Latest small SUV's.. Honda HR-V vs Mazda CX-3 ?

[Cook my sock]

They look funny with the spare wheel stuck on the back.

[Ace of Pop]

Honda wont like this. They dont fit Clonkers in anything here ,hence a loyal following.If the others had the brains to fit a nice V6 powerfull benzine lump in their SUVs the CRV would die out unless they V6ed it. The V6 Yank SUVS are so much better price wise imo.

The V6 versions of the previous PJS and Ford escape did not sell particularly well. Unfortunately it seems Thai buyers are not that impressed with V6 SUVs.

Thats true,but petrol was more than diesel, now its not , plus the fact the engines then were flat and not in the 220 + bhp range need for performance that comes near an average car these days.Try a new Yank and youd never buy a clonker again.

[bearpolar]

Honda wont like this. They dont fit Clonkers in anything here ,hence a loyal following.If the others had the brains to fit a nice V6 powerfull benzine lump in their SUVs the CRV would die out unless they V6ed it. The V6 Yank SUVS are so much better price wise imo.

The V6 versions of the previous PJS and Ford escape did not sell particularly well. Unfortunately it seems Thai buyers are not that impressed with V6 SUVs.

Thats true,but petrol was more than diesel, now its not , plus the fact the engines then were flat and not in the 220 + bhp range need for performance that comes near an average car these days.Try a new Yank and youd never buy a clonker again.

Don't forget that you could chip the diesel engines to make them pretty strong while with the v6 you were stuck with a high consumption "poopgine"

[Cook my sock]

Changing the subject abit, anyone know of any suspension mod kits for the HRV? Not sure if this invalidates the warranty

[Cook my sock]

Ok found this http://www.redline360.com/bc-racing-coilovers-honda-hrv-fwd-A-96

[JaseTheBass]

Cx3 would make sense @850k for top model as it would be in competition with ford's. Ford's just as small yet way cheaper inside and looks a lot uglier.

It's interesting that Mazda and Honda opted to raise the ante to 1 million for a small SUV/Crossover, instead of playing in that 850k segment occupied by Nissan Juke and Ford Ecosport. Granted those are better vehicles, but not worth that much, and Nissan and Ford were the first movers in Thailand, therefore, already dated.

Agreed, Ford made the interior hard plastics and not upmarket, except for the leather seats, but I still think it retains a higher riding, traditional boxy SUV look, which some people prefer, including me. The Ford is an excellent vehicle though, quieter inside on the road, better riding, and excellent build quality, no issues or annoyances, etc.. I bought one of the first out in Thailand first of 2014. I consider it a Mini-SUV, not a small crossover.

Today, Honda are trying to place that Micro-crossover BRV at the Ecosport price point, and trying to position the BRV in the same price range as the Juke and Ecosport. We'll see if they succeed.

The facelift should be arriving to the Ecosport before too long, which supposedly irons out some of the crappiness of the original model. Hopefully they've fitted adult sized sets in the front in the MKII.

I think that the front end looks okay ... it's the back end that they need to fix ...

True. Ford's always look good and the spare wheel on the tailgate has been scrapped.

[Cook my sock]

I'd rather buy a base cx3 or HRV than the ecosport. So stacked up it looks like a wedding cake

[bearpolar]

problem is pretty much the 1990 feeling behind the wheel.. cheap plastic and cheap blue display

I test drove it right after the ranger and it felt like i was back into a hyundai poney

[JoeW]

At least the Pony was rear-wheel drive. Powered by a decent Mitsubishi engine with the possibility to turbocharge.

It wasn't so bad

[Cook my sock]

Question if anyone can answer it.. The gear selector on the Thai HRV is different to some overseas markets which get a really sexy blue lit tron type lever.. Wondering if this is interchangeable

Edit unless this lever is just for the hybrid version

Edited February 11, 2016 by Cook my sock

[bearpolar]

pretty sure that's an addon just like the sexy blue lt tron type side chrome pannel i have on the bottom of my door

from what i heard back home, they don't give much.. at least here we get bodykit which makes the car look a lot better

[Cook my sock]

went for the blue footwell lights and kept the standard chrome kick panels. Didn't do the extra body kit either but thinking to add the modulo fake aero section at the back. Also getting the chrome trim on the grill painted out in black and thinking of suspension mods (coilover or VSB)if it doesn't screw up the warranty too much

Edited February 12, 2016 by Cook my sock

[DavisH]

Or try the 219hp MG GS turbo which should soon be making it's way here. No idea on pricing yet. This model overseas has a dual clutch 6 speed transmission. But apparently interior is not up to par for Europeans. Might be worth a look if its 1-1.2M baht.

[Cook my sock]

If the 219hp version did make it to Thailand I'd trade in. Same goes for the 1.5 turbo civic coupe

[ardokano]

Honda wont like this. They dont fit Clonkers in anything here ,hence a loyal following.If the others had the brains to fit a nice V6 powerfull benzine lump in their SUVs the CRV would die out unless they V6ed it. The V6 Yank SUVS are so much better price wise imo.

The V6 versions of the previous PJS and Ford escape did not sell particularly well. Unfortunately it seems Thai buyers are not that impressed with V6 SUVs.

Thats true,but petrol was more than diesel, now its not , plus the fact the engines then were flat and not in the 220 + bhp range need for performance that comes near an average car these days.Try a new Yank and youd never buy a clonker again.

But in Thai buy many cloncer. Becouse not big choce.

Ha ha V6 have disel.

Even V12 have disel.

For example my Bro Q7 3 L 2007 Revo

300 + hp diesel fuel consumption of less than clonker 3L disel i fortuner 2012.

[DavisH]

If the 219hp version did make it to Thailand I'd trade in. Same goes for the 1.5 turbo civic coupe

This will be the version we get, prices released on March 19.

http://community.headlightmag.com/index.php?topic=48804.0

[Cook my sock]

Damn.. Dunno whether to laugh or cry.

[DavisH]

Damn.. Dunno whether to laugh or cry.

If its anything like the 1990's quality of the other MG's, you are still better off with a hr-v or cx-3. Most reviews are in Chinese, so have no idea about quality as yet. And if the pricing is silly they won't sell many.

[bearpolar]

Damn.. Dunno whether to laugh or cry.

If its anything like the 1990's quality of the other MG's, you are still better off with a hr-v or cx-3. Most reviews are in Chinese, so have no idea about quality as yet. And if the pricing is silly they won't sell many.

it's just like when you're buying cheap eco cars.

Say you're sitting with a honda CITY, you might envy the almera's KM/L but you still have the overall winner.

Yeah id be fun to have 210hp but you really want to be driving the almera of your segment? Next you'll tell me you'd like to be seen getting out of a brio or march? After that you'll admit you want the whole world to see that you wear women's underwear?

Now if they bring the vtec turbo in, you can feel bad about your purchase

[Cook my sock]

Lol. Yes .. and I heard the hybrid is being launched before the end of the year.

That's the thing, if you wait til the next best thing it'll be an endless wait.

[Cook my sock]

Back to the MG, the cabin design looks pretty nice. I can see the British designers had a battle with what was available but only a couple of areas give the game away ie the cheap looking plastic around the touch screen and some other hard looking plastics. Controls on the steering wheel look good quality, unlike the cheaper MGs..

The exterior looks really decent, especially the back end and profile. The front let's it down abit; headlights look a bit old fashioned and the lower area looks oddly unfinished. Looks like the engine need to be revved to get the full effect. For 220hp I thought acceleration wd be quicker

Edited February 13, 2016 by Cook my sock

[IMHO]

Im curious if people would be talking about this car as much if the badges it wore were one of the other SAIC brands?

[keemapoot]

Im curious if people would be talking about this car as much if the badges it wore were one of the other SAIC brands?

Point is well taken. There is already a lot of push-back on the new Volvos because of Chinese owned and made. It will take the Chinese a lot of effort to overcome this, as we saw from the Koreans and even Japanese long ago.

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[DavisH]

Just a heads up...new ford focus ecoboost 1.5L 180HP is on it's way. Unveiled at the International Motor show this year....with a proper 6 speed auto this time:) http://community.headlightmag.com/index.php?topic=48843.0

Are you watching honda?

[bearpolar]

You do realize that

1) thailand does not get those speeds

2) the focus looks like an abomination just like its baby the fiesta

3) its ugly

4) no resale value

5) its terribly ugly

6) less status than a nissan march/honda BRV

[ardokano]

Im curious if people would be talking about this car as much if the badges it wore were one of the other SAIC brands?

Point is well taken. There is already a lot of push-back on the new Volvos because of Chinese owned and made. It will take the Chinese a lot of effort to overcome this, as we saw from the Koreans and even Japanese long ago.

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10-20 year its "long ago"?

Even i am not sure have for some model few year.

And about koreans I am not sure have few year.

[Cook my sock]

I quite like the look of the focus facelift. But the interior is still dreadful.. Wd still pick a Mazda 3 if I had to choose

Edited February 14, 2016 by Cook my sock

[IMHO]

I quite like the look of the focus facelift. But the interior is still dreadful.. Wd still pick a Mazda 3 if I had to choose

None of them light my fire very much, but I think it's a bit tough to call the Focus dreadful in this company?

Focus Interior:

Mazda3 Interior:

Altis ESport Interior:

Pulsar Interior:

Upcoming 2016 Civic Interior:

[Cook my sock]

The Mazda is hands down the winner in this company surely?

[DavisH]

The Mazda is hands down the winner in this company surely?

In terms of what criteria?