Illegal land occupation

[Lite Beer]

PM raises doubt over redshirt leaders’ worries

BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday raised doubt over the rush of some redshirt leaders coming out to defend their group had no connection with the two bombings inn Bangkok that killed 20 people and injured over 120 others on August 17.

Reaction from the prime minister came as the police investigators were ordered to hunt down a key Thai suspect who is still at large and is said to be a man who could link the August 17 deadly bombing at Erawan shrine to political group.

The man, identified as Yongyut Phobkaew or known as “Aod” Phayungwong is wanted for the bombing and he was said to be a former UDD redshirt guard.

He was also wanted in connection with two deadly bombing at Samarn mansion in 2010 which four persons died, and the motorcycle bombing in Minburi which killed two persons with link to redshirt group in 2014.

Asked by reporters about the political motive implicated in the deadly bombing at Erawan shrine, and a UDD guard was wanted as a suspect, the prime minister said he was curious as to why the leaders of the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) were such a hurry to deny that the bombings were not connected to the group when no fingers have been pointed at them.

But he recalled several political violence in the past and many of the group were arrested and convicted in prison, saying none of these leaders were not convicted in prison, and still are free.

The prime minister then advised that everyone should await the results of the investigation before making any conclusions.

He said that investigators must be allowed to do their work so that they can determine if ‘Aod’ is politically connected.

In another development, police believed that Aod is still in-country as they have uncovered vital evidence that strongly indicate his movements in the capital.

Pol Lt Gen Prawut Thavornsiri, the spokesman for the Royal Thai Police, confirmed that Aod is still at large and police have uncovered evidence that points to his movements in the Minburi district on the outskirts of Bangkok.

Investigations indicated that Aod was directly involved in obtaining materials for the making of the bombs but stated that it is as yet unclear whether the bombings were politically motivated, the spokesman said.

In the case of eight suspects arrested by Malaysian authorities and alleged to be linked to the Bangkok bombings, it has now been ascertained that they were not involved in anyway, he said.

Thai investigators however do not deny the possibility that certain individuals involved with the bombings were hiding out in Malaysia, he said.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-raises-doubt-over-redshirt-leaders-worries

-- Thai PBS 2015-10-03

[Denim]

The man, identified as Yongyut Phobkaew or known as “Aod” Phayungwong is wanted for the bombing and he was said to be a former UDD redshirt guard.

If circumstantial evidence is anything to go by the culprit must have affiliations to the PDRC and the PAD. The man who left the bomb was after all wearing a yellow shirt.

[waldroj]

PM advised that everyone should await the results of the investigation before making any conclusions.

A professional, and diplomatic response.

Yeah! The UN trip was a success after all!

[seajae]

nothing new, the reds were not indicated as suspects , it was only ever stated that aod was known to have red links in the past. The way the reds have jumped on this as an accusation against them is indeed suspect, why try to state "we are innocent" when they havent even been accused plus denying knowing the man when he was a guard with them and linked to previous red bombings. They would do much better simply sitting back and watching what happens unless of course they do know more than they are saying.....

[Thailand]

Bit stupid of the Reds falling for that old trick.

The gov has been doing their best to make it a local thing despite just about everything pointing to a Uigur terrorist reprisal attack.

[bamnutsak]

There must be way to pin this on the Red Shirts, and Thaksin.

Can't they just arrest a bunch of reds, torture interrogate them, get them to confess?

Ah, I love the smell of "reconciliation" in the morning.

[metisdead]

A troll post containing comments in violation of the NOTICE TO MEMBERS POSTING IN THAILAND NEWS has been removed as well as a reply.

[Compo]

nothing new, the reds were not indicated as suspects , it was only ever stated that aod was known to have red links in the past. The way the reds have jumped on this as an accusation against them is indeed suspect, why try to state "we are innocent" when they havent even been accused plus denying knowing the man when he was a guard with them and linked to previous red bombings. They would do much better simply sitting back and watching what happens unless of course they do know more than they are saying.....

Nice bit of unsavory linkage that.

All sorts of cleverly placed, baseless, innuendo.

Well done.

[phoenixdoglover]

PM raises doubt over redshirt leaders’ worries

BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday raised doubt over the rush of some redshirt leaders coming out to defend their group had no connection with the two bombings inn Bangkok that killed 20 people and injured over 120 others on August 17.

...

But he recalled several political violence in the past and many of the group were arrested and convicted in prison, saying none of these leaders were not convicted in prison, and still are free.

...

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-raises-doubt-over-redshirt-leaders-worries

-- Thai PBS 2015-10-03

Well, that certainly cleared things up for me. :-)

[BigBadGeordie]

I know nothing....said all...

[BigBadGeordie]

Animal Farm, George Orwell, chapter 3

It was also found that the stupider animals, such as the sheep, hens, and ducks, were unable to learn the Seven Commandments by heart.

After much thought Snowball declared that the Seven Commandments could in effect be reduced to a single maxim, namely: "Four legs good, two legs bad."

This, he said, contained the essential principle of Animalism. Whoever had thoroughly grasped it would be safe from human influences.

The birds at first objected, since it seemed to them that they also had two legs, but Snowball proved to them that this was not so.

[tumama]

Maybe if our supreme leader hadn't referred to Uighur people as animals the attack would never have happened. Nice try to try to blame it on the redshirts though. Surely that will resonate with the sheep that are actually still listening to what you say. How's that corruption fighting coming along?

[phycokiller]

"evidence that strongly indicate his movements in the capital"

they found his movements but they cant actually see him, very odd

[NongKhaiKid]

Await the results of the investigation before making any conclusions is sensible but obviously doesn't apply to the BIB whose statements over the past few days have already convicted those who have been arrested.

[oneday]

United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) were such a hurry to deny that the bombings were not connected to the group when no fingers have been pointed at them.

Yeah, right, no fingers have been pointed. Haven't you been reading the news lately Mr. P?

They deny it for the same reason your side of the political divide denies it when they are accused of something. It's a political game both sides play. Haven't you been paying attention? Do you really think your "innocent" little remark will fly? Oh, the games children play!

[mikemac]

United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) were such a hurry to deny that the bombings were not connected to the group when no fingers have been pointed at them.

Yeah, right, no fingers have been pointed. Haven't you been reading the news lately Mr. P?

They deny it for the same reason your side of the political divide denies it when they are accused of something. It's a political game both sides play. Haven't you been paying attention? Do you really think your "innocent" little remark will fly? Oh, the games children play!

................"Oh, the games children play!".................. So these games that children play, are they the political games both sides play ?

If so, does that mean we are to give the same innocent little remarks that come from the UDD similar consideration ? Anyone who has lived in Thailand for the past 10 years or so does not have to be told that. Unfortunately for the UDD terrorist acts are to be forever associated with their name.

[thaiguzzi]

Animal Farm, George Orwell, chapter 3

It was also found that the stupider animals, such as the sheep, hens, and ducks, were unable to learn the Seven Commandments by heart.

After much thought Snowball declared that the Seven Commandments could in effect be reduced to a single maxim, namely: "Four legs good, two legs bad."

This, he said, contained the essential principle of Animalism. Whoever had thoroughly grasped it would be safe from human influences.

The birds at first objected, since it seemed to them that they also had two legs, but Snowball proved to them that this was not so.

Damn, i must read that book. It's now on my next book purchase list. Thanx for the reminder.

[SheungWan]

So a former redshirt guard as been up to some freelance activities and the mere suggestion has the red cheerleader team in an instant frenzy.

[SheungWan]

Maybe if our supreme leader hadn't referred to Uighur people as animals the attack would never have happened. Nice try to try to blame it on the redshirts though. Surely that will resonate with the sheep that are actually still listening to what you say. How's that corruption fighting coming along?

Its making some progress now that Yingluck is not in charge but as one would expect, an uphill struggle against Thaksin's boys. As for trying to shift the blame away from the responsibility of the bombers, nice try but no sale.

[LannaGuy]

Maybe if our supreme leader hadn't referred to Uighur people as animals the attack would never have happened. Nice try to try to blame it on the redshirts though. Surely that will resonate with the sheep that are actually still listening to what you say. How's that corruption fighting coming along?

Its making some progress now that Yingluck is not in charge but as one would expect, an uphill struggle against Thaksin's boys. As for trying to shift the blame away from the responsibility of the bombers, nice try but no sale.

You are suggesting Yingluck had been involved with corruption? any evidence? links? or are you just making it up???

[JAG]

Animal Farm, George Orwell, chapter 3

It was also found that the stupider animals, such as the sheep, hens, and ducks, were unable to learn the Seven Commandments by heart.

After much thought Snowball declared that the Seven Commandments could in effect be reduced to a single maxim, namely: "Four legs good, two legs bad."

This, he said, contained the essential principle of Animalism. Whoever had thoroughly grasped it would be safe from human influences.

The birds at first objected, since it seemed to them that they also had two legs, but Snowball proved to them that this was not so.

Damn, i must read that book. It's now on my next book purchase list. Thanx for the reminder.

I want to reread it too. Unfortunately I should imagine it's "not available" here!

[speedtripler]

"evidence that strongly indicate his movements in the capital"

they found his movements but they cant actually see him, very odd

Maybe his atm card or phone or email account linked to him was used etc but they didn't have that info available until a few days later

That's pretty standard everywhere else too

[phycokiller]

"evidence that strongly indicate his movements in the capital"

they found his movements but they cant actually see him, very odd

Maybe his atm card or phone or email account linked to him was used etc but they didn't have that info available until a few days later

That's pretty standard everywhere else too

very true, and if this guy exists he is probably grateful for the warning

[mikemac]

Maybe if our supreme leader hadn't referred to Uighur people as animals the attack would never have happened. Nice try to try to blame it on the redshirts though. Surely that will resonate with the sheep that are actually still listening to what you say. How's that corruption fighting coming along?

Its making some progress now that Yingluck is not in charge but as one would expect, an uphill struggle against Thaksin's boys. As for trying to shift the blame away from the responsibility of the bombers, nice try but no sale.

You are suggesting Yingluck had been involved with corruption? any evidence? links? or are you just making it up???

I thought he was suggesting some progress was being made now that Yingluck is not in charge, in regards to the question posed by "tumama" - How's that corruption fighting coming along?

And why do you end a statement with a question mark ? Are you making a statement or asking a question ?

Anyone could well ask the same questions of you, considering some of the unfounded statements you make - any evidence? links? or are you just making it up???

[Fat Haggis]

United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) were such a hurry to deny that the bombings were not connected to the group when no fingers have been pointed at them.

Yeah, right, no fingers have been pointed. Haven't you been reading the news lately Mr. P?

They deny it for the same reason your side of the political divide denies it when they are accused of something. It's a political game both sides play. Haven't you been paying attention? Do you really think your "innocent" little remark will fly? Oh, the games children play!

................"Oh, the games children play!".................. So these games that children play, are they the political games both sides play ?

If so, does that mean we are to give the same innocent little remarks that come from the UDD similar consideration ? Anyone who has lived in Thailand for the past 10 years or so does not have to be told that. Unfortunately for the UDD terrorist acts are to be forever associated with their name.

Pretty sure that of the current regime can state that the targeting of innocent people at the Erawan shrine wasn't an act of terrorism, it would pretty much make similar acts of deranged red shirts as non terrorist/terrorism related.

Try looking up the definition of terrorism, most of the definition is omitted to fit into a political agenda here in Thailand.

[Baerboxer]

Maybe if our supreme leader hadn't referred to Uighur people as animals the attack would never have happened. Nice try to try to blame it on the redshirts though. Surely that will resonate with the sheep that are actually still listening to what you say. How's that corruption fighting coming along?

Its making some progress now that Yingluck is not in charge but as one would expect, an uphill struggle against Thaksin's boys. As for trying to shift the blame away from the responsibility of the bombers, nice try but no sale.

You are suggesting Yingluck had been involved with corruption? any evidence? links? or are you just making it up???

No he isn't. He's suggesting Yingluck did SFA about corruption despite her nice little anti corruption photo shoot.

If you believe she did do something perhaps you could share the evidence, links with us.

But don't try and put you own spin on his post.

[mikemac]

United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) were such a hurry to deny that the bombings were not connected to the group when no fingers have been pointed at them.

Yeah, right, no fingers have been pointed. Haven't you been reading the news lately Mr. P?

They deny it for the same reason your side of the political divide denies it when they are accused of something. It's a political game both sides play. Haven't you been paying attention? Do you really think your "innocent" little remark will fly? Oh, the games children play!

................"Oh, the games children play!".................. So these games that children play, are they the political games both sides play ?

If so, does that mean we are to give the same innocent little remarks that come from the UDD similar consideration ? Anyone who has lived in Thailand for the past 10 years or so does not have to be told that. Unfortunately for the UDD terrorist acts are to be forever associated with their name.

Pretty sure that of the current regime can state that the targeting of innocent people at the Erawan shrine wasn't an act of terrorism, it would pretty much make similar acts of deranged red shirts as non terrorist/terrorism related.

Try looking up the definition of terrorism, most of the definition is omitted to fit into a political agenda here in Thailand.

Don't really care what the Government described the Erawan Shrine bombing as, but as far as I know it was an act of terrorism. As was many of the bombings/grenade attacks carried out by the redshirts. The whole lot of them should be sharing the same filthy prison cell together. In many other countries the terrorists, both foreign and home-grown, would all be locked up by now.

The redshirts protested about what happened to them in 2010, even though they were the instigators, and then did the same thing to their own people, for daring to protest against the Government.

This is one of many definitions I could find, from Wikipedia -

Article 2.1 of the 1997 International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings defines the offence of terrorist bombing as follows:

"Any person commits an offence within the meaning of this Convention if that person unlawfully and intentionally delivers, places, discharges or detonates an explosive or other lethal device in, into or against a place of public use, a State or government facility, a public transportation system or an infrastructure facility:

a) With the intent to cause death or serious bodily injury; or b)With the intent to cause extensive destruction of such a place, facility or system, where such a destruction results in or is likely to result in major economic loss.

Sound familiar ?

Edited October 5, 2015 by mikemac