Koh Tao murders: Police chief reconfirms Myanmar migrant workers are real suspects

[Lex Talionis]

And now there's this:

Tourist murder suspects confess to human rights commissioner

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/tourist-murder-suspects-confess-human-rights-commissioner/

"A human rights commissioner said today (Tuesday) the two Myanmar migrant workers arrested on charges of murdering the two British backpackers on Koh Tao admitted to him that they committed the crime as charged."

Interesting. (As many of the conspiracy junkies would say.)

[MJP]

All the Thais need to do is let the British conduct their own forensic tests to confirm Thai evidence. That will put this to bed. Thai police would be wise to request this now to make us all look very silly. No need to threaten people with criminal charges for questioning them. Just get the Brits to corroborate RTP findings to rap this up.

Until such a time very few will consider this case closed and the damage to Thailand's image, face, World standing and of course tourist income will continue. In fact, right now it looks like it's going to get a lot worse. A lot worse.

[MikeENZ]

Koh Tao Murders: Accused recant confessions, tell embassy lawyer they were tortured

By Coconuts Bangkok October 7, 2014 / 22:29 ICT

Two migrant workers from Myanmar recanted their confessions today, telling a lawyer from the Burmese embassy they did not kill David Miller and Hannah Witheridge last month on Koh Tao.

Attorney Aung Myo Thant from the Burmese Embassy made his comments after meeting with the two men, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, who Thai police said had confessed to the crime.

In Burmese media reports, the lawyer said the two men told him they only confessed because they were forced to under torture.

"They told me that they were on the beach that night drinking and singing songs,” he said. “They said they didn't do it, that the Thai police (along with their Burmese-Thai translator) beat them until they confessed to something they didn't do. They're pleading with the Burmese government to look into the case and find out the truth. They were a really pitiful sight. Their bodies had all sorts of bruises. I have already reported all that I have seen today to my government."

Aung Myo Thant characterized it as a “set up” that wasn’t based on evidence.

He added that he was denied access to a third suspect originally detained, Maung Maung, because police said he is “a crucial witness” they do not want interference with.

Meanwhile Thai police authorities today said they’d met with Myanmar representatives who were “satisfied” with the results of their investigation.

UPDATED: Story was updated to reflect full names of suspects as reported by Burmese media.

Source: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2014/10/07/koh-tao-murders-accused-men-recant-confessions-tell-embassy-lawyer-they-were-tortured

[submerged]

Who knows if Maung Maung is still alive :-(

[submerged]

Who knows if Maung Maung is still alive :-(

[MJP]

The Change.org petition now has over 44,000 signatories.

That's a lot.

https://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller?recruite

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

Koh Tao Murders: Accused recant confessions, tell embassy lawyer they were tortured

By Coconuts Bangkok October 7, 2014 / 22:29 ICT

Two migrant workers from Myanmar recanted their confessions today, telling a lawyer from the Burmese embassy they did not kill David Miller and Hannah Witheridge last month on Koh Tao.

Attorney Aung Myo Thant from the Burmese Embassy made his comments after meeting with the two men, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, who Thai police said had confessed to the crime.

In Burmese media reports, the lawyer said the two men told him they only confessed because they were forced to under torture.

"They told me that they were on the beach that night drinking and singing songs,” he said. “They said they didn't do it, that the Thai police (along with their Burmese-Thai translator) beat them until they confessed to something they didn't do. They're pleading with the Burmese government to look into the case and find out the truth. They were a really pitiful sight. Their bodies had all sorts of bruises. I have already reported all that I have seen today to my government."

Aung Myo Thant characterized it as a “set up” that wasn’t based on evidence.

He added that he was denied access to a third suspect originally detained, Maung Maung, because police said he is “a crucial witness” they do not want interference with.

Meanwhile Thai police authorities today said they’d met with Myanmar representatives who were “satisfied” with the results of their investigation.

UPDATED: Story was updated to reflect full names of suspects as reported by Burmese media.

Source: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2014/10/07/koh-tao-murders-accused-men-recant-confessions-tell-embassy-lawyer-they-were-tortured

“They said they didn't do it, that the Thai police (along with their Burmese-Thai translator) beat them until they confessed to something they didn't do."

More on RTP.

[Lex Talionis]

Burmese Suspects in Koh Tao Murders Tortured Under Interrogation: Lawyer

By SAW YAN NAING & KYAW KHA / THE IRRAWADDY| Tuesday, October 7, 2014 |

A group of Thai and Burmese lawyers, officials and migrant activists meet with the two Burmese murder suspects on Koh Samui, southern Thailand. (Photo: Min Oo)

CHIANG MAI, Thailand — Two Burmese migrants currently being detained on Thailand’s Koh Samui were allegedly beaten and threatened by Thai police and an interpreter under interrogation for the murders of two British tourists last month, according to a Burmese lawyer who spoke with the accused.

The two migrants from Burma’s Arakan State, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, are suspected of murdering Hannah Witheridge, 23, and David Miller, 24, on Koh Tao in Thailand’s Surat Thani province on Sept. 15.

Aung Myo Thant, a Burmese lawyer who is part of a legal team sent by the Burmese Embassy in Bangkok to represent the accused, told The Irrawaddy that Win Zaw Htun was assaulted and threatened after refusing to confess to the murders during a police interrogation.

“He didn’t confess when he was in the investigation center,” Aung Myo Thant said. “A police officer hit the side of his face and the interpreter also hit him four times. Then police threatened to electrocute them [the suspects] and said that no worse thing would happen to them if they confessed. So, they finally confessed as they saw no hope.”

The lawyer said Win Zaw Htun had asked him to “please protect us in accordance with the law.” Aung Myo Thant said the migrants signed a power of attorney document over to the embassy’s legal team, allowing it to represent the accused men in court.

Thai authorities denied a request by the Burmese legal team to meet with another Burmese migrant Maung Maung, who is being held by Thai police as a witness.

“Police told us Maung Maung is not a criminal. They are keeping him to be a witness and provide testimony to the prosecutor. So, they can’t let us meet him. They told us they are keeping him at a hotel,” said Aung Myo Thant. There were unconfirmed reports stating that Maung Maung, who is a friend of the two suspects, was also badly beaten by Thai police.

Several Burmese migrant workers who were among those recently questioned by Thai authorities on Koh Tao in connection with the murders told The Irrawaddy that they were beaten during questioning. Than Hlaing, one of six Burmese migrants who were questioned by Thai police last Thursday, alleged that the group was beaten under interrogation.

The Burmese legal team plans to visit Koh Tao in order to meet with the Burmese community there and collect more information. The team said they are cooperating with the Burmese government and the Burmese Embassy in Bangkok and are acting in accordance with Thai law. Burma’s President Thein Sein will discuss the murder case when he meets Thai Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha in Burma later this week.

When contacted by The Irrawaddy on Tuesday, the mother of three Burmese migrant workers who alleged that Thai police poured hot water over them during questioning said she would not let her children speak to the media out of fear for their safety. She said that after the allegation surfaced in the media, Thai police came to warn her children that they would be in trouble if they spoke to the media again.

“We will try our best to help our Burmese people as they are often abused in Thailand,” Aung Myo Thant said. “We also demanded that Thai police protect our citizens in accordance with the law.”

Who you gonna believe? These guys are all over the map.

[JohnThailandJohn]

Lawyer Aung Myo Thant said the pair, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, both 21, from the Arakanese town of Kyaukphyu, told a Burmese embassy legal team they had murdered English tourists Hannah Witheridge and David Miller by bludgeoning them to death with a hoe on 15 September. However, he said, their stories were somewhat inconsistent and their faces portrayed fear.(DVB)

From what we have learned, there are inconsistencies with both the forensic report and evidence provided in the case, Aung Myo Thant DVB is reporting. The defendants kept repeating that they were very drunk that night. Based on what we have been told, it seems to us like this case is a set-up and not based on hard facts.

You can find links of the Lawyers statements everywhere

So they were drunk as you claim and had somewhat inconsistent statements and they are sitting in jail probably facing the death penalty and looked scared as they told their lawyers they did it.

Do the lawyers plan on getting swabs of their DNA to compare with the crime scene DNA that multiple labs / universities have on file from the crime scene or are they just doing what lawyers do and trying to use what they can to suggest doubt and staying away from what proves guilt?

you missed out - sitting in jail covered in bruises and burns from your heroes!! You really are a nasty uncaring piece of work arent you john? I hope one day you learn your lesson about your heroes and see them for what they are.................tell me .............do you own a motor scooter..........if you do ..................drive it very close to the gutter!!!

The problem with you conspiracy folks is you not only see and hear things that are not true (nowhere am I saying police didn't do wrong) but you then go on to lose the entire plot and are trying to generate pitty for two guys who almost surely are the ones who violently murdered and raped tourists.

Just plain sick.

Edited October 7, 2014 by JohnThailandJohn

[JohnThailandJohn]

Maybe they beat and tortured them on the top of their heads and why they had them wearing helmets to cover up the wounds in front of the hundreds of people watching them do the reenactment.

Edit: Maybe not, here they appear to be meeting with embassy officials, lawyers and human rights groups with shaved heads.

http://7daydaily.com/story/22259#.VDR4QvldX6m

Edited October 7, 2014 by JohnThailandJohn

[hellyes2oo2]

jtj so does that picture show the burmese guys saying "we did it over there", but your beloved rtp saying "no you idiots it was over there"

[JohnThailandJohn]

Koh Tao Murders: Accused recant confessions, tell embassy lawyer they were tortured

By Coconuts Bangkok October 7, 2014 / 22:29 ICT

Two migrant workers from Myanmar recanted their confessions today, telling a lawyer from the Burmese embassy they did not kill David Miller and Hannah Witheridge last month on Koh Tao.

Attorney Aung Myo Thant from the Burmese Embassy made his comments after meeting with the two men, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, who Thai police said had confessed to the crime.

In Burmese media reports, the lawyer said the two men told him they only confessed because they were forced to under torture.

"They told me that they were on the beach that night drinking and singing songs,” he said. “They said they didn't do it, that the Thai police (along with their Burmese-Thai translator) beat them until they confessed to something they didn't do. They're pleading with the Burmese government to look into the case and find out the truth. They were a really pitiful sight. Their bodies had all sorts of bruises. I have already reported all that I have seen today to my government."

Aung Myo Thant characterized it as a “set up” that wasn’t based on evidence.

He added that he was denied access to a third suspect originally detained, Maung Maung, because police said he is “a crucial witness” they do not want interference with.

Meanwhile Thai police authorities today said they’d met with Myanmar representatives who were “satisfied” with the results of their investigation.

UPDATED: Story was updated to reflect full names of suspects as reported by Burmese media.

Source: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2014/10/07/koh-tao-murders-accused-men-recant-confessions-tell-embassy-lawyer-they-were-tortured

Lawyer Aung Myo Thant said the pair, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, both 21, from the Arakanese town of Kyaukphyu, told a Burmese embassy legal team they had murdered English tourists

Speaking to DVB on Monday, Kyaw Thaung, a representative of the Myanmar Association in Thailand, who attended the interview with the defendants, said, “We went to the prison [on Koh Samui] and were allowed to meet with the two freely. They confessed to committing the crime under the influence of alcohol. When asked for further details, they said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe, but not with the sharp end. They said they did it because they were drunk but did not intend to kill the couple.

https://www.dvb.no/news/koh-tao-murderers-were-tortured-says-burmese-embassy-lawyer-burma-myanmar/44781

[JohnThailandJohn]

jtj so does that picture show the burmese guys saying "we did it over there", but your beloved rtp saying "no you idiots it was over there"

To a conspiracy theorist, yes that is what the picture shows. To normal people, they simply don't know because we were not there and while numerous reporters who were stated it was a bizarre scene, none said they were being directed.

[MJP]

Koh Tao Murders: Accused recant confessions, tell embassy lawyer they were tortured

By Coconuts Bangkok October 7, 2014 / 22:29 ICT

Two migrant workers from Myanmar recanted their confessions today, telling a lawyer from the Burmese embassy they did not kill David Miller and Hannah Witheridge last month on Koh Tao.

Attorney Aung Myo Thant from the Burmese Embassy made his comments after meeting with the two men, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, who Thai police said had confessed to the crime.

In Burmese media reports, the lawyer said the two men told him they only confessed because they were forced to under torture.

"They told me that they were on the beach that night drinking and singing songs,” he said. “They said they didn't do it, that the Thai police (along with their Burmese-Thai translator) beat them until they confessed to something they didn't do. They're pleading with the Burmese government to look into the case and find out the truth. They were a really pitiful sight. Their bodies had all sorts of bruises. I have already reported all that I have seen today to my government."

Aung Myo Thant characterized it as a “set up” that wasn’t based on evidence.

He added that he was denied access to a third suspect originally detained, Maung Maung, because police said he is “a crucial witness” they do not want interference with.

Meanwhile Thai police authorities today said they’d met with Myanmar representatives who were “satisfied” with the results of their investigation.

UPDATED: Story was updated to reflect full names of suspects as reported by Burmese media.

Source: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2014/10/07/koh-tao-murders-accused-men-recant-confessions-tell-embassy-lawyer-they-were-tortured

Lawyer Aung Myo Thant said the pair, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, both 21, from the Arakanese town of Kyaukphyu, told a Burmese embassy legal team they had murdered English tourists

Speaking to DVB on Monday, Kyaw Thaung, a representative of the Myanmar Association in Thailand, who attended the interview with the defendants, said, “We went to the prison [on Koh Samui] and were allowed to meet with the two freely. They confessed to committing the crime under the influence of alcohol. When asked for further details, they said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe, but not with the sharp end. They said they did it because they were drunk but did not intend to kill the couple.

https://www.dvb.no/news/koh-tao-murderers-were-tortured-says-burmese-embassy-lawyer-burma-myanmar/44781

"they said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe"

If you've seen the victims wounds you'd know this doesn't add up.

[JLCrab]

Well if the 2 Burmese didn't do it, and they were there by their own account on the beach while it occurred, then given all the commotion they would likely be witnesses to who did or else they're saying: We were drunk --We didn't see or hear nuthin'

[JohnThailandJohn]

Koh Tao Murders: Accused recant confessions, tell embassy lawyer they were tortured

By Coconuts Bangkok October 7, 2014 / 22:29 ICT

Two migrant workers from Myanmar recanted their confessions today, telling a lawyer from the Burmese embassy they did not kill David Miller and Hannah Witheridge last month on Koh Tao.

Attorney Aung Myo Thant from the Burmese Embassy made his comments after meeting with the two men, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, who Thai police said had confessed to the crime.

In Burmese media reports, the lawyer said the two men told him they only confessed because they were forced to under torture.

"They told me that they were on the beach that night drinking and singing songs,” he said. “They said they didn't do it, that the Thai police (along with their Burmese-Thai translator) beat them until they confessed to something they didn't do. They're pleading with the Burmese government to look into the case and find out the truth. They were a really pitiful sight. Their bodies had all sorts of bruises. I have already reported all that I have seen today to my government."

Aung Myo Thant characterized it as a “set up” that wasn’t based on evidence.

He added that he was denied access to a third suspect originally detained, Maung Maung, because police said he is “a crucial witness” they do not want interference with.

Meanwhile Thai police authorities today said they’d met with Myanmar representatives who were “satisfied” with the results of their investigation.

UPDATED: Story was updated to reflect full names of suspects as reported by Burmese media.

Source: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2014/10/07/koh-tao-murders-accused-men-recant-confessions-tell-embassy-lawyer-they-were-tortured

Lawyer Aung Myo Thant said the pair, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, both 21, from the Arakanese town of Kyaukphyu, told a Burmese embassy legal team they had murdered English tourists

Speaking to DVB on Monday, Kyaw Thaung, a representative of the Myanmar Association in Thailand, who attended the interview with the defendants, said, “We went to the prison [on Koh Samui] and were allowed to meet with the two freely. They confessed to committing the crime under the influence of alcohol. When asked for further details, they said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe, but not with the sharp end. They said they did it because they were drunk but did not intend to kill the couple.

https://www.dvb.no/news/koh-tao-murderers-were-tortured-says-burmese-embassy-lawyer-burma-myanmar/44781

"they said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe"

If you've seen the victims wounds you'd know this doesn't add up.

And if you knew about confessions, criminals often (most of the time) down play what they did ... just as they stated they didn't intend to kill them.

[MJP]

Koh Tao Murders: Accused recant confessions, tell embassy lawyer they were tortured

By Coconuts Bangkok October 7, 2014 / 22:29 ICT

Two migrant workers from Myanmar recanted their confessions today, telling a lawyer from the Burmese embassy they did not kill David Miller and Hannah Witheridge last month on Koh Tao.

Attorney Aung Myo Thant from the Burmese Embassy made his comments after meeting with the two men, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, who Thai police said had confessed to the crime.

In Burmese media reports, the lawyer said the two men told him they only confessed because they were forced to under torture.

"They told me that they were on the beach that night drinking and singing songs,” he said. “They said they didn't do it, that the Thai police (along with their Burmese-Thai translator) beat them until they confessed to something they didn't do. They're pleading with the Burmese government to look into the case and find out the truth. They were a really pitiful sight. Their bodies had all sorts of bruises. I have already reported all that I have seen today to my government."

Aung Myo Thant characterized it as a “set up” that wasn’t based on evidence.

He added that he was denied access to a third suspect originally detained, Maung Maung, because police said he is “a crucial witness” they do not want interference with.

Meanwhile Thai police authorities today said they’d met with Myanmar representatives who were “satisfied” with the results of their investigation.

UPDATED: Story was updated to reflect full names of suspects as reported by Burmese media.

Source: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2014/10/07/koh-tao-murders-accused-men-recant-confessions-tell-embassy-lawyer-they-were-tortured

Lawyer Aung Myo Thant said the pair, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, both 21, from the Arakanese town of Kyaukphyu, told a Burmese embassy legal team they had murdered English tourists

Speaking to DVB on Monday, Kyaw Thaung, a representative of the Myanmar Association in Thailand, who attended the interview with the defendants, said, “We went to the prison [on Koh Samui] and were allowed to meet with the two freely. They confessed to committing the crime under the influence of alcohol. When asked for further details, they said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe, but not with the sharp end. They said they did it because they were drunk but did not intend to kill the couple.

https://www.dvb.no/news/koh-tao-murderers-were-tortured-says-burmese-embassy-lawyer-burma-myanmar/44781

"they said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe"

If you've seen the victims wounds you'd know this doesn't add up.

And if you knew about confessions, criminals often (most of the time) down play what they did ... just as they stated they didn't intend to kill them.

Maybe. But there's too much suspicion surrounding this case. The best thing the Thai police can do is bring in UK police to corroborate the forensics and remove the doubt. No loss of face in doing that. In fact it would show them in a very good light and instil great confidence, fix all of the damage very quickly.

[Rooo]

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[j8k]

Thai police is corrupt, in fact the whole country is!

[Patsycat]

You lot who are good for finding newspaper comments, find the one for the Jersey paper the day that David was buried. And read what the family said. Leave these people alone to grieve,

This whole argument that you lot are having, is your hate against the thai police. it is not to find the real killers, who may be or not those two. Some of you don't care, i do.

Edited October 8, 2014 by Patsycat

[MJP]

You lot who are good for finding newspaper comments, find the one for the Jersey paper the day that David was buried. And read what the family said. Leave these people alone.

Can't find it Patsy.

[Patsycat]

I don't know how to link - just google David Miller funeral. Sad. It's in a Jersey newspaper.

Edited October 8, 2014 by Patsycat

[Jiu-Jitsu]

I don't know how to link - just google David Miller funeral. Sad. It's in a Jersey newspaper.

Just copy the address and paste it here. That's it.

[crazykopite]

Unless the RTP are prepared to release all DNA to outside sources based in the UK the will always be suspicions that this whole sad and terrible episode was a stitch up as for the British Embassy they are an embarrassment with there handling of this case.

[bongoz]

Noted: A reconfirmed cockup-up is simply a reconfirmed cock-up.

What comes after a reconfirmed statement a re-reconfirmed statement or a NOT GUILTY verdict?

[bongoz]

That is good then....But what happened to this guy...why was he asked to hang himself by Mon and Mons Copper Friend ??? and why is Mon taken pic of hin in the Minimart ???

Same guy...?

[GAZZPA]

It was previously stated that the 2 suspects refused to have lawyers represent them and yet here we are being told that they confessed in front of their lawyers. At best the stories are terribly conflicting time and time again, at worst the police are fitting them up and are terrible liars.

On another thread the suspects talk of being tortured and being told that a confession will mean no worse treatment for them then what they were being threatened with, so they confessed as they saw no hope.

I hope that these 2 did commit the crime,, but if not then let them go and put efforts into finding the real criminals rather then wasting time defending continual contradictions.

[bigjules007]

You lot who are good for finding newspaper comments, find the one for the Jersey paper the day that David was buried. And read what the family said. Leave these people alone to grieve,

This whole argument that you lot are having, is your hate against the thai police. it is not to find the real killers, who may be or not those two. Some of you don't care, i do.

Patsy, the reason i am doing this is to find the real killers of Hannah and David, the two Burmese immigrants who have been wrongfully accused of this murder have parents and families too, do you think they 're parents would feel any differently then David and Hannah's parents if there sons were sent to there death for a crime they didnt commit?

All we want is justice and a fair trial for these two boys and for the real killers to be bought to justice, nothing more or nothing less. Why should people literally get away with murder just because of there monetary status or the connections they may have with the authorities, how do you think we would react in the U.K if this was happening in the U.K with our police force? there would be absolute pandemonium, we are doing this because we care, and as always my thoughts are with the parents of David and Hannah.

[bongoz]

It appears the victims were drinking that night but missed reports that the two suspects were drunk. Do you have a link to this or just speculation again stated as fact by you?

“Lawyer Aung Myo Thant said the pair, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, both 21, from the Arakanese town of Kyaukphyu, told a Burmese embassy legal team they had murdered English tourists Hannah Witheridge and David Miller by bludgeoning them to death with a hoe on 15 September. However, he said, their stories were ‘somewhat inconsistent’ and ‘their faces portrayed fear’.(DVB)

“From what we have learned, there are inconsistencies with both the forensic report and evidence provided in the case,” Aung Myo Thant DVB is reporting. “The defendants kept repeating that they were very drunk that night. Based on what we have been told, it seems to us like this case is a set-up and not based on hard facts.

You can find links of the Lawyers statements everywhere

Would you like more ?

Aung Myo Thant, a Burmese lawyer who is part of a legal team sent by the Burmese Embassy in Bangkok to represent the accused, told The Irrawaddy that Win Zaw Htun was assaulted and threatened after refusing to confess to the murders during a police interrogation. “He didn’t confess when he was in the investigation center,” Aung Myo Thant said. “A police officer hit the side of his face and the interpreter also hit him four times. Then police threatened to electrocute them [the suspects] and said that no worse thing would happen to them if they confessed. So, they finally confessed as they saw no hope.”

The lawyer said Win Zaw Htun had asked him to “please protect us in accordance with the law.” Aung Myo Thant said the migrants signed a power of attorney document over to the embassy’s legal team, allowing it to represent the accused men in court.

Thai authorities denied a request by the Burmese legal team to meet with another Burmese migrant Maung Maung, who is being held by Thai police as a witness. “Police told us Maung Maung is not a criminal. They are keeping him to be a witness and provide testimony to the prosecutor. So, they can’t let us meet him. They told us they are keeping him at a hotel,” said Aung Myo Thant. There were unconfirmed reports stating that Maung Maung, who is a friend of the two suspects, was also badly beaten by Thai police.

The Thai National Human Rights Commission has reported on PBS that the two Burmese said they were 'tortuted' and lawyers for Myanmar Migrant Workers/ Cross Cultural Federation are reporting similar claims.

So hows the RTP halo looking now ?

"Thai authorities denied a request by the Burmese legal team to meet with another Burmese migrant Maung Maung, who is being held by Thai police as a witness. “Police told us Maung Maung is not a criminal. They are keeping him to be a witness and provide testimony to the prosecutor. So, they can’t let us meet him. They told us they are keeping him at a hotel,” said Aung Myo Thant. There were unconfirmed reports stating that Maung Maung, who is a friend of the two suspects, was also badly beaten by Thai police."

A Burmese witness under police guard? Is this even legal?

[hellyes2oo2]

jtj, on this and every other thread relating to this crime you have repeatedly derided all us so called conspiracy theorists as spouting nonsense. But when asked questions by many people you continually refuse to answer them, just repeating your usual diatribe against anyone who doesn't agree with your views. So here and now I challenge you to answer a few of the anomalies in the police statements, you have a large audience just hanging on your every word, so here is your chance to convince all of the sceptics, just answer the following questions.

1 these two burmese guys were among the first 300 who had their DNA tested, and the police made a statement that no matches were found among those 300, so how did they suddenly get a match when they tested them a second time?

2 the police said that the phone david bought in thailand was found on the beach, bloodstained and with a blond hair stuck to, they also said that the phone that he brought from england that was blocked in thailand was found in his luggage, so how did that phone get found behind the burmese guys room? or are we now to believe he had three phones.

3 The police have not said if this other phone had been tested for fingerprints or DNA, nor have they said if it contained the burmese guys fingerprints, why not?.

4 The police stated on friday, that the burmese guys had confessed to the killings because " We saw them having SEX on the beach and we were jealous" But on saturday the police changed that statement to say " We saw them KISSING on the beach and we got jealous, so which was it.

5 None of Davids DNA was found on Hannahs body or vica verca, which proves they were not having sex or kissing, so why would the police accept a confession that obviously was not true. And by the way the police did state that david and hannah did not have sex.

6 The mafia chief offered 1 million baht reward to the police ( not the public) if they could prove that his son was involved in the killings. Yet his son says he was in Bangkok at the time of the killings, are you trying to tell me that he would not know if his son was in Bangkok or on the Island, and if he did know he was in Bangkok why offer the reward.

7 Why was the cctv evidence tampered with to remove 2 minutes of the tape?.

8 If the mafia chief was so convinced his familly were not involved why not just give DNA samples and have done with it.

I will leave it at that for now, because i know you made need a some time to converse with the RTP, so that you can come up with some pretty amazing answers. My bet is that you won't answer any questions, and you may even ask your buddies to come and arrest me for doubting their unblemished record of being honest over the years. If you want me to make it easy for them to find me just PM me, I am in Thailand.