Royal Enfields

[AllanB]

6 hours ago, CMKiwi said:

Gd video and some amazing scenery. They spent a lot of time with their feet off the pegs...not sure I'd be doing that too often.

 

One loses a bit of control that way. Sure if you're crawling along and about to fall otherwise I'd prefer to do the trials type riding.

 

Amazing adventure and I take my hat off to them

I think it has to do with tyres. On my dirt bike I stand on the pegs, MrsB too on the back, sort of, as there is plenty of lateral grip. On my road-bike with (quite fat) road tyres there is very little and find that the bike can get away sideways on mud, so I am at least ready with my feet down. Haven't ridden much through water with boulders, but my instinct would be feet down, creating 4 points of contact,... at least in my mind.

 

I have driven through lots of water like this, similar terrain and even worse mud and the Landrover slips sideways a lot. But the professionals seem to agree with you, the old trails boys and scramblers seem to keep their feet on the pegs a lot.

 

Love to do what they do, but left it a little late in life, and fitness.

[AllanB]

We have made a couple of trips on our Lifan 200 and found it lacking in grunt when two up, so I using this as a comparison am looking at the RE 350 to see what extra it offers. Quite a lot on paper.

 

I tend to like to ride at low rpm, I can't remember when I last revved any bike at it's max, certainly never on the road, so looked at the two sets of torque figures,

 

Lifan 200gy 14.5n/m at 7,000rpm 

RE Classic 350 28.0n/m at 5,250rpm

 

So in absence of a graph on either, would guesstimate that the RE is around 3 times that of the Lifan at 2500rpm.

 

Now the weight comparison:-

Lifan 200: wet133kg + 2 persons 140kg + 10kg luggage = 283kg

RE Classic 350: wet192kg + 2 persons 140kg + 10kg luggage =.342kg

 

So the weight difference of around 20% should make very little impact on the performance.

 

So with more than twice the power to torque ratio, this might do the job just fine. Plus these bikes are used in the Himalayas, which is a pretty tough test.

 

Anyone else considering the 350 Classic?

[VocalNeal]

Not sure but I think you can only get a 500 here so 49Nm @ 4000rpm.  If not then good. But classic only has one seat unless there is an option, so you'll need a Bullet.

[AllanB]

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

Not sure but I think you can only get a 500 here so 49Nm @ 4000rpm.  If not then good. But classic only has one seat unless there is an option, so you'll need a Bullet.

Virtually all the secondhand Enfields for sale in the UK are two seaters and yes the 500 has a lot more grunt. I am just looking at the other option, the 350cc, possibly a Bullet.

 

It will be interesting to see what is available in Thailand when i get back. The downside to one over a dirtbike is that I cannot get it on the back for my pickup, which means riding Thai highways which I prefer not to.

 

One thing that just struck me is that if the 500 has so much low down grunt and vibrates at 50mph (sorry 80kph) why not change the sprockets to take that up to 100kph?

Edited September 10, 2017 by AllanB

[Goanna]

RE pillion seats are abailable for the 500 classics. 4300 baht. Easy bolt on, and the bike already comes with rear pegs.

[AllanB]

Back now and want to take a closer look at some RE, anyone know of a close dealership to Khon Kaen? How about test rides, is that possible?

[thaiguzzi]

2 hours ago, AllanB said:

Back now and want to take a closer look at some RE, anyone know of a close dealership to Khon Kaen? How about test rides, is that possible?

Allegedly the Yamaha shop in Udon sells Enfields.

[AllanB]

1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

Allegedly the Yamaha shop in Udon sells Enfields.

Thanks. Is that place easy to find?

[thaiguzzi]

50 minutes ago, AllanB said:

Thanks. Is that place easy to find?

No idea, never been there. Google Udon main Yamaha dealer.

Another option, though further away for you is the Ubon dealer. I have heard and read this is a huge, knowledgeable dealership with multi franchises. Probably THE dealership to visit outside of BKK and CM.

[eisfeld]

I was surprised to see some Royal Enfields at Ducati Phuket today. I know that there are rumors RE might buy Ducati but seems like there's already something going on? They also offer testrides.

[AllanB]

On 29/09/2017 at 6:16 AM, thaiguzzi said:

Allegedly the Yamaha shop in Udon sells Enfields.

Quite right, found it today and in terms of finish, they look good..and built like a brick shit-house, you could almost have a head on with a truck and come out even.

 

However,.................got the guy to start one up, first of all disappointing quiet, maybe that engine music begins when you ride it, but the vibration OUCH!!!!

 

Revved it only a little and almost got dead-finger from the steel end plugs on the handle bars, reminded me when I worked for a whole month with a jackhammer in the Schwarzwald years ago. Whoever designed those bars needs to go back to technical college, learn about damping...Jeeeeeeze that's a bugga.

[bheard]

paying a premium for a ducati is par for the course, I have been buying and riding ducati's for 30years now not sure how much of a premium they could expect to charge for a 50 year old bike design - nostalgia can ony stretch so far I would think.
I know in Oz they are selling for about 8-10k depending on model which is getting up there considering what these things actually cost which from memory is about 3k oz $.
still be interesting to see when // if it happens.

I think you mean "for sale" in Oz. As opposed to "selling". I can't recall actually seeing on. More's the pity.

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[bheard]

looking at the link I cant find a translate button but I did see 320,000THB for the Continental GT - that is stupid expensive even dearer than what they are charging in oz - bit disappointing, nostalgia cant stretch that far 220/250 would have been more realistic, have to wait and see I guess

320,000baht. Great, I'll have 10 thankyou.

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[Denim]

If you want a bigger Enfield could try the new Carberry :

 

 

Edited October 10, 2017 by Denim

[Goanna]

These are current prices. Yakmoto is in Ubon Ratchithani, but prices are the same everywhere.

 

[DILLIGAD]

These are current prices. Yakmoto is in Ubon Ratchithani, but prices are the same everywhere.
 

M2 Motorsport also sell them 1k out, on the road to Sisaket


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[Goanna]

Yeah. I have been in there, but didn't know the name.

[Goanna]

Just dropped mine in for 3000k service today, and see they have a new arrival. Very well fitted out. 

Dic brake, steering damper. Running boards both sides.

[AllanB]

17 hours ago, Goanna said:

These are current prices. Yakmoto is in Ubon Ratchithani, but prices are the same everywhere.

 

Not so, Udon Thani 199.999 baht for basic bullet, without passenger seat, which was 5,500 baht extra. That bloody awful drab sand colour too. 

[DILLIGAD]

Just dropped mine in for 3000k service today, and see they have a new arrival. Very well fitted out. 
Dic brake, steering damper. Running boards both sides.

Any news about the Himalayan?


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[Goanna]

No. I have not heard any news of the Himalayan.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2017 by Goanna

[Goanna]

Royal enfield yakmoto's facebook page have info on what's going on. These photos look like they are from the Thonglor showroom, Bangkok