Using VPN to Speedup Your Internet International Speed

[wpcoe]

What happened to this thread? It seems truncated after Peterw42's post at 10:25:05 on 08-July. I'm 99% sure the thread continued after that. I came on here to follow-up on a post and Pib's reply to it, but both are missing.

[Pib]

You asked me a question over in the thread titled "AIS Anyone Have It" about the PureVPN app that I answered...see your post #40 in that other thread followed by my answer. Maybe that is what you are thinking about.

[wpcoe]

Ooops. My bad.

[Pib]

After filling my stomach with breakfast this morning I did some speed tests from 8:42am to 8:56am Bangkok time using my AIS Fibre 50/10 plan. Mostly non-VPN tests, but I did do some VPN tests to UK when seeing the UK non-VPN connection was slow. Tested to the 12 Testmy.net speed test locations. But first I did a Speedtest.net Bangkok to Bangkok speed test just to check my local connection...I got 50.72Mb down / 12.17Mb up...local connection good-to-go.

OK, now those Testmy.net results:

Location (NonVPN) Down Mbps Up Mbps

Central US Dallas: 14.2 3.8

Central US Colorado Springs: 18.6 3.0

East Coast US Miami: 10.9 6.7

East Coast US NYC: 16.2 6.7

West Coast US LA: 21.5 7.5

West Coast US SF: 17.7 7.0

Europe UK London: 2.4 2.3 (slow...seen that before to the UK...I try a couple of VPN connections later)

Europe GE Frankfurt: 13.4 7.7

Asia JP Tokyo: 24.7 9.1

Asia SG Singapore: 46.3 10.9

Asia IN Bangalore: 41.3 10.8

Australia AU Sydney: 20.9 8.2

Now, lets test that London connection but this time using a VPN connection. One with VPN server "in London" and one with a "Virtual VPN server in Singapore but gives a UK/London IP address."

VPN Server Location (VPN) Down Mbps Up Mbps

London VPN Server in London: 27.7 4.4

London Virtual VPN Server in Singapore: 14.7 2.3 (Note)

Note: Little surprised the closer virtual VPN connection was not faster than the actual London VPN connection as the other day the London Virtual VPN via Singapore connection was much faster than the London VPN connection.

Summary: Just some crossfeed on my AIS Fibre 50/10 plan and another example of where using VPN speeded up things. Your results may (will) vary. And I'm sure using Speedtest.net to above locations would have given me more glorious results since it uses multi-thread/streams (2 to 4) to it's test sites where Testmy.net uses single-thread/stream testing.

Edited July 12, 2016 by Pib

[gessi2000]

OK I have a subscption plan for 2 VPN providers, Hidemyass and Goldenfrog/VyperVPN, but I will cancel the HMA soon as I prefer to use VyperVPN.

I stay in View Talay 5C on Tappraya Road, Pattaya and have 3BB 50MB VDSL on my AVM Fritz!Box 7490 international version (ADSL/VDSL router).

I have my remote equipment in Germany on a 400Mb/25Mb/s line which has this speed link in reality but I had real problems and pain streaming my satelitte box program, even in 480p, over to my Condo because the international bandwitdh is miserable with 3BB. I tried a couple of VPN options with servers in Singapore, Zurich, Bangkok, Vienna and Frankfurt. Only the Frankfurt one raises the download speed from 3-4Mb/s to around 9Mb/s.
All other VPN locations do not show any real difference.

I was considering to rent/lease a Bangkok located Cloud Server with linux having a real good connection with international Internet bandwidth but haven't looked into any options by now.

[muratremix]

57 minutes ago, gessi2000 said:

OK I have a subscption plan for 2 VPN providers, Hidemyass and Goldenfrog/VyperVPN, but I will cancel the HMA soon as I prefer to use VyperVPN.

I stay in View Talay 5C on Tappraya Road, Pattaya and have 3BB 50MB VDSL on my AVM Fritz!Box 7490 international version (ADSL/VDSL router).

I have my remote equipment in Germany on a 400Mb/25Mb/s line which has this speed link in reality but I had real problems and pain streaming my satelitte box program, even in 480p, over to my Condo because the international bandwitdh is miserable with 3BB. I tried a couple of VPN options with servers in Singapore, Zurich, Bangkok, Vienna and Frankfurt. Only the Frankfurt one raises the download speed from 3-4Mb/s to around 9Mb/s.
All other VPN locations do not show any real difference.

I was considering to rent/lease a Bangkok located Cloud Server with linux having a real good connection with international Internet bandwidth but haven't looked into any options by now.

Thai VPS / Cloud providers does not provide dedicated unlimited international traffic. So you can't use it. Your best bet is using singapore vpn / proxy because 3BB throttling against Singapore is only 10Mbit. The rest is 2 mbit for single connection!

[gessi2000]

1 hour ago, muratremix said:

Thai VPS / Cloud providers does not provide dedicated unlimited international traffic. So you can't use it. Your best bet is using singapore vpn / proxy because 3BB throttling against Singapore is only 10Mbit. The rest is 2 mbit for single connection!

Yes you are right that will cost money but I don't stream more than 4hrs a day.

 

Anyway with VPN I can stream now...still testing...

Funny that for me the German VyperVPN server provides better speed and is more stable than the Singapore VPN server.

And I tested a lot...

[Naam]

no VPN but a second fiber optic from 3bb since today:

 

 

[muratremix]

5 minutes ago, Naam said:

no VPN but a second fiber optic from 3bb since today:

 

 

 

Business / Pro 100Mbit fiber or 1200baht/month one??

[Pib]

Beats me on my AIS Fibre 50Mb Home plan....but I still happy.  Below non-VPN. 

 

Edited August 8, 2016 by Pib

[Naam]

9 minutes ago, muratremix said:

 

Business / Pro 100Mbit fiber or 1200baht/month one??

THB 1,284 a month for 3bb fiber,

THB 2,160 for Sophon fiber but only 1/3 of 3bb speed.

 

will cancel now my back-up DSL from 3bb and TOT.

[muratremix]

Perhaps they are not throttling you yet, enjoy first month

Mine is capped to 10Mbits to Singapore.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 8/8/2016 at 5:44 PM, muratremix said:

Perhaps they are not throttling you yet, enjoy first month

Mine is capped to 10Mbits to Singapore.

 

I've got 3BB's 1200b, 100/10 MB FTTH service for well longer than a month now, and I've never experienced that kind of cap.

 

Here's what I get from central BKK in a trio of back-to-back tests via TestMy.Net's Singapore server today at 2:30 pm, direct ethernet connection to my fiber -- 28-31 Mbps, using a 25 MB test download.

 

 

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Meanwhile...

Quote

 

Netflix launched an internet speed test at Fast.com back in May, and this week it rolled out dedicated apps for the tool on iOS and Android. While the apps are identical to the website, Fast's launch as an app could go a long way toward getting people to use it. And that's a big part of the goal here: the more people using Fast, the more data Netflix has on where internet service providers are doing a poor job.

There's good reason to pick Fast over other speed tests, too. Service providers are well aware of certain popular testing sites, and they can optimize their network to perform better on those specific tests. That means the results you get could be inflated beyond what you're getting in day-to-day use. Fast, on the other hand, measures your connection to Netflix's servers. And while internet providers may well optimize for that, that's still going to be useful to a lot of people.

 

 

http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/9/12415740/netflix-fast-speed-test-ios-android-launch

[Anthony5]

On 8/8/2016 at 5:44 PM, muratremix said:

Perhaps they are not throttling you yet, enjoy first month

Mine is capped to 10Mbits to Singapore.

 

I got 3BB 18.8/1.8 ADSL and get +10Mb to almost every overseas server tested with testmy.net 25Mb download.

 

I have also a Docsis 10/1 connection with a CAT reseller that gives me around 5Mb to the same servers.

 

When I play a 1080p stream from a Kodi addon, my 3BB buffers like hell, while the CAT reseller plays the exact same stream as if I stream it from my PC.

 

Is a VPN my solution, and if so which one gives me the cheapest formula, or should I look at other solutions?

 

This is my Netalyzer result from the 3BB connection

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

For international video streaming, I'd say that 3BB and True Online connections definitely benefit from a good VPN connection. From other posts here, it seems that AIS fiber customers thus far are getting good international rates without needing to use VPN connections.

 

[mtls2005]

"When I play a 1080p stream from a Kodi addon, my 3BB buffers like hell, while the CAT reseller plays the exact same stream"

 

I would do all tests/comparisons with a more reliable known good source, like Youtube. Plenty of 1080p content, and none of the vagaries of a Kodi scrape.

 

And you can try a paid VPN service for a short, perhaps even complimentary time period, to see if it addresses your issues.

[Anthony5]

8 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

"When I play a 1080p stream from a Kodi addon, my 3BB buffers like hell, while the CAT reseller plays the exact same stream"

 

I would do all tests/comparisons with a more reliable known good source, like Youtube. Plenty of 1080p content, and none of the vagaries of a Kodi scrape.

 

And you can try a paid VPN service for a short, perhaps even complimentary time period, to see if it addresses your issues.

 

 

I asked this before, but isn't youtube streamed from local server?

 

The free vpn, which gives me a only 3Mb download to UK, solved my issue with the kodi stream

Edited August 31, 2016 by Anthony5

[mtls2005]

I am under the impression some Youtube content which you might access here may have been distributed as close as Singapore.

 

Solving an issue with a Kodi stream today is no guarantee it will work tomorrow. It really depends on the source.

 

But if you think a VPN will address your issues just pay for a VPN service for 30 days and try it out.

[Anthony5]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

I am under the impression some Youtube content which you might access here may have been distributed as close as Singapore.

 

Solving an issue with a Kodi stream today is no guarantee it will work tomorrow. It really depends on the source.

 

But if you think a VPN will address your issues just pay for a VPN service for 30 days and try it out.

I'm not interested in investing in a router and even only 1 month vpn just to try it out

The situation is like this.

 

I use the Kodi addon for about 6 months already on my previous isp. The addon has thousands of 1080p movies listed, and they all play without issues.

 

2 weeks ago I change to 3BB, which gives me more than double the speed to international servers tested with testmy.net, but still have my previous isp connected. I have since used the addon 3-4 times, and movies don't load.

 

Each time I switch back to my old isp, which takes only seconds since I just have to plug in the other lan cable in my Ethernet switch, the streams load.

 

Yesterday I go even further and I install a free VPN on my Android device, which gives me horrible speed to international servers, but still the streams load significantly faster than with the 3BB.

 

I test and retest this several times, always with the sme addon and 3 selected streams, and the result is each time the same.

 

Please explain if i overlook something, but to me it is clear that 3BB throttles my connection. Right or not?

 

The Netalyzer test I posted mentions hidden proxy. Could that be the proxy that 3BB uses to throttle my connection?

 

What does the "connection:close" in the http test stands for?

[Anthony5]

3 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

I am under the impression some Youtube content which you might access here may have been distributed as close as Singapore.

 

Solving an issue with a Kodi stream today is no guarantee it will work tomorrow. It really depends on the source.

 

But if you think a VPN will address your issues just pay for a VPN service for 30 days and try it out.

 

 

Just found another free VPN service, hide me, which gives access to a Singapore server. Free service is limited to 2Gb/month.

 

Speed to UK test server on Testmy.net gives 8.3Mb download.

 

The addon stream that would not load will now start straight away and even will download faster than it can play.

 

Anymore doubts that 3BB throttles my connection?

[mtls2005]

I honestly have no way of knowing if 3BB is "throttling" your connection. They do have to manage their domestic and international bandwidth so as to offer a reasonable level of service to home users, and higher levels of service to business users. And yes, it is easy for them to manage your bandwidth by dropping packets, when they can "see" it. And yes, when you use a VPN they face more challenges in managing your bandwidth, so they let it slide, for now.

 

So yes, a VPN used with 3BB may well address your issues. And of course this thread has vast amounts of data supporting that very contention.

 

Perhaps sticking with your "old" ISP should be considered?

[lothe2]

In Surin, Isaan, I use StrongVPN (http://strong-vpn.info). The speed difference is like night and day, and it is especially noticeable while watching US Netflix.

[Pib]

Here's the speeds I'm getting today using a PureVPN PPTP connection on my AIS Fibre 50/10 plan to Singapore.  Usually its around 50Mb but this afternoon after doing multiple tests its over 60Mb when using Speedtest.net as shown below in multiple tests.  Now, an OpenVPN connection is hard to make, best luck when using OpenVPN TCP, but slow as in less than 10Mb download speed.   Just can't seem to get OpenVPN to work reliably on my setup...but PPTP/L2TP/SSTP protocols work like a charm.   Keep in mind Speedtest.net is a "multithread" tester (up to 8 simultaneous threads) compared to a speed tester like Testmy.net which is a single-thread tester.  Also threw in a Testmy.net test with the VPN PPTP connection to Singapore...remember, it's a single-thread tester.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Anthony5]

7 minutes ago, Pib said:

Here's the speeds I'm getting today using a PureVPN PPTP connection on my AIS Fibre 50/10 plan to Singapore.  Usually its around 50Mb but this afternoon after doing multiple tests its over 60Mb when using Speedtest.net as shown below in multiple tests.  Now, an OpenVPN connection is hard to make, best luck when using OpenVPN TCP, but slow as in less than 10Mb download speed.   Just can't seem to get OpenVPN to work reliably on my setup...but PPTP/L2TP/SSTP protocols work like a charm.   Keep in mind Speedtest.net is a "multithread" tester (up to 8 simultaneous threads) compared to a speed tester like Testmy.net which is a single-thread tester.  Also threw in a Testmy.net test with the VPN PPTP connection to Singapore...remember, it's a single-thread tester.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess you are connected to Sigapore server. How about doing a few speed tests to European servers, using testmy net, and Singapore server selected?

[Anthony5]

I'm currently running a 7 day free trial with VPNunlimited, and get stable speeds to UK and US servers when select their HK or SG servers. Especially to US is high download.

 

On the free trial you only can use it through the app, which uses Openvpn, but with a paid contract you can install it in the router and use PPTP.

 

VPNunlimited can be had for $29 for lifetime with 5 connections allowed.

[Pib]

19 minutes ago, Anthony5 said:

 

 

I guess you are connected to Sigapore server. How about doing a few speed tests to European servers, using testmy net, and Singapore server selected?

I did a lot of those back earlier in this thread.  Review back and you'll see them.

[Anthony5]

16 minutes ago, Pib said:

I did a lot of those back earlier in this thread.  Review back and you'll see them.

 Thanks, see them now, and you get indeed good speeds.

 

With VPNunlimited I don't get those speeds yet, but then I'm only able to use the Openvpn app so it may improve when using PPTP, and for $29 for lifetime I can't complain.

 

On my 3BB 18/1.8 ADSL I get about 8.5 Mb to UK and 14 Mb to San Fransisco, which should be enough for what I need it.

Since I use it for streaming the importance is that the connection is stable , not like a "col" in the tour de France

Edited September 10, 2016 by Anthony5

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, Anthony5 said:

I'm currently running a 7 day free trial with VPNunlimited, and get stable speeds to UK and US servers when select their HK or SG servers. Especially to US is high download.

VPNunlimited can be had for $29 for lifetime with 5 connections allowed.

 

Do their HK and SG servers provide HK and SG IP addresses, or U.S. and UK IP addresses?

[Anthony5]

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Do their HK and SG servers provide HK and SG IP addresses, or U.S. and UK IP addresses?

I guess local IP addresses, because the testmy net result shows a local ISP.

 

Doesn't that mean it is a local IP address?

 

My current IP connected to HK server is 119.81.164.42

Edited September 10, 2016 by Anthony5