Dan5 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Self hypnosis can be very effective. Below are a couple good sites for downloading self hypnosis mp3s. http://www.roseannaleaton.com/ hypnosis downloads.com/
mrfaroukh Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Go to Pattaya City Hospital in Soi Bukaoe. It does not cost much, see a doctor and get proper medication. You should not listen to me or others for this.
PeeJay1959 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Zopiclone, I have chronic insomnia, have done since childhood. Dr, got me started on them "short term" 10 years later i'm still on them and they are still working, a real wonder drug,
UPDEHSOI Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 0.5 melatonin, try to google "sleep hygeine" ; medication and sleep is tricky; possibly some Ambien, there is getting to sleep, and staying asleep, if the latter seek timed-release. Melatonin is great if you are just coming from a long trip, or any night actually. 'Twould have been better had you been taking it a week or so before your trip, as it resets your biological clock..but anyway... Melatonin is a hormone that your body puts out as you sleep at night...peak time between ten PM and two AM. Some people take melatonin every night of their lives. I have been taking 1 mg of melatonin for as long as I can remember. It's also great to take if one's hormones are outta whack. And believe it or not, most people's hormones are a bit out of whack. Melatonin works best if when you take it at night ( this is the only time it will work ) you sleep in a COMPLETELY DARK room. I mean BLACK...nary a light from anywhere, not even the red light from your laptop, clock radio or any light from anywhere else in the room. I would not recommend taking more than 1 mg per night. I know some people who take 3 mgs a night, but ( IMHO ) I think in the long run this will mess up your system. Dunno how true it is, but some "Medical Experts" say, 'take melatonin, live longer.'
Kangaloo Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 A glass of warm milk and honey will create the same chemical your brain produces to make you sleep. Also you can try Valerian which is a natural herbal supplement that helps a great deal as well
tonray Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Step 1) Get up early ...before 5:30 AM Step 2) Exercise vigorously Step 3) Agree to meet your Thai GF at 8 PM for dinner at Central World By the time she tells you about her argument with her sister about whether Matt Damon or Ed Norton are hotter, you will be fast asleep
chubby Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 expert physician inservice i attended said anything > 0.5mg is overkill, and possibly some downsides , less being more. another issue is using any chemicals to supplement sleep, may not be providing 'restorative sleep' ; which is probably crucial anyone over 65 is prone to ending up on frequent use of zolpidem/Ambien type medictions, and often insist on using them like my father and uncle..... unfortunately age plays a role it seems in type and quality of sleep 0.5 melatonin, try to google "sleep hygeine" ; medication and sleep is tricky; possibly some Ambien, there is getting to sleep, and staying asleep, if the latter seek timed-release. Melatonin is great if you are just coming from a long trip, or any night actually. 'Twould have been better had you been taking it a week or so before your trip, as it resets your biological clock..but anyway... Melatonin is a hormone that your body puts out as you sleep at night...peak time between ten PM and two AM. Some people take melatonin every night of their lives. I have been taking 1 mg of melatonin for as long as I can remember. It's also great to take if one's hormones are outta whack. And believe it or not, most people's hormones are a bit out of whack. Melatonin works best if when you take it at night ( this is the only time it will work ) you sleep in a COMPLETELY DARK room. I mean BLACK...nary a light from anywhere, not even the red light from your laptop, clock radio or any light from anywhere else in the room. I would not recommend taking more than 1 mg per night. I know some people who take 3 mgs a night, but ( IMHO ) I think in the long run this will mess up your system. Dunno how true it is, but some "Medical Experts" say, 'take melatonin, live longer.'
redbarron Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 temazepam works great for me but i get mine in the US
jacko45k Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I don't like the idea of medically induced sleep. I can appreciate knocking yourself out for a 12 hour flight though. If you are the same Chivas I heard of elsewhere I suspect you have 1 or 2 problems. Not just jet-lag screwing up your sleep schedules?
Chivas Posted December 22, 2015 Author Posted December 22, 2015 I don't like the idea of medically induced sleep. I can appreciate knocking yourself out for a 12 hour flight though. If you are the same Chivas I heard of elsewhere I suspect you have 1 or 2 problems. Not just jet-lag screwing up your sleep schedules? No idea buddy. However I did mention earlier in the thread I had no issues, no money problems, and no problems in general. I have zero problem sleeping in the uk I might add its always Thailand. Too others that suggest more exercise I'm probably doing 3 times as much as back home and that doesn't include, well you work it out !
Mortal Wombat Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Cut the noise. Fellatio, don't drink.
Chivas Posted December 22, 2015 Author Posted December 22, 2015 For those that recommended Melatonin is this in line with your suggestions.....?? http://uk.evitamins.com/melatonin-3-mg-optimum-nutrition-18876
Chivas Posted December 22, 2015 Author Posted December 22, 2015 Well I hope it is as just ordered it !! £3.88 delivered 100 Tabs of 3mg......worth a go I reckon
spidermike007 Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Sleeping pills can be a beautiful thing. Easy to get a prescription at a local hospital. Nothing like a great nights sleep, whatever the cost!
Chivas Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Sleeping pills can be a beautiful thing. Easy to get a prescription at a local hospital. Nothing like a great nights sleep, whatever the cost! Indeed but if you look at my opening posts I went to Pattaya Inter and at stupid cost supposedly received Temezapam which did precisely nothing Edited December 23, 2015 by Chivas
Dan5 Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 Go to Pattaya City Hospital in Soi Bukaoe. It does not cost much, see a doctor and get proper medication. You should not listen to me or others for this.If you went to 10 different doctors you might get 10 different opinions. If your lucky you might find a doctor who has a lot of experience with it, but even among those there is a great deal of controversy. Insomnia is not like an infection or broken leg. There are too many factors. It's not a disease it's a syndrome.
chubby Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 just don't take a full pill, just nibble about a 1/4 of the tab ; 0.5 mg is what i'm pretty sure helps, more may actually cause some drowsiness and be counterproductive Well I hope it is as just ordered it !! £3.88 delivered 100 Tabs of 3mg......worth a go I reckon
Chivas Posted December 26, 2015 Author Posted December 26, 2015 just don't take a full pill, just nibble about a 1/4 of the tab ; 0.5 mg is what i'm pretty sure helps, more may actually cause some drowsiness and be counterproductive Well I hope it is as just ordered it !! £3.88 delivered 100 Tabs of 3mg......worth a go I reckon You reckon 3mg is too much......?? Where I brought them from online they were selling 10mg and I was actually thinking of buying them !! What is the normal use of a 3mg tablet then ?? Whats it for exactly ??
thecyclist Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Agreed sleeping pills should only be a temporary solution, but can do wonders after a stressful day. I found half a tablet of zolpidem sufficient, and the sleep is as restorative as natural sleep in contrast to alcohol or sedative induced sleep. Melatonin and Valerian is probably 80% placebo
impulse Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Have you considered a better bed? I have a hard time sleeping in Thai (all Asian) hotels because they don't have the 3-4" of soft mattress toppers I ended up buying for my apartment in BKK. Before I "enhanced", I had a hard time staying comfortable on the plank they called a mattress.
Beats56 Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Hydroxycine. An antihistamine. Mild but effective. Get at every pharmacy.
Beats56 Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 I use antihistamine when I cant get the brain shut down They work good.
tonray Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 I use antihistamine when I cant get the brain shut down They work good. have you tried watching TV ? Nothing will kill your synapses quicker than that !
chubby Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 for reference: http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/neurologic-disorders/sleep-and-wakefulness-disorders/insomnia-and-excessive-daytime-sleepiness-(eds) see how it starts at 0.5mg, that is what i'm suggesting For insomnia:0.3-5 mg at bedtime is a typical dose. In children with insomnia due to delayed sleep onset, melatonin 5 mg at 6:00 PM daily. In children with developmental disorders (including cerebral palsy, autism, and mental retardation), melatonin 5 mg at 8:00 PM daily. Both immediate-release and sustained-release preparations have been used. For jet lag: 0.5-5 mg at bedtime is commonly taken on the arrival day at the destination, continuing for 2-5 days. Low doses of 0.5-3 mg are often used to avoid the hypnotic properties of the higher 4-5 mg doses.
tonray Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Just a word of warning...melatonin while it will help you get drowsy and sleep, will also give you wild and vivid dreams/nightmares. I had to stop using it due to this...I would wake up so agitated because the dreams seemed too real. Give it a shot...it's like taking LSD that only works while you are asleep.
brewsterbudgen Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Just a word of warning...melatonin while it will help you get drowsy and sleep, will also give you wild and vivid dreams/nightmares. I had to stop using it due to this...I would wake up so agitated because the dreams seemed too real. Give it a shot...it's like taking LSD that only works while you are asleep. Even taking 2x 5mg melatonin has no effect on me whatsoever.
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