mar and you'll still achieve your freedom"           If she says it a bad idea well then I know its time to call her bluff.

 

 I will put this suggestion to her tonight on Skype, if anyone has a good way to word it please feel free to contribute.

 

I don't think it will work, they will probably agree to it if it's a scam and drag it on to another point where money will be needed for some reason. 

 

I've never been dicked over by a Thai girl and I'm not a cynic, however this situation looks like a scam, maybe it's not but it looks that way. Even if it's not a scam how's it going to work with you guys? No matter what she says she won't cut contact with her family and if what she's told you is true then they aren't a nice bunch and you'll have to deal with that ongoing. Plus they are in business or live close to her ex husband? You think a Thai guy is going to forget that you slept with his wife while they were still together and she left him for you making him lose massive face. 

 

The things that would make me think it's a scam and that's she's possibly not a good girl:

• You mentioned she's not educated but she speaks English. Now in an above post I disagreed with the guy who said only bar girls and international business execs speak English, however if she didn't go to uni and she works in a factory with her family then where did she learn to speak English. A lot of girls in places that are less exposed to farangs (tesco, small food stalls etc etc) speak little to no English. In her job she has no contact with westerners, no one to practise with and on Thai TV there's very little english on the standard channels. 
• The husband mails you in English. This is odd to me, even less Thai guys speak English than the girls. 

I'd suggest getting the husband on video skype to discuss it, then you will be able to see his level of English. 

 

The advice above about contacting Stickman is solid. He's a good guy, honest and straight down the line. Speaks fluent Thai and has lived here 16 years, done many investigations around the bars and would be able to sense if she was a former bargirl too. Or as the other guy had previously suggested, give me her Skype ID or facebook name and I'll chat with her and send you the transcripts. I live in Thailand, 10 minutes away from Bangna.

[TheRascal]

 

 

ok she sent me this email not long ago......................  "ex he want money for divorce , (her name withheld) know it hard for you decision , you no need for me if you wand go form me ?  understand you , (her name withheld) tired and dishearten​ed , wait only hope from you will help I love you and love forever, you go home I want chat skype with you na , miss you mak ka kiss"
 
 I said to myself the moment she asked for it my faith in her would waiver.     So I want to test her with a suggestion that was made here.............
I say to her " sure I'll give the 30k but we'll use it to hire the best lawyers in Bangkok and we'll do a contested divorce, that way your husband you no longer love will be out of pocket mak mar and you'll still achieve your freedom"           If she says it a bad idea well then I know its time to call her bluff.
 
 I will put this suggestion to her tonight on Skype, if anyone has a good way to word it please feel free to contribute.

 
I don't think it will work, they will probably agree to it if it's a scam and drag it on to another point where money will be needed for some reason. 
 
I've never been dicked over by a Thai girl and I'm not a cynic, however this situation looks like a scam, maybe it's not but it looks that way. Even if it's not a scam how's it going to work with you guys? No matter what she says she won't cut contact with her family and if what she's told you is true then they aren't a nice bunch and you'll have to deal with that ongoing. Plus they are in business or live close to her ex husband? You think a Thai guy is going to forget that you slept with his wife while they were still together and she left him for you making him lose massive face. 
 
The things that would make me think it's a scam and that's she's possibly not a good girl:

• You mentioned she's not educated but she speaks English. Now in an above post I disagreed with the guy who said only bar girls and international business execs speak English, however if she didn't go to uni and she works in a factory with her family then where did she learn to speak English. A lot of girls in places that are less exposed to farangs (tesco, small food stalls etc etc) speak little to no English. In her job she has no contact with westerners, no one to practise with and on Thai TV there's very little english on the standard channels. 
• The husband mails you in English. This is odd to me, even less Thai guys speak English than the girls. 

I'd suggest getting the husband on video skype to discuss it, then you will be able to see his level of English. 
 
The advice above about contacting Stickman is solid. He's a good guy, honest and straight down the line. Speaks fluent Thai and has lived here 16 years, done many investigations around the bars and would be able to sense if she was a former bargirl too. Or as the other guy had previously suggested, give me her Skype ID or facebook name and I'll chat with her and send you the transcripts. I live in Thailand, 10 minutes away from Bangna.

I mentioned before it is not just bar girls who scams, even educated Thai women happen to scam foreigners. I told you my ex wife was nurse

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I don't think my post said anything about it being bargirls being the only ones who scam, correct me if I'm wrong - the only mention of bargirls was that it would be possible to find out if she was one - the suggestion being there must be a reason she speaks English. 

 

I think everyone is aware that it's not just bargirls who scam money from people but it's much more common than non bargirls doing it. I know numerous people here who've been sleeping with girls while guys send money from overseas and believe their teerak is at home being a good girl - all of these girls work or worked in bars. I've a fair amount of female friends that I socialise with, eating, playing sports etc and none of them are interested in money or scamming guys. Some would date farang guys but sure as shit only presentable guys that are within a similar age range. For every story you read on here, stickman or wherever about someone getting scammed 95% of the time the girls is a bargirl. 

[Rumblecat]

 

 I said to myself the moment she asked for it my faith in her would waiver.     So I want to test her with a suggestion that was made here.............

I say to her " sure I'll give the 30k but we'll use it to hire the best lawyers in Bangkok and we'll do a contested divorce, that way your husband you no longer love will be out of pocket mak mar and you'll still achieve your freedom"           If she says it a bad idea well then I know its time to call her bluff.

 

 I will put this suggestion to her tonight on Skype, if anyone has a good way to word it please feel free to contribute.

Or you could not mention the 30k at all- just tell her you've hired good Thai lawyers ("the best!") who'll be able to get her out of the marriage without handing over any money and see how she reacts. If she's delighted then you can relax and rest easy, and know that the people who were telling you it was a scam were well-meaning but wrong. 

 

Of course then you will have hire top Thai lawyers, but at least you'll know where the money's going... :) 

[Evilbaz]

 

 

 I said to myself the moment she asked for it my faith in her would waiver.     So I want to test her with a suggestion that was made here.............

I say to her " sure I'll give the 30k but we'll use it to hire the best lawyers in Bangkok and we'll do a contested divorce, that way your husband you no longer love will be out of pocket mak mar and you'll still achieve your freedom"           If she says it a bad idea well then I know its time to call her bluff.

 

 I will put this suggestion to her tonight on Skype, if anyone has a good way to word it please feel free to contribute.

Or you could not mention the 30k at all- just tell her you've hired good Thai lawyers ("the best!") who'll be able to get her out of the marriage without handing over any money and see how she reacts. If she's delighted then you can relax and rest easy, and know that the people who were telling you it was a scam were well-meaning but wrong. 

 

Of course then you will have hire top Thai lawyers, but at least you'll know where the money's going...

 

 

And then the lawyers will recommend you pay the husband his million baht (plus their fees) and you'll be back at "minus square one" for probably the same result.

 

[Rumblecat]

Where did you get that statistic from..? 

[JohnP1752]

She will think your idea is bad for sure, As they most likely have no assets and nothing for a lawyer to settle except your bill.  

 

Let her go, her bond with her family will always be their and her ex husband and family will always be in the village as well. Its a small world.

Most likely the husband will want to have a go at you for breaking up their marriage and may even come looking for you.

[tekNique]

She will think your idea is bad for sure, As they most likely have no assets and nothing for a lawyer to settle except your bill.  

 

Let her go, her bond with her family will always be their and her ex husband and family will always be in the village as well. Its a small world.

Most likely the husband will want to have a go at you for breaking up their marriage and may even come looking for you.

 

 No village. Ive said numerous times they live in downtown bkk.    Yes she is nit naoi see dum but I like that, I don't really care for the Disney channel pseudo white looking ones :P

[Rumblecat]

http://world.time.com/2013/09/13/hangover-from-hell-hundreds-of-westerners-living-on-the-streets-of-thailand/

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Cheers for that. Although to be fair a number of those homeless seems to be due to alcoholism rather blowing all their money on bar girls. 

[arunsakda]

ok she sent me this email not long ago......................  "ex he want money for divorce , (her name withheld) know it hard for you decision , you no need for me if you wand go form me ?  understand you , (her name withheld) tired and dishearten​ed , wait only hope from you will help I love you and love forever, you go home I want chat skype with you na , miss you mak ka kiss"

 

 I said to myself the moment she asked for it my faith in her would waiver.     So I want to test her with a suggestion that was made here.............

I say to her " sure I'll give the 30k but we'll use it to hire the best lawyers in Bangkok and we'll do a contested divorce, that way your husband you no longer love will be out of pocket mak mar and you'll still achieve your freedom"           If she says it a bad idea well then I know its time to call her bluff.

 

 I will put this suggestion to her tonight on Skype, if anyone has a good way to word it please feel free to contribute.

 

This thread might still be a a wind-up but to add just in case.

 

This could not work. Especially if they think you have more money to lose. She may not actually be legally married but a scammer would easily divorce his own wife for a good payout, he could marry her again if they wanted. You get her "divorced", whatever it takes she, "stays" with you.  You can rent her a flat, buy her a house+land (in her name), another car, 10 buffaloes and 20 baht gold for all they care. The more the better. You'll be told exactly what you want to hear until you are no longer useful. Then one day you'll pay for a big party in the village, in honour of the lucky couple.  All her "relatives" will be there smiling. Before the main courses of food are served a man will come up to you and say "This is MY house, that is MY wife and YOU can go now." The classic long scam. Hope you have enough in pocket for bus fare back to BKK.

 

Meeting a younger girl in Thailand and living happily ever after is not impossible or unheard of but this thing, an internet girl, a 2 week romantic trip to Thailand (first trip right?) and a jilted "husband" asking for $30KUSD.  This is Illusion, nothing more. And although there is always a pain to every pleasure nothing wrong with that temporary illusion of encounters with up-country girls as long as you indulge in it responsibly. Come again frequently, enjoy yourself with as many as you can handle, but do not allow yourself to be emotionally and financially compromised.  If you want the real thing you are going to have to come live here for a few years and do it the hard way.

[Andrew65]

Do you want become like more than 200 westerners who are living on streets of Thailand after their gf/wives took away everything from them?

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Danny, I've lived here for 17 years and been coming here for nearly 30.

 

You could add at least one zero, maybe more to that number, for the amount of properties "upcountry", where the falang (who paid for the property) are no longer present, and haven't been for a very

 

long time.

 

I know many blokes who have been living up there for 10 or 20 years.

 

As someone else commented, 200 would be the tip of a very big iceberg!!

Edited April 24, 2014 by Andrew65

[SDM0712]

Hi

I really don't have the time to read through all the replies so apologies in advance if I'm repeating what anyone else has said.

I think rather than advice this is more of a warning. Thailand is not like Australia, the Thais can be an extremely violent race, can be. I often tell my friends visiting from the UK that at home if two guys are having a fight outside a pub or club etc, they are just trying to hurt each other. Even if they say they are trying to kill each other, they're not really. Over here that is not the case. A potential love triangle involving a Thai man, his wife and you, could end in disaster. For him to lose face by his wife leaving him for a farang is a massive insult.

My advice, walk away, run away.

SDM

[ve741]

met her at thaifriendy eh?  heheh

 

I can tell when you said.. you can check when the last time they logged in was..

[dannyshin]

Do you know most of Thai marriages to are not officially registered. So there would be no questions about divorce. Normally these women still traditionally married to Thai men, they end up with scamming Western men and leave them after taking away everything.

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