Isnt this figure too much? Any authorities which I can complain to? I complained to the management, they said this is the market rate. I dont beleive it.

Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift?

Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts?

Or is it paid to a security company?

But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee?

minimum wage is 300 baht per day I believe, so x 7=2100 x 4 weeks = around 8400 per month.

even if you doubled it, which would be high for that job, its only 16k

They probably enter it into accounts as 30k and pocket 20 !!

Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift?

Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts?

Or is it paid to a security company?

But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee?

I calculated it to be per head.

Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total.

OP - then if that expense is only for wages it's obviously a rip-off. I'd say 10k is about the going rate for wages (in Pattaya at least). I know girls working as waitresses and they are on 10k for a 10-12 hour shift.

But look into it further. Maybe that expense also covers overheads such as uniforms, equipment, maintenance of cameras, employer social security contributions, health insurance etc. Like many things, the devil is in the detail. You have to thoroughly understand the detail of the financial document you've been provided.

Edit: You also have to allow for days off. Eight staff would have a combined total of between 16 and 32 days off per month, requiring extra staff (and expense) to cover them. So while there may be eight staff on duty any one time, the actual payroll headcount may well be higher.

Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift?

Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts?

Or is it paid to a security company?

But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee?

I calculated it to be per head.

Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total.

How much are you charged a month for security contribution/maintenance?

If you multiply that by the number of occupants, and come near to 280k/pm, then that should be about right..........................

If not, and the management won't tell you, ask the guards how much they get a month.

The going rate for one guard for one shift from a Thai security company is around 16-17kB/month. So one guard during the day and one at night, 7 days a week, will cost around 32-34kB/month.

The guard himself will receive less, of course.

From a farang company add about 30-40%.

And an English Teacher with a degree gets 20K

lol

Have there been any thefts in the building ?

If not, then its money well spent

Clearly ridiculous to believe this.

And an English Teacher with a degree gets 20K

lol

And one with out a degree gets 21k

Clearly ridiculous to believe this.

Absolutely!

What a nonsense.

35k: maybe payment to a security company for a whole 24/7 package of the condo.

A security guard (greeter) getting 35k, Isan would be finally emptied out of males.

minimum wage is 300 baht per day I believe, so x 7=2100 x 4 weeks = around 8400 per month.

even if you doubled it, which would be high for that job, its only 16k

They probably enter it into accounts as 30k and pocket 20 !!

per day? 24 hour work?

and if its minimal its not mean its mast be

Anyone looked at the status of the troll OP's previous threads?

Clearly ridiculous to believe this.

Yes and even if it is true why does the op has to complain about it ?

Is he complaining about his own wages ? I guess not

Anyone looked at the status of the troll OP's previous threads?

Time to close (at least for me).

Psycho.

Forgot to extend my ignore list.

He is complaining because SecurityGuardWontSaluteMe

Say, CharlieH. Don't you think your statements about the management 'stealing' 20K baht per month could be construed as 'libel'? After all, stealing is illegal and you are accusing them of that very crime.

I calculated it to be per head.

Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total.

Yes, but how many per shift?

If you directly employ 3 guards during the day and 3 at night, plus 2 gardeners only during the day, that makes 8 shifts per month.

If one assumes that security guards and gardeners earn the same then each will earn 35kB/month/shift, which is nonsense.

But if you have 6 guards on duty day and night that makes 14 shifts, or 20kB/month/shift.

Are you sure that other staff or other items aren't included in that wage bill? And what happens about holiday and day off cover?

Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift?

Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts?

Or is it paid to a security company?

But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee?

I calculated it to be per head.

Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total.

Are they employees of the condo or are they sourced through contract companies ?

I suspect they are contractors. The lions share of the 280k is not going to the people on the ground.

Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift?

Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts?

Or is it paid to a security company?

But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee?

I calculated it to be per head.

Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total.

Only one way to deal with this. Form a residence committee, hold a meeting and demand your managing agent issues a full break down of accounts.

I calculated it to be per head.

Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total.

Yes, but how many per shift?

If you directly employ 3 guards during the day and 3 at night, plus 2 gardeners only during the day, that makes 8 shifts per month.

If one assumes that security guards and gardeners earn the same then each will earn 35kB/month/shift, which is nonsense.

But if you have 6 guards on duty day and night that makes 14 shifts, or 20kB/month/shift.

Are you sure that other staff or other items aren't included in that wage bill? And what happens about holiday and day off cover?

Does the 2 gardeners and 6 security guards include the manager and the handyman and the cleaners?

You need to complain to the newly set up Government agency called Imagine.

There email address is [email protected].

Is this the same guard that is banging your wife and refuses to salute you?

maybe hes multitasking

Perhaps your condo security guard has a few extra life costs he needs to take care of, you or all people ought to understand how expensive that can be.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/873054-my-wife-is-too-friendly-towards-the-security-guard/#entry10111925

Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift?

Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts?

Or is it paid to a security company?

But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee?

I calculated it to be per head.

Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total.

Is there 'padding' or 'leakage' somewhere in the calculation / payment process?

Have there been any thefts in the building ?

If not, then its money well spent

Would you like to buy some shark repellent? I use it everyday and have never been attacked by a shark.

they had to find people who wanted to salute you and they don't come cheap

Our condo pays the security guard 35k baht/pm

well good for them ..... nice to see someone is honest !!

This guy is great, not only is the security guard not saluting him, he's flirting with his wife whilst earning a fortune.........