DNA results from Ko Tao village head’s son don't match traces on slain British tourists

[draftvader]

The police put themselves in the firing line all the time with unnecessary comments. Why did they even need to state that the results would not be forwarded to the UK police?

They should note the way the UK police have handled themselves during their investigation observation. We've heard nothing from them at all.

Which must be confusing the hell out of the RTP

[off road pat]

Correct me if I'm Wrong...!!!!???

They always compare the DNA with the cigarette bud found near the victim,....But never talk about DNA samples collected from the body of the victim...?????

As far as I know they don't have DNA samples from in and out the body of the victim,....there was no doctor able to collect DNA samples on Koh Tao,....

They consider the cigarette bud to be from the rapist/killer...??? (Could be any ones !!!!)

That's why they caught those Burmese guys,...these guys were known to play guitar and smoke near that place that night....!!!!

SO!!!!, of course the DNA sample from the headman's son don't match.....the cigarette bud....

Edited November 1, 2014 by off road pat

[Fat Haggis]

The RTP confused ? Never!!!

It's like putting two shovels against a wall and telling them to take their pick !! ?

[JOC]

Makes you wonder, who are they really protecting??

Must be someone high up in the foodchain!!

Not sure if there is any truth in what was already reported but Suthep is supposed to be his Uncle however I don't really see what bearing having such a person of interests as Khun Suthep would have any influence on any outcome, other than he owns quite a substantial part of the Region.

That could expain, just speculating, why the army has acted like kittens in this case. Since Suthep gave Prayuth the excuse, he needed to stage the coup!!

Personally I believe, they are trying to protect a very substancial moneyflow!! Use your imagination!!

[StealthEnergiser]

Just reading on csiLA they are saying the pancake translator said that a wine bottle was used as a weapon.

[draftvader]

Makes you wonder, who are they really protecting??

Must be someone high up in the foodchain!!

Not sure if there is any truth in what was already reported but Suthep is supposed to be his Uncle however I don't really see what bearing having such a person of interests as Khun Suthep would have any influence on any outcome, other than he owns quite a substantial part of the Region.

That could expain, just speculating, why the army has acted like kittens in this case. Since Suthep gave Prayuth the excuse, he needed to stage the coup!!

Personally I believe, they are trying to protect a very substancial moneyflow!! Use your imagination!!

The problem with a rented mob is that all that is needed to turn them against you is more money.....

[JOC]

Just reading on csiLA they are saying the pancake translator said that a wine bottle was used as a weapon.

CSI LA is about as trustworthy as the Thai police!!

[NongKhaiKid]

The police have made lots of errors but to me this is the biggest.

The police on Koh Tao Island have announced they have arrested a suspect in the murder of two British tourists in Koh Tao and are still hunting for a second suspect who has escaped into Bangkok.

http://www.chiangraitimes.com/koh-tao-murder-suspect-arrested-another-on-the-run.html

Mon and Nomsod.

He said both suspects were captured by CCTV cameras and the police have gathered enough evidence to implicate them in the murders.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/

Here is the cctv evidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3sHTxNP2N4

Cameras know you by your walk

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528835.600-cameras-know-you-by-your-walk.html

I sincerely hope the defence team have a researcher(s) making a chronological list, starting on Day 1, of all the comments etc made by the BIB and Thai officialdom to show all the claims, changes of story and so on.

Would be quite an eye opener, would put the BIB on the spot and any refusal to answer or comment quite damning.

[nonb]

Just reading on csiLA they are saying the pancake translator said that a wine bottle was used as a weapon.

The question is where is that rotee seller now?

[thailandchilli]

Just reading on csiLA they are saying the pancake translator said that a wine bottle was used as a weapon.

The question is where is that rotee seller now?

And where is the wine bottle or broken glass? Evidence of Mon and the headman crawling all over the crime scene maybe a hint

[catweazle]

DNA results from the four state hospitals in Bangkok -- Police General Hospital, Ramathibodi Hospital, Siriraj Hospital and Chulalongkorn Hospital -- now show that the two men are not involved with the murders and so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut.

Wow! I am so relieved!!! And wow!!! I am at awe that the RTP has the nerve to tell the British government that they won't need to see the test results...

Who did the counter matching? Who can assure that the DNA samples found in Hannah haven't been swapped or tempered with?

For this atrocity and the lack of professionalism and ethics, Thailand deserves sanctions and some kind of international court ruling that requires an international assembly of csi specialists to tear this farce apart.

Everything would have been different if that little prick wouldn't have disappeared for a whole week and refused to give a DNA sample in the very beginning. Shame on everyone involved in this stitch-up. Honor to the ones who fight to find out the truth despite all the threats.

Power to the people!

[Scott]

A post which crosses the line on possible defamation has been removed. Please exercise care in your references to the police, and judicial proceedings.

[BritTim]

And where is the wine bottle or broken glass?

Glass is almost the ultimate medium from which to extract fingerprints. If it were true, then removing it from the investigation would be a top priority. Note that finding traces of broken glass in (for instance) the victims' hair would still be possible from an embalmed body. I do, however, doubt the wine bottle hypothesis as I think some evidence of it would have shown up on the photos.

[jdinasia]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

I'd prefer to see full international sanctions against Thailand for that matter. It would hardly affect us who live here, but it would certainly affect KTao and this pair of corrupt, ugly, lying bastards, and the son, for that matter.

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

[jdinasia]

Makes you wonder, who are they really protecting??

Must be someone high up in the foodchain!!

Not sure if there is any truth in what was already reported but Suthep is supposed to be his Uncle however I don't really see what bearing having such a person of interests as Khun Suthep would have any influence on any outcome, other than he owns quite a substantial part of the Region.

That could expain, just speculating, why the army has acted like kittens in this case. Since Suthep gave Prayuth the excuse, he needed to stage the coup!!

Personally I believe, they are trying to protect a very substancial moneyflow!! Use your imagination!!

Worthy of its own entry on csila. LOL

[changnaam]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

I'd prefer to see full international sanctions against Thailand for that matter. It would hardly affect us who live here, but it would certainly affect KTao and this pair of corrupt, ugly, lying bastards, and the son, for that matter.

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

JD you are stooping to new lows "people die all over the world"...,,,,,

I suggest you go back to the photos which I am sure you will have seen of this poor, innocent girl. How you can be so dismissive of this case is beyond me.

You are one sad man.

[jdinasia]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

I'd prefer to see full international sanctions against Thailand for that matter. It would hardly affect us who live here, but it would certainly affect KTao and this pair of corrupt, ugly, lying bastards, and the son, for that matter.

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

JD you are stooping to new lows "people die all over the world"...,,,,,

I suggest you go back to the photos which I am sure you will have seen of this poor, innocent girl. How you can be so dismissive of this case is beyond me.

You are one sad man.

Are people not killed all over the world?

You resort to an emotional response instead of looking at the facts.

[dcutman]

What ever happened to Gen Panya after he made his announcement that Mon and Worat were prime suspects? And why were Mon and Worat dismissed as suspects so quickly after Lt Gen Chakthip to over the case.

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[changnaam]

I would love to know what has happened to Panya. Bet he feels the same way, his reputation I guess has suffered because of this mess. At least he tried.

[love1012]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

I'd prefer to see full international sanctions against Thailand for that matter. It would hardly affect us who live here, but it would certainly affect KTao and this pair of corrupt, ugly, lying bastards, and the son, for that matter.

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

JD I want civilly ask you one question - can you be intelligent and give me a straight yes or no answer. Here goes.................

Do you believe the Royal Thai Police Force has a problem with internal corruption?

[Commerce]

The first mistake the RTP/Government made was to treat this as 'just another farang death in Thailand and that it would eventually blow over. Not this time. They have seriously been caught with their pants down.

No, actually. The first mistake was that police officers at the scene of the crime took pics with their cameras and went home and released them onto the social net. Thick as shit or what? Not only did they release gruesome pictures of an unyet DNA'd crime scene, they thought they might get a little earner or two from it. That was the first mistake, and it stinks more than most of what has followed since.

Prayuth and Co. threaten us in using social media...... well I'd love to be invited to court with the histories of BIB events I have stored on an external drive. The BIB efed up by releasing pictures of the deceased on the day of discovery, and then making statements they now have retracted concerning the well knit island family and henchmen, who were the INITIAL SUSPECTS, until positions of power and money started to negotiate.

In essence, KTao should be a NO GO area for any foreigner, from any land - and that should be emphasised. The AC Bar and its owner should be made to pay, by not having any kind of farang/foreign custom, and I condemn any backpackers or holiday makers to even go near the bar, or that bitch in particular.

Edit: spelling correction; 'Beach'.

[givenall]

I will wait to hear from the British authorities before I believe this result

[Commerce]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

I'd prefer to see full international sanctions against Thailand for that matter. It would hardly affect us who live here, but it would certainly affect KTao and this pair of corrupt, ugly, lying bastards, and the son, for that matter.

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

JD I want civilly ask you one question - can you be intelligent and give me a straight yes or no answer. Here goes.................

Do you believe the Royal Thai Police Force has a problem with internal corruption?

Do you expect a logical answer? I wouldn't even pose such a question. He's as tunnel visioned as JTJ...... in fact I think they got a room together.

[jdinasia]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

I'd prefer to see full international sanctions against Thailand for that matter. It would hardly affect us who live here, but it would certainly affect KTao and this pair of corrupt, ugly, lying bastards, and the son, for that matter.

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

JD I want civilly ask you one question - can you be intelligent and give me a straight yes or no answer. Here goes.................

Do you believe the Royal Thai Police Force has a problem with internal corruption?

Yes, as do the police in the UK and US and everywhere else.

[bikerbri]

If the son was not on the Island during the time of the murders as stated,why was it necessary to do a DNA test and was the head mans brother tested?

[love1012]

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

JD I want civilly ask you one question - can you be intelligent and give me a straight yes or no answer. Here goes.................

Do you believe the Royal Thai Police Force has a problem with internal corruption?

Yes, as do the police in the UK and US and everywhere else.

OK

So number one - you believe the police in Thailand ARE corrupt

number two you believe the police in the UK and in the USA are AS CORRUPT as the Thai police?

[Neeranam]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

I'd prefer to see full international sanctions against Thailand for that matter. It would hardly affect us who live here, but it would certainly affect KTao and this pair of corrupt, ugly, lying bastards, and the son, for that matter.

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

JD I want civilly ask you one question - can you be intelligent and give me a straight yes or no answer. Here goes.................

Do you believe the Royal Thai Police Force has a problem with internal corruption?

It's only a problem when bloody farang start getting involved on websites.

[jdinasia]

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

JD I want civilly ask you one question - can you be intelligent and give me a straight yes or no answer. Here goes.................

Do you believe the Royal Thai Police Force has a problem with internal corruption?

Yes, as do the police in the UK and US and everywhere else.

OK

So number one - you believe the police in Thailand ARE corrupt

number two you believe the police in the UK and in the USA are AS CORRUPT as the Thai police?

I believe there is corruption. That was the question asked. I also believe there's corruption in all police forces.

[Neeranam]

Does the headman have a wife? Never hear about her. Maybe she is going to make a dramatic appearance saying something totally wild like Nomsod has a twin brother.

[love1012]

JD I want civilly ask you one question - can you be intelligent and give me a straight yes or no answer. Here goes.................

You are dreaming. The UK won't put sanctions on Thailand and nobody else has any reason to. In fact, what basis would the UK have for sanctions? 2 cits died, they don't like how the investigation was handled? Certainly a possibility, though we don't know how the UK government feels. People die all over and often as a result of the actions of foreign governments on foreign land. Usually with no investigation.

If the UK did, how would Thailand respond? Would they toss out the ambassador? Cancel the visas for UK cits?

What people seem to forget is that no country has standing to interfere in domestic matters of another country.

Do you believe the Royal Thai Police Force has a problem with internal corruption?

It's only a problem when bloody farang start getting involved on websites.

I know what youre saying - but Im not farang and i personally know of two Thai men who are on murder charges against police who have been over corrupt with them!! believe me Thais KNOW what the RP is like - its a HUGE topic of conversation in inner circles!! Believe me they are JUST as corrupt with Thai as with farang!! In non tourist areas obviously far more!!