British backpacker arrested for suspected murder of fellow Britons at Koh Tao

[lingyai]

The story seems to be changing yet again.

The BBC is now reporting 2 British brothers are being "escorted" in Bangkok as "possible suspects".

It seems to be a pattern of announcements by the police all leading away from any suggestion that the killer is a Koh Tao resident. Whether it be Burmese migrants, or "a Thai couldn't have committed the crime" or psycho bloodstained backpackers, all statements are placing zero suspicion on people from Koh Tao.

Yet a Koh Tao native would be the most likely to commit such a crime, a sense of impunity, easily offended on home turf, access to a hoe, ability to hide behind and get the support of relatives.

This one ain't gonna be solved.

It is only been two days it is not surprising the murders haven't been completely solved.

If you look at first reports for many murder stories in western countries details and suspects change a lot over the first frenzied couple days.

[mango66]

hope now all brits which blamed before Prim Gen. Prayouth

to get ready their apologices !

maybee the police were genious to lead the mass to the wrong inmates,

and the killers were beleaved to be in safe;

And in meantime to search for evidence sucessfully;

or could it be, it was A Ch and Mr Holmes ?

Who had a real reason to kill them ?

[AnotherOneAmerican]

I think it's something like 90% of people murdered knew the killer beforehand. That could be anything from a family member to someone they had a few drinks with before hand.

Statistic from a civilized country.

Once you are out in the wild world (Somalia?) any drug lord, chancer, or armed gang of cut-throats will have a go.

(I'm not including Thailand in the civilized world by the way)

[draftvader]

hope now all brits which blamed before Prim Gen. Prayouth

to get ready their apologices !

maybee the police were genious to lead the mass to the wrong inmates,

and the killers were beleaved to be in safe;

And in meantime to search for evidence sucessfully;

or could it be, it was A Ch and Mr Holmes ?

Who had a real reason to kill them ?

I think the criticism of Prayuth comes about due to his ill-advised comments about the the behaviour of the deceased rather than who-dun-it!

[BigBadGeordie]

I have now read 23 pages of posts, with all this information, he is my synopsis of the facts.

2 people, a man and a woman, both British have been murdered.

End of post.

[alanrchase]

Is "Speed" not meth? Dont keep up with it all. Ice I believe is a bit different. However none of it turns out to be fun in the end.

Cleaned up the quotes there. Meth is effectively "purified" speed. Speed is to Meth what Cocaine is to Crack. Speed is, as I know from personal experience, mildly addictive. Meth, on the other hand, is massively addictive.

Some drugs do turn out to be fun. It is very much like alcohol. Lao Kao being necked vs a fine single malt savoured over the course of time.

Not too sure I would agree that some drugs turn out to be fun, alcohol included. Very much depends on the individual consuming them. Each to their own.

[Franky Bear]

I think it's something like 90% of people murdered knew the killer beforehand. That could be anything from a family member to someone they had a few drinks with before hand.

Statistic from a civilized country.

Once you are out in the wild world (Somalia?) any drug lord, chancer, or armed gang of cut-throats will have a go.

(I'm not including Thailand in the civilized world by the way)

Of course, i do think the statistic would be much the same in Thailand though. Do we really have a lot of serial killers on the go here?

[DrTuner]

What a mess - 3 stories in 12 hours, each accusing someone different. Are there any adults in charge here?

Thais have not yet mastered the art of redirecting questions to a single spokesperson and shutting up. All of the police is the same, immigration included.

[alanrchase]

I think it's something like 90% of people murdered knew the killer beforehand. That could be anything from a family member to someone they had a few drinks with before hand.

Statistic from a civilized country.

Once you are out in the wild world (Somalia?) any drug lord, chancer, or armed gang of cut-throats will have a go.

(I'm not including Thailand in the civilized world by the way)

Bold statement. Why?

[Franky Bear]

Is "Speed" not meth? Dont keep up with it all. Ice I believe is a bit different. However none of it turns out to be fun in the end.

Cleaned up the quotes there. Meth is effectively "purified" speed. Speed is to Meth what Cocaine is to Crack. Speed is, as I know from personal experience, mildly addictive. Meth, on the other hand, is massively addictive.

Some drugs do turn out to be fun. It is very much like alcohol. Lao Kao being necked vs a fine single malt savoured over the course of time.

Not too sure I would agree that some drugs turn out to be fun, alcohol included. Very much depends on the individual consuming them. Each to their own.

It's not the right post for this kind of chat but i agree with Draftvader

[RayHaas]

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Just found a better picture

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2758358/Shirtless-prime-suspect-caught-CCTV-near-Thai-beach-party-two-British-tourists-bludgeoned-death-island.html

Dailymail doesn't load, where I am sitting. mmmmm.

You are so lucky. If you seriously wish to view the Dailymail there is an app which is not blocked.

Looks like he had a haircut

[pizzachang]

This seems a much more likely scenario.....Guess the UK "travel advisory" may have to include a warning about associating with British backpackers!

[razer]

It doesn't matter what nationality a murderer is. As long as the real criminal is caught by good police work it doesn't matter. What matters is when an innocent person is accused of a crime and the real criminal is free and will probably do the same crime again .... because he got away with it.

[moe666]

I am very surprised that the CSI crowd at Thaivisa hasn't solved this murder.

[Dah fahrang]

Good to hear the Burmese were cleared. For quick closure I hope the evidence ends with the backpacker. Less damage to Thailand's identity for visitors. At least every inch of a break that Thailand gets now is a good break.

Sure......if that break is fairly gained, by legitimate, legal open and transparent means.

[Fat Haggis]

In an earlier post from Bean, I'm pretty sure he stated that the guy "assisting" went to Bangkok to meet his brother, if his brother was flying in to Swampy and wasn't already in country , then being at the airport to meet someone isn't neccessary an intent to flee?

If both were in possesion of flight tickets for immediate departures then it would look "suspicious" all it takes is for the airlines to confirm whether they were both fleeing, or indeed one was arriving and one was waiting to meet him..

That's basic Investigation stuff!!

[NickyBurma]

This blonde hair if it's a single strand of hair then it could be anybody and why i say this because what do people normally do when at the beach lay in the sand if its a handful then yeah sure could be possible of the murderer / murderers.

Edited September 17, 2014 by NickyBurma

[alanrchase]

In an earlier post from Bean, I'm pretty sure he stated that the guy "assisting" went to Bangkok to meet his brother, if his brother was flying in to Swampy and wasn't already in country , then being at the airport to meet someone isn't neccessary an intent to flee?

If both were in possesion of flight tickets for immediate departures then it would look "suspicious" all it takes is for the airlines to confirm whether they were both fleeing, or indeed one was arriving and one was waiting to meet him..

That's basic Investigation stuff!!

Am sure Thai police will check all of that. Most on here keep jumping the gun.

[Danielson2702]

I've seen the actual, uncensored, crime scene photos. The male had been stripped of clothes and the back of his head had at least three very bad, deep, wide fractures. The female was lying spread eagled and her face was severely stoved in. It seems to me that they were having sex at the time of the assault. The ineptitude of the Thai police in securing the crime scene for even the slightest shred of evidence is shocking. The crime scene was completely contaminated.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

I think it's something like 90% of people murdered knew the killer beforehand. That could be anything from a family member to someone they had a few drinks with before hand.

Statistic from a civilized country.

Once you are out in the wild world (Somalia?) any drug lord, chancer, or armed gang of cut-throats will have a go.

(I'm not including Thailand in the civilized world by the way)

Bold statement. Why?

Elementary my dear Watson,

Death rate of Britons in Thailand = 10x Death rate of Britons in Spain = Thailand a dangerous place for Britons.

[monk213]

Casting around (Facebook) IF it's the same guy, it may be that drugs, specifically DMT were involved.

Please explain your thinking here. If you know anything about DMT, it doesn't cause rage.

DMT hahahaha oh boy. First please fine me some DMT in Thailand because I would love to find a source of it, secondly nope you know very little / nothing about DMT. You Can barely move when using DMT and it lasts only 15 minutes or so, it is not an addictive drug, a party drug or a drug that induces rage.

[totallyobnoxiousme]

No way in a million years will it be this British guy. All these armchair detectives are just mere theorists and the true culprit will not be a westerner. No way would someone come on holiday, bludgeon to death to fellow Brits, rape 2 different genders stick the evidence in his suitcase and head on out.

Its all BS and soon we'll see it is.

Nobody wants to point the finger at the real culprits yet until they get more pressure from say' UK or whoever once its seen to be clearly being swept under the carpet ...

[alanrchase]

I've seen the actual, uncensored, crime scene photos. The male had been stripped of clothes and the back of his head had at least three very bad, deep, wide fractures. The female was lying spread eagled and her face was severely stoved in. It seems to me that they were having sex at the time of the assault. The ineptitude of the Thai police in securing the crime scene for even the slightest shred of evidence is shocking. The crime scene was completely contaminated.

How can you tell that from the pictures you saw? Were they taken before or after forensic examination?

[motorsaimang]

Surely he couldn't be dumb enough to carry blood (from a murder) stained clothes that far

[phantomfiddler]

All very simple, Watson, if the bloodstains found on the suspect,s clothes found in his luggage match either of the victims, and if his DNA matches with that found in the discarded condom, then there is an extremely strong chance that he is guilty. One strange thing though, who would go to the trouble of using a condom under these circumstances, and then discard it nearby ?

[jomcondo]

I'm going to bet there is a lot of smoke & mirrors going on with arresting Burmese & British citizens.

[Jinjo14]

plus the girl had blonde hair in her hands,

The arrested farang suspect doesn't have blonde hair (and the suspected Burmese workers probably don't either).

The murdered girl does however have blonde hair.

All the stuff about blonde hair in her hand is probably a translation error as it says see thong which is golden hair. Thais often refer this colour to any lighter than brown,

anyway if dna matches it is his if it doesn't it's not so we just have to wait.

Exactly.

See thong - dirty blonde/light brown/straw

See lieung - yellow/blonde

[alanrchase]

I think it's something like 90% of people murdered knew the killer beforehand. That could be anything from a family member to someone they had a few drinks with before hand.

Statistic from a civilized country.

Once you are out in the wild world (Somalia?) any drug lord, chancer, or armed gang of cut-throats will have a go.

(I'm not including Thailand in the civilized world by the way)

Bold statement. Why?

Elementary my dear Watson,

Death rate of Britons in Thailand = 10x Death rate of Britons in Spain = Thailand a dangerous place for Britons.

Ta. Would Holmes base conclusions on dubious statistics?

[Chicog]

When they run out of suspects I'm waiting for Policeman Plod to start banding around a murder suicide theory.

I'd put nothing past these buffoons.

[Franky Bear]

I think it's something like 90% of people murdered knew the killer beforehand. That could be anything from a family member to someone they had a few drinks with before hand.

Statistic from a civilized country.

Once you are out in the wild world (Somalia?) any drug lord, chancer, or armed gang of cut-throats will have a go.

(I'm not including Thailand in the civilized world by the way)

Bold statement. Why?

Elementary my dear Watson,

Death rate of Britons in Thailand = 10x Death rate of Britons in Spain = Thailand a dangerous place for Britons.

How does the murder rate compare though?