Daily overstay penalty rate for motorbike

[recom273]

Whats the deal ? I understand if I have a foreign registered bike here in Thailand it's only on a temp import license, for what 30 days ? and that can be extended for another 30 without leaving the country.

If I can just take it in-out ( or the logbook as I have seen in the past )

Does anyone know the maximum fine ?

I was thinking about a fun project, rebuilding a foreign bike then taking it touring .. I wouldn't be riding it here, I would just do the work here and when it was time to leave Thailand, just pay the max fine.

Any clues ?

[MadMac]

Probably nobody knows. So if you don't ask, there will be no answers or penalties. But that's just my guess. Ride along....

[VocalNeal]

Hmm. So with some sort of long term Thai visa you want to ride a bike, say, Malaysian registered, into Thailand when you are not a Malaysian resident, with no Malaysian driving license etc. ? Hey it might work if you are entering on a tourist visa which you got in Malaysia but...

If not riding it here, how do you propose to get it here without importing it? I suppose you could bring it on the train? But still not sure how that would work...

Sounds like a complicated fun project?

[recom273]

Hmm. So with some sort of long term Thai visa you want to ride a bike, say, Malaysian registered, into Thailand when you are not a Malaysian resident, with no Malaysian driving license etc. ? Hey it might work if you are entering on a tourist visa which you got in Malaysia but...

If not riding it here, how do you propose to get it here without importing it? I suppose you could bring it on the train? But still not sure how that would work...

Sounds like a complicated fun project?

No, it's a Vietnamese registered bike.

It's here in Thailand on a temp import license, I think thats valid for just 30 or 60 days.

My idea would be to spend a bit of time rebuilding the engine and one day, take it back - no plans. As we know Thai bikes can't be taken to Vietnam without an escort.

I live not far from the Malay border, I know that you can renew the stay, either by paying 1900b at immigration (?) for another 30 days or just take it in-out like you would do for a personal visa exemption.

I wouldn't want to buy the bike which I think is pretty cheap, spend a little bit of time and money then when I go to leave Thailand the customs tell me I owe them 1000b a day for the past two years.

Just a bit of fun really, another bike in the garage. I saw some young guys in Laos last month, I was struggling with my fully kitted out and heavy adventure bike and I saw these kids on light 110cc Honda wins flying up and down rough roads without a care.

If there was a maximum fine of 5,000b I would just laugh and pay it.

Edited October 23, 2015 by recom273

[papa al]

Good idea.

Go for it.

Less is more.

Edited October 23, 2015 by papa al

[uksomchai]

I had a friend that had a Malaysian registered bike on a temp entry. He used to have to take it out every 6 months for a visa run. It suited him in his situation but that was a couple of years ago so don't know if they have changed things since then.

[Thailaw]

Have a look at the Thai Customs Department web site: http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connect/custen/individuals/importing+personal+vehicle/importingpersonalvehicle

"A temporary import of personal vehicles for a short visit e.g. a motor vehicle, motorcycle, yacht, sports boat, or fishing vessel, etc. into Thailand by owners shall be grant tax/duty relief provided that they are to be re-exported within 1-2 months but not exceeding six months."

"In case where motor vehicles or motorcycles are temporarily imported into Thailand for a short visit via the border points and to be re-exported at the conclusion of the visit, but the importer fails to do so within the time-limit as indicated in the bond and security paper, provided he/she does not intend to violate the regulations, a 100-Baht fine per day, but not exceeding1,000 Baht in total, shall be charged from the due date of the Contract." (emphasis added)

Not sure how or when or by who the bike was brought into Thailand, but there should be a fair amount of paper work (including the "Contract" as specified in the Customs Department's web site) that specifies how long the bike is permitted to remain in Thailand and includes a pre-paid "guarantee" ("determined on the basis of all liable taxes and duties to be paid to Customs", unless the bike came into Thailand "via the Bangkok Port Customs Office and the Suvanabhumi International Airport Cargo Clearance Customs Office, [in which case] the importer is allowed to offer himself as a guarantee") that will be forfeited if the bike remains in Thailand longer than allowed. The papers are in Thai, so you should have someone that reads and understands Thai examine the temporary import papers for you.

[recom273]

Have a look at the Thai Customs Department web site: http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connect/custen/individuals/importing+personal+vehicle/importingpersonalvehicle

"A temporary import of personal vehicles for a short visit e.g. a motor vehicle, motorcycle, yacht, sports boat, or fishing vessel, etc. into Thailand by owners shall be grant tax/duty relief provided that they are to be re-exported within 1-2 months but not exceeding six months."

"In case where motor vehicles or motorcycles are temporarily imported into Thailand for a short visit via the border points and to be re-exported at the conclusion of the visit, but the importer fails to do so within the time-limit as indicated in the bond and security paper, provided he/she does not intend to violate the regulations, a 100-Baht fine per day, but not exceeding1,000 Baht in total, shall be charged from the due date of the Contract." (emphasis added)

Not sure how or when or by who the bike was brought into Thailand, but there should be a fair amount of paper work (including the "Contract" as specified in the Customs Department's web site) that specifies how long the bike is permitted to remain in Thailand and includes a pre-paid "guarantee" ("determined on the basis of all liable taxes and duties to be paid to Customs", unless the bike came into Thailand "via the Bangkok Port Customs Office and the Suvanabhumi International Airport Cargo Clearance Customs Office, [in which case] the importer is allowed to offer himself as a guarantee") that will be forfeited if the bike remains in Thailand longer than allowed. The papers are in Thai, so you should have someone that reads and understands Thai examine the temporary import papers for you.

I'm presuming it was ridden in like I did when I rode to Laos.

I'm presuming the maximum fine is 1,000 THB which is kind of what I was hoping for, either way, sounds good - at 6 months I can even give them a visa run.

Thanks very much for your help.