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Actually you missed a few other indications of where his denial of bias contradicts what he posts. Viz:

redshirt supporters and mad PDRC security guys and lunatic leaders.

violence of the PDRC and red supporter

The guard in the Op was over zealous in his job of defending the protestors. He should and will be punished for that and at least has the fortitude to admit what he did was wrong.

I'd be a lot more impressed in his "fortitude" and "apology" if he (or the monk as he promised) had handed himself in to the police instead of doing a runner for a month to avoid arrest warrants until he was caught. Not exactly the actions of a contrite guard - the apology? What do you expect when you're surrounded by police and confronted by the angry mother of the victim? He was hardly likely to ignore her. Sorry can sometimes be the easiest word.

On the other hand fabie, the paymaster and dozens of his cronies and leeches have raped this country and not one of them has made the slightest indication of remorse or has apologized.

Actually you missed a few other indications of where his denial of bias contradicts what he posts. Viz:

redshirt supporters and mad PDRC security guys and lunatic leaders.

violence of the PDRC and red supporter

The guard in the Op was over zealous in his job of defending the protestors. He should and will be punished for that and at least has the fortitude to admit what he did was wrong.

I'd be a lot more impressed in his "fortitude" and "apology" if he (or the monk as he promised) had handed himself in to the police instead of doing a runner for a month to avoid arrest warrants until he was caught. Not exactly the actions of a contrite guard - the apology? What do you expect when you're surrounded by police and confronted by the angry mother of the victim? He was hardly likely to ignore her. Sorry can sometimes be the easiest word.

Rather unsurprising that you're unimpressed after misrepresenting what I said. He had already apologised (for what it's worth) to the army colonel in hospital - did you miss that?

I certainly didn't say he was contrite. His admission of guilt is honest but not necessarily contrite.

Just glad those terror days of hoodlums in the city are over. They had their bravado and repeated defiant towards the authorities when in a mob. Now they are hunted down one by one and hauled to justice. Som nam na. Waiting for the arrest of the mad monk. He is the ringleader of the mob.

blah blah blah.................hoodlums................blah blah blah ...................... arrest....................blah blah....................mad monk.......................blah.................ringleader............

Gee, even the diehard red supporters must be sick and tired of hearing the same boring dish served up over and over and over.............................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will continue to hear as one by one hoodlums get arrested and breaking down, asking for forgiveness. Guess the real climax will be the crazy monk be locked behind bars and have him breaking down and ask for forgiveness to Lord Buddha.

I was suprised that the guards would mess with an army colonel in the first place- and also that the army didn't take care of one of their own...

"He has not been in hiding nor has he denied his guilt. Why did the police wait more than two months to arrest a violent felon? Why did the police allow him to return to his job as an armed guard for the PDRC until the coup? "

Good questions. Is there some collusion going on? Or some "favouritism" by the Police? Just asking.

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Actually you missed a few other indications of where his denial of bias contradicts what he posts. Viz:

redshirt supporters and mad PDRC security guys and lunatic leaders.

violence of the PDRC and red supporter

The guard in the Op was over zealous in his job of defending the protestors. He should and will be punished for that and at least has the fortitude to admit what he did was wrong.

I'd be a lot more impressed in his "fortitude" and "apology" if he (or the monk as he promised) had handed himself in to the police instead of doing a runner for a month to avoid arrest warrants until he was caught. Not exactly the actions of a contrite guard - the apology? What do you expect when you're surrounded by police and confronted by the angry mother of the victim? He was hardly likely to ignore her. Sorry can sometimes be the easiest word.

'Contrite'.... your double standards are bigger than the nose of your face.

What does your unpleasant opinion of me have to do with the thread? If you're going to bother to post discuss my post, not me.

Just glad those terror days of hoodlums in the city are over. They had their bravado and repeated defiant towards the authorities when in a mob. Now they are hunted down one by one and hauled to justice. Som nam na. Waiting for the arrest of the mad monk. He is the ringleader of the mob.

blah blah blah.................hoodlums................blah blah blah ...................... arrest....................blah blah....................mad monk.......................blah.................ringleader............

Gee, even the diehard red supporters must be sick and tired of hearing the same boring dish served up over and over and over.............................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will continue to hear as one by one hoodlums get arrested and breaking down, asking for forgiveness. Guess the real climax will be the crazy monk be locked behind bars and have him breaking down and ask for forgiveness to Lord Buddha.

Well crazy Eric, it would be nice if you made equally venomous attacks when talking about the crazy viscious thug red shirt wrongdoers, like those who murdered the kids in Trat and the one who murdered someone during his escape when the other 2 were arrested, did you ever make any comment condemining their actions etc......?

Actually you missed a few other indications of where his denial of bias contradicts what he posts. Viz:

redshirt supporters and mad PDRC security guys and lunatic leaders.

violence of the PDRC and red supporter

The guard in the Op was over zealous in his job of defending the protestors. He should and will be punished for that and at least has the fortitude to admit what he did was wrong.

I'd be a lot more impressed in his "fortitude" and "apology" if he (or the monk as he promised) had handed himself in to the police instead of doing a runner for a month to avoid arrest warrants until he was caught. Not exactly the actions of a contrite guard - the apology? What do you expect when you're surrounded by police and confronted by the angry mother of the victim? He was hardly likely to ignore her. Sorry can sometimes be the easiest word.

Rather unsurprising that you're unimpressed after misrepresenting what I said. He had already apologised (for what it's worth) to the army colonel in hospital - did you miss that?

I certainly didn't say he was contrite. His admission of guilt is honest but not necessarily contrite.

Well, you did say he had fortitude which is defined as having the courage to face pain or adversity, which makes out that he is the victim here. I take exception to that and explained my thoughts on the matter describing him as hardly being contrite. No you didn't say contrite nor did I imply that you did.

And yes I did miss where he had apologised to the army colonel in hospital as it wasn't mentioned in the Khaosod OP I read and presumed you were referring to.

Why did it take so long? Even if the army officer did not press charges, carrying and using a firearm to shoot someone, as well as giving someone a beating, should be enough to land the perpetrator in jail. So many times, I just have to scratch my head and remind myself that This is Thailand and they don't do things the way they do back home. Oh, well, at least he is off the street for now; not that there aren't many more just like him.

Guess you've never lived in Thailand. Bangkok is not Thailand. People move around. You have a lot of people who've never been five miles from home (well, not anymore, make that twenty-five miles). You have a lot of other people who move around a lot. "Hey, seen Somchai lately?" "Aw, he said he was going to Surin, or maybe it was Ranong. Wait around, maybe he'll come back." "I have an address for a person I'm trying to locate, can you tell me where it is?" "Never heard of it." Incidentally, the same thing happens in Western countries. It can take police months to locate a suspect or a witness.

The police, in this country, can arrest whomever they want to, whenever they want to. Two examples:

Police have arrested an alleged "popcorn" gunman in Surat Thani, a day after police obtained an arrest warrant against him. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Alleged-popcorn-gunman-arrested-30229583.html

Thai bomb suspect who threw grenades that injured 28 caught on video http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/this-urban-jungle/thai-bomb-suspect-who-threw-grenades-that-injured-28-caught-on-video-with-500000

In the first instance, the suspect was being hidden at a home in Surat Thani. He is not from Surat Thani. In the second instance, there was no identification of the perpetrator despite a video tape and Bt. 500,000 reward. The first instance was an attacker on the Red Shirts (no one died) and the second instance was an attacker on the anti-Yingluck government (one dead, 24 injured). The police being notoriously biased, in favor of former Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin Shinawatra, tells me that an attack on an officer, of the same military that overthrew the illegal government of Thaksin Shinawatra in 2006, was not an important case to pursue. This man was not hiding, he was a PCAD guard and he could have been arrested at the hospital or at the protest site at any time before the coup. IMO, the police would have not acted without being prodded by the NCPO. Now, my question to you is: Why are you making lame excuses for the police?

Just glad those terror days of hoodlums in the city are over. They had their bravado and repeated defiant towards the authorities when in a mob. Now they are hunted down one by one and hauled to justice. Som nam na. Waiting for the arrest of the mad monk. He is the ringleader of the mob.

blah blah blah.................hoodlums................blah blah blah ...................... arrest....................blah blah....................mad monk.......................blah.................ringleader............

Gee, even the diehard red supporters must be sick and tired of hearing the same boring dish served up over and over and over.............................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will continue to hear as one by one hoodlums get arrested and breaking down, asking for forgiveness. Guess the real climax will be the crazy monk be locked behind bars and have him breaking down and ask for forgiveness to Lord Buddha.

Well crazy Eric, it would be nice if you made equally venomous attacks when talking about the crazy viscious thug red shirt wrongdoers, like those who murdered the kids in Trat and the one who murdered someone during his escape when the other 2 were arrested, did you ever make any comment condemining their actions etc......?

Now I understand why you call yourself "ting tong". Do ask any of your Chinese friends if you have any.

blah blah blah.................hoodlums................blah blah blah ...................... arrest....................blah blah....................mad monk.......................blah.................ringleader............

Gee, even the diehard red supporters must be sick and tired of hearing the same boring dish served up over and over and over.............................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will continue to hear as one by one hoodlums get arrested and breaking down, asking for forgiveness. Guess the real climax will be the crazy monk be locked behind bars and have him breaking down and ask for forgiveness to Lord Buddha.

Well crazy Eric, it would be nice if you made equally venomous attacks when talking about the crazy viscious thug red shirt wrongdoers, like those who murdered the kids in Trat and the one who murdered someone during his escape when the other 2 were arrested, did you ever make any comment condemining their actions etc......?

Now I understand why you call yourself "ting tong". Do ask any of your Chinese friends if you have any.

Why would my Chinese friends know whether you condoned or condemned the actions of murderers or not ? Why don't you stop deflecting and answer the question. Crazy Eric are you saying that you condone the actions of the red shirt murderers then ? You are clearly the crazy one if that is the case...

I was suprised that the guards would mess with an army colonel in the first place- and also that the army didn't take care of one of their own...

It seems the good army colonel was not in uniform and the beating stopped when his military ID was found in his car. The army is just now forcing the police to take action.

Love the way they just try to say sorry and think it will all go away.

Love the way you make up imagined things.

There's absolutely nothing whatsoever in the article that indicates what you say.

Actually there is if you read the article.

"The suspect apologised in person to the mother of Col. Witthawat, who was also present at the press conference"

But where does it suggest that apologising, which was only the right & proper thing to do, was somehow going to make the charges "all go away" ?

I'm glad the guard has been detained, now let his case go forward, No Double Standards !

And I look forward to the people who murdered or injured anti-government protesters, over the several months, also be identified & caught & charged.

At some point, in the fullness of time, at the appropriate juncture, after due investigation & consideration, etcetera.

Chooka doesn't say it will make the charges go away. There isn't anything to say he thought it would make any difference at all but I think Chooka is making a general comment about this practice. Whether he's right about the motive I don't know but I would be surprised if they didn't think it might help them.

This is the first time I hear the victim was dragged to an empty building. Previously we had

"Ms. Bang-onrat claimed that Col. Witthawat heard several gunshots and realised that he was shot in his legs, so he attempted to run and seek shelter near the Royal Thai Armed Force Headquarters, where he works, but the PCAD militants eventually caught up with him and mob-beat him until they discovered a military ID card on his car."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/723567-mother-denounces-pcad-guards-brutal-assault-on-her-son/

or from the brother

"Col. Witthawat reportedly got out of his car and began to remove the traffic cones. A group of PCAD guards then opened fire on the officer and rushed forward to beat him violently, despite Col. Witthawat's pleas for mercy, said Pol.Col. Thanawat.

Pol.Col. Thanawat claimed that the guards only stopped assaulting Col. Witthawat after they found his military ID card while searching his car."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/721864-mysterious-army-leaflets-denounce-pcad-guards-thuggery/

Whatever happened this thug (yes I support the anti government and the coup) had no rights to do this and its good he is arrested.

I agree with that.

The only reason I wrote what I wrote is that the prosecutor has the duty to make clear without doubt that the accused did what he allegedly did and the defense council has the task to shed doubts on what can be alleged.

When within two months we get rather different stories that certainly doesn't help. The charged guard might still get sentenced to some jail time, but the more stories start to differ the less he'll get.

IMHO.

This is the first time I hear the victim was dragged to an empty building. Previously we had

"Ms. Bang-onrat claimed that Col. Witthawat heard several gunshots and realised that he was shot in his legs, so he attempted to run and seek shelter near the Royal Thai Armed Force Headquarters, where he works, but the PCAD militants eventually caught up with him and mob-beat him until they discovered a military ID card on his car."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/723567-mother-denounces-pcad-guards-brutal-assault-on-her-son/

or from the brother

"Col. Witthawat reportedly got out of his car and began to remove the traffic cones. A group of PCAD guards then opened fire on the officer and rushed forward to beat him violently, despite Col. Witthawat's pleas for mercy, said Pol.Col. Thanawat.

Pol.Col. Thanawat claimed that the guards only stopped assaulting Col. Witthawat after they found his military ID card while searching his car."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/721864-mysterious-army-leaflets-denounce-pcad-guards-thuggery/

Come on rubl. This is the first time you heard about being dragged to an empty building? I can't imagine why you would post such a comment unless you wanted to cast doubt on the reporting, or more likely, the statement made by the mother.

Ignoring that subtle attempt of distraction let's have a look at your first link;

"so he attempted to run and seek shelter near the Royal Thai Armed Force Headquarters, where he works"

OK, so he's near shelter, which happens to be the RTAF HQ. What do you think the chances of there being an empty building near the RTAF HQ where he was dragged into by the PCAD thugs when they caught up with him and then proceeded to beat him up? Feasible, yes?

"A group of PCAD guards then opened fire on the officer and rushed forward to beat him violently"

these thugs rush forward (towards the "shelter" that the Colonel was running to) and beat him up - no mention of being dragged into a building but that description is provided by the brother of the attacked colonel and he was not there at the time. This is his recollection of the events presumably told to him by the victim. It was the first reporting of the incident and by a third party , not the person who was there so quite conceivably is not an absolute verbatim account.

"Pol.Col. Thanawat claimed that the guards only stopped assaulting Col. Witthawat after they found his military ID card while searching his car."

Again, the events as stated by a third party, but I have no problem with accepting that a bunch of PCAD thugs were beating up the Colonel whilst others searched his car and found his ID. I don't see any contradiction between the English translation of the event in two different articles, the accounts of which no doubt were conducted entirely in Thai.

Once again I wonder about your motives for posting your "doubts" about this article.

My dear fabs, I don't post doubts, I post statements made before by the victims brother and by his mother.

I'm sure the council for the defense will use these different stories told freely by relatives of the victim to shed doubt on what actually happened. There were also statements that the colonel may have behaved as intoxicated.

I'm not trying to get the accused guard off, neither the others who helped him, but seem to have left the picture somehow, no I'm just trying to explain that when the mother of the victim comes with two different stories within the span of two months, the court may justly decide to ignore her statements or even allow the defence to use it to shed doubt on actual happenings.

Personally I think this accused assuming he's the correct accused should be punished as defined by law.

Now as for accusations of distractions, did you really post in this topic "What does your unpleasant opinion of me have to do with the thread? If you're going to bother to post discuss my post, not me" ? Double standards? 'do as I say, not as I do' ?

...................."Now as for accusations of distractions, did you really post in this topic "What does your unpleasant opinion of me have to do with the thread? If you're going to bother to post discuss my post, not me" ? Double standards? 'do as I say, not as I do' ?"..................................

Touche !

Thanks rubl, for putting into words what I have been thinking for ages, that someone is a hypocritical bigot.

Just glad those terror days of hoodlums in the city are over. They had their bravado and repeated defiant towards the authorities when in a mob. Now they are hunted down one by one and hauled to justice. Som nam na. Waiting for the arrest of the mad monk. He is the ringleader of the mob.

blah blah blah.................hoodlums................blah blah blah ...................... arrest....................blah blah....................mad monk.......................blah.................ringleader............

Gee, even the diehard red supporters must be sick and tired of hearing the same boring dish served up over and over and over.............................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will continue to hear as one by one hoodlums get arrested and breaking down, asking for forgiveness. Guess the real climax will be the crazy monk be locked behind bars and have him breaking down and ask for forgiveness to Lord Buddha.

A real climax would be for Thaksin to return, apologies for jumping bail, face up to his jail time and fight the 15 other serious charges awaiting.

I doubt he would ever ask for forgiveness as he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong and is omnipotent.

Just glad those terror days of hoodlums in the city are over. They had their bravado and repeated defiant towards the authorities when in a mob. Now they are hunted down one by one and hauled to justice. Som nam na. Waiting for the arrest of the mad monk. He is the ringleader of the mob.

blah blah blah.................hoodlums................blah blah blah ...................... arrest....................blah blah....................mad monk.......................blah.................ringleader............

Gee, even the diehard red supporters must be sick and tired of hearing the same boring dish served up over and over and over.............................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will continue to hear as one by one hoodlums get arrested and breaking down, asking for forgiveness. Guess the real climax will be the crazy monk be locked behind bars and have him breaking down and ask for forgiveness to Lord Buddha.

A real climax would be for Thaksin to return, apologies for jumping bail, face up to his jail time and fight the 15 other serious charges awaiting.

I doubt he would ever ask for forgiveness as he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong and is omnipotent.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

Fact is that this topic is not on the possibility of Thaksin coming like a good boy, but about a PCAD guard accused, charged and with a trial to begin one of these days. Only hope the description of what really happened that night will be finalised otherwise the accused may get off.

PS a bit of topic, butsince you raised the issue, is there a statute of limitation applicable to sentences? I thought it only applied to cases for which the accused cannot be charged because he's not 'available' to be charged?

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

Fact is that this topic is not on the possibility of Thaksin coming like a good boy, but about a PCAD guard accused, charged and with a trial to begin one of these days. Only hope the description of what really happened that night will be finalised otherwise the accused may get off.

PS a bit of topic, butsince you raised the issue, is there a statute of limitation applicable to sentences? I thought it only applied to cases for which the accused cannot be charged because he's not 'available' to be charged?

Just a question, rubl, while you're in your psuedo mod mode, why didn't you explain the subject of the topic to baerboxer who was the originator of the "off topic" comment about Thaksin?

Notice how crazy Eric completely ignored my post as he doesn't want to answer the question, I think we can all guess the answer. He truly is crazy.......

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

Fact is that this topic is not on the possibility of Thaksin coming like a good boy, but about a PCAD guard accused, charged and with a trial to begin one of these days. Only hope the description of what really happened that night will be finalised otherwise the accused may get off.

PS a bit of topic, butsince you raised the issue, is there a statute of limitation applicable to sentences? I thought it only applied to cases for which the accused cannot be charged because he's not 'available' to be charged?

Just a question, rubl, while you're in your psuedo mod mode, why didn't you explain the subject of the topic to baerboxer who was the originator of the "off topic" comment about Thaksin?

For one I'm not a mod, not even a pseudo mod. Furthermore, I logged in and only started reading when BB had made his reply and EL already replied on that. Do you think I should have made two separate replies?

BTW since you're so curious, do you perhaps know if the 'statute on limitations' applies on sentences which can't be executed because the sentenced has jumped bail and seems a bit afraid to return without a full and blanket amnesty?

Ps just checking. After I explained that your "Once again I wonder about your motives for posting your "doubts" about this article." was completely off the mark as I was only worried that too many different stories might effect the court case and outcome, I didn't hear much. No one here seems able to give a clear, definite description of what really happened. Unfortunately that might mean that the accused may get of very lightly and not because he's HiSo.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

The statute of limitations expires on the land case in 2017. He has to wait another 5 years for the statute of limitations to expire on his other outstanding cases.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/10/22/politics/politics_30086584.php

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

The statute of limitations expires on the land case in 2017. He has to wait another 5 years for the statute of limitations to expire on his other outstanding cases.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/10/22/politics/politics_30086584.php

Unless the law changes.

But reading the link, short of a royal pardon, Mr. T. ain't coming back anytime soon, coup or no coup.

blah blah blah.................hoodlums................blah blah blah ...................... arrest....................blah blah....................mad monk.......................blah.................ringleader............

Gee, even the diehard red supporters must be sick and tired of hearing the same boring dish served up over and over and over.............................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You will continue to hear as one by one hoodlums get arrested and breaking down, asking for forgiveness. Guess the real climax will be the crazy monk be locked behind bars and have him breaking down and ask for forgiveness to Lord Buddha.

A real climax would be for Thaksin to return, apologies for jumping bail, face up to his jail time and fight the 15 other serious charges awaiting.

I doubt he would ever ask for forgiveness as he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong and is omnipotent.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

You may have a point. In the surreal soap opera that masquerades as real life in the LOS no one in the social elite ever really does time, looses assets no matter how they were acquired or ever demonstrated the slightest true remorse. That is for minions not the grandees.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

The statute of limitations expires on the land case in 2017. He has to wait another 5 years for the statute of limitations to expire on his other outstanding cases.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/10/22/politics/politics_30086584.php

Unless the law changes.

But reading the link, short of a royal pardon, Mr. T. ain't coming back anytime soon, coup or no coup.

Interesting. Thank you for the link WB. I think you are right Morch. This demonstrates the importance of the amnesty bill to Thaksin and the Shins. Without it, he's stuffed.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

Fact is that this topic is not on the possibility of Thaksin coming like a good boy, but about a PCAD guard accused, charged and with a trial to begin one of these days. Only hope the description of what really happened that night will be finalised otherwise the accused may get off.

PS a bit of topic, butsince you raised the issue, is there a statute of limitation applicable to sentences? I thought it only applied to cases for which the accused cannot be charged because he's not 'available' to be charged?

Just a question, rubl, while you're in your psuedo mod mode, why didn't you explain the subject of the topic to baerboxer who was the originator of the "off topic" comment about Thaksin?

Perhaps you should explain to EL (who went a tad off topic too) your new rules Fabricator. After all, you are a master of diversion and deflection as can be seen form some of your prolific contributions to many threads. The idea that rules can be applied to others whilst those with the "right" views can break them seems somewhat familiar ........................ ah yes PTP.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

The statute of limitations expires on the land case in 2017. He has to wait another 5 years for the statute of limitations to expire on his other outstanding cases.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/10/22/politics/politics_30086584.php

Unless the law changes.

But reading the link, short of a royal pardon, Mr. T. ain't coming back anytime soon, coup or no coup.

Interesting. Thank you for the link WB. I think you are right Morch. This demonstrates the importance of the amnesty bill to Thaksin and the Shins. Without it, he's stuffed.

Not beyond the realm of possibility that Taksin will return in 2017 with the intention of fighting the 5 cases. You know better that the arrest warrants really mean nothing in Thailand. Just how many politicians are charged and have arrest warrants, out on bail and walking free. Taksin complete silence since the coup may have some significance to his return.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

Fact is that this topic is not on the possibility of Thaksin coming like a good boy, but about a PCAD guard accused, charged and with a trial to begin one of these days. Only hope the description of what really happened that night will be finalised otherwise the accused may get off.

PS a bit of topic, butsince you raised the issue, is there a statute of limitation applicable to sentences? I thought it only applied to cases for which the accused cannot be charged because he's not 'available' to be charged?

Just a question, rubl, while you're in your psuedo mod mode, why didn't you explain the subject of the topic to baerboxer who was the originator of the "off topic" comment about Thaksin?

Perhaps you should explain to EL (who went a tad off topic too) your new rules Fabricator. After all, you are a master of diversion and deflection as can be seen form some of your prolific contributions to many threads. The idea that rules can be applied to others whilst those with the "right" views can break them seems somewhat familiar ........................ ah yes PTP.

Opps, I did it again and went off topic. It's Sunday. Let's have a day of rest and free from political innuendo.

Fact is that it will be a anti climax as Taksin will return after the statute of limitation expire in 2017, so no jail time. He may apologize to his supporters for not being there when most needed or even to Thais to win some browny points but not sure he will be sincere. He will answer to all the charges like any citizens and expect a long judiciary process same as other political figures who have laundry list of charges but expect nothing to stick just like all wealthy and powerful personalities in Thailand. Real anti climax.

The statute of limitations expires on the land case in 2017. He has to wait another 5 years for the statute of limitations to expire on his other outstanding cases.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/10/22/politics/politics_30086584.php

Unless the law changes.

But reading the link, short of a royal pardon, Mr. T. ain't coming back anytime soon, coup or no coup.

Interesting. Thank you for the link WB. I think you are right Morch. This demonstrates the importance of the amnesty bill to Thaksin and the Shins. Without it, he's stuffed.

My Dad likes to tells his students that an appeal on a test grade can be a two way street.

Wasn't thinking of the Amnesty Bill, to be honest - more about playing with things pertaining to statute of limitations expiry.

Either shortening or prolonging it shouldn't be that hard, legally. Can easily enough be masked a regular sort of change.