Brutal murder of Swedish expat shot dead at home in Cha Am

[SOTIRIOS]

..sounds like they are not going to do anything about it...

...except divvy up all his assets of course.....

...that is what we are welcome here for.....

...and expected to leave everything behind....

Edited July 19, 2016 by SOTIRIOS

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

So one Swedish man killed in Pattaya, another one in Cha-Am and third died under strange circumstances in Phang-Nga during the last 10 days!

As being a Swede myself, I'm now happy to have relocated back to Sweden on a permanent basis.

I have noticed during my ten years in Thailand, farrangs are getting more and more targeted by the years.

I have also been here for a very long time and I can understand why you moved back to Sweden, still I don't know if Europe with all the recent muslim related attacks looks more appealing for my family to relocate to. Vietnam, Malaysia or Singapore is my back-up plan.

[Wilsonandson]

Here is a link to a channel 7 news video report on the murder.

http://m.bugaboo.tv/watch/265564

If you are interested in seeing extra photos of the crime scene then try the following:-

Google - type

English to Thai

Copy and paste the name

Copy the Thai translation

Search past 24 hours

Use most relevant searches

Voila!

This is how I find out about Thai news stories.

R.i.p again to the deceased.

No offence meant.

And yet...

Sorry if I offended anyone. This is an open forum. Some people are interested to know all the details. I haven't posted anything graphic.

[Bluespunk]

Here is a link to a channel 7 news video report on the murder.

http://m.bugaboo.tv/watch/265564

If you are interested in seeing extra photos of the crime scene then try the following:-

Google - type

English to Thai

Copy and paste the name

Copy the Thai translation

Search past 24 hours

Use most relevant searches

Voila!

This is how I find out about Thai news stories.

R.i.p again to the deceased.

No offence meant.

And yet...

Sorry if I offended anyone. This is an open forum. Some people are interested to know all the details. I haven't posted anything graphic.

There is absolutly no call to post graphic images nor explain to others how to find them either.

Ghoulish voyeurism of suffering.

[dageurreotype]

Seems to be the normal way in Thailand to solve any sort of grievance . Get a gun and shoot! Gun culture at it's very best!

Normal??

Normal where?

You must live in Mosul because I don't see or hear of Thais sorting problems with firearms everywhere I go

America, on the other hand . . .

Christ Jesus. Have a bloody word!

[Wilsonandson]

Here is a link to a channel 7 news video report on the murder.

http://m.bugaboo.tv/watch/265564

If you are interested in seeing extra photos of the crime scene then try the following:-

Google - type

English to Thai

Copy and paste the name

Copy the Thai translation

Search past 24 hours

Use most relevant searches

Voila!

This is how I find out about Thai news stories.

R.i.p again to the deceased.

No offence meant.

And yet...

Sorry if I offended anyone. This is an open forum. Some people are interested to know all the details. I haven't posted anything graphic.

There is absolutly no call to post graphic images nor explain to others how to find them either.

Ghoulish voyeurism of suffering.

Yes, the Thai Rath newspaper used to give me nightmares. Would like to discuss with you more but it's off topic.

[gemguy]

Hey

I told you people before.....There are some down right nasty people out there that can ruin your day....so, as I said before:

Always be on guard and vigilant and be wary.

Cheers

[Johpa]

5% of the Swedish population comes to Thailand every year. That's 450,000 Swedes, not to mention those that have made this place their home.

Well that might explain why when a report of a Svenske is murdered in Thailand that so many troll posts need to be removed.

[Mystified]

RIP.

Is it just me or have there been more farang deaths/killings lately than usual? I've also noticed that the police downplays these deaths, orders from the ministry of tourism?

It's part of the tourist authority to remove the farangs without deportation just have then jump off balconies, kill themselves by stabbing in the neck 40 or 50 time and shotgun blasts to the face. Then all the Chinese and Indians can have more room not to spend money ? while telling the rest of he world how high the tourist numbers have jumped 555

[balo]

My advice is "Do not fight with Thai people" here!!!

If you are involved in feud with Thais,they will mostly fight back.It is about "clean face" as well.

We should try not to provoke any dispute and live our life peaceful here!!!

It does happened at" west " as well,even more often than here in many so called "high developed countries"!!!

As far as I read news here,most crimes and death attacks are cos. passion here,not money!!!

The Swede should have learned something about the Thai culture since he lived here and ran a business. So the question remains why didnt he move , he should understand that his life would be in danger .

He probably had temper and could not control himself and made a Thai lose his face , that means game over for the farang....

Edited July 19, 2016 by balo

[balo]

Mr Lars Donald Forfjord is the full name of the deceased. R.I.P

Police think the murder could be related to ongoing feuds, a conflict with his ex-missus, run-ins with neighbours and alcohol fueled shouting matches with local yobs.

Not that it means much but his real name was Lars Donald Qvarfordt, again misspelling of the name is very common in Thailand.

Edited July 19, 2016 by balo

[ozyjon]

Is it just me or have there been more farang deaths/killings lately than usual?

I speak for myself and think,, hell yes !

[balo]

After looking through some Thai articles it seems to me that the deceased is a former policeman , retired in Thailand. He started his Thai business several years ago. He also had plans to open up a hotel .

A picture from his wall , he must have been proud of his earlier job. R.I.P

[eastendanto]

RIP to the Swede..... as to the wheres and whys of his death my mind just boggles at the workings of the BIB... so they have a shotgun cartridge why don't they say forensics are analysing (surely they watch CSI)!! I also do not understand their logic of putting suspects (implied) in the press rather than reporting investigations are ongoing. My comments are general for all serious crimes that I read about on TV......

However the Keystone Kops raid on Pattaya bar/club/whatever certainly will make the world top 10 for idiots of the year awards...and a special prize for the leader of the raid putting not only his boss, but a senior police officer in Bangkok on speaker phone to laugh at them thinking it was some sort of joke... priceless....give the man a mastercard

[hgma]

I got upset when one of the major Thai English news papers referred to the quarrels as when the victim was drunk.

How can they, a newspaper, assess if someone is drunk?

If they refer to times when he had a few drinks, almost ALL crime in Thailand is committed when Thai's are drunk, intoxicated or mad.

I sincerely advise this gutter journalism to be kept in tabloids or not.

There is a family involved.......RIP

[bodymassagemyfriend]

So one Swedish man killed in Pattaya, another one in Cha-Am and third died under strange circumstances in Phang-Nga during the last 10 days!

As being a Swede myself, I'm now happy to have relocated back to Sweden on a permanent basis.

I have noticed during my ten years in Thailand, farrangs are getting more and more targeted by the years.

I have also been here for a very long time and I can understand why you moved back to Sweden, still I don't know if Europe with all the recent muslim related attacks looks more appealing for my family to relocate to. Vietnam, Malaysia or Singapore is my back-up plan.

300 dead over 500 millions in Europe. In France its 10% of the death from road accident. Dont worry , you are safe in Europe. :-)

[thailandsgreat]

I reacted to the picture in Bangkok Post yesterday (link not allowed here). It showed the suspect sitting relaxed among police officers. It seemed he was making jokes with some police officers and they laughed! (And the internet link name of the article was not about the murder or the arrest, it was something like "Swede insulted my family")

When I heard ex-cop, dogs, watch-dog, "health food" business, he had gun(s?) at home, I thought it might have been a drug killing. I didn't expect insults only to lead this far. The Thai would have found some less obvious way to express his discontent before this.

Edited July 24, 2016 by thailandsgreat

[ClutchClark]

I reacted to the picture in Bangkok Post yesterday (link not allowed here). It showed the suspect sitting relaxed among police officers. It seemed he was making jokes with some police officers and they laughed! (And the internet link name of the article was not about the murder or the arrest, it was something like "Swede insulted my family")

When I heard ex-cop, dogs, watch-dog, "health food" business, he had gun(s?) at home, I thought it might have been a drug killing. I didn't expect insults only to lead this far. The Thai would have found some less obvious way to express his discontent before this.

Well those police you saw laughing did get a full confesion from the killer so what is your point?

[thailandsgreat]

I reacted to the picture in Bangkok Post yesterday (link not allowed here). It showed the suspect sitting relaxed among police officers. It seemed he was making jokes with some police officers and they laughed! (And the internet link name of the article was not about the murder or the arrest, it was something like "Swede insulted my family")

When I heard ex-cop, dogs, watch-dog, "health food" business, he had gun(s?) at home, I thought it might have been a drug killing. I didn't expect insults only to lead this far. The Thai would have found some less obvious way to express his discontent before this.

Well those police you saw laughing did get a full confesion from the killer so what is your point?

Police usually don't publish pictures where they seem to interact in a relaxed way with a murder suspect. Here they seem to laugh together with the suspect at some kind of joke.

[ClutchClark]

I reacted to the picture in Bangkok Post yesterday (link not allowed here). It showed the suspect sitting relaxed among police officers. It seemed he was making jokes with some police officers and they laughed! (And the internet link name of the article was not about the murder or the arrest, it was something like "Swede insulted my family")

When I heard ex-cop, dogs, watch-dog, "health food" business, he had gun(s?) at home, I thought it might have been a drug killing. I didn't expect insults only to lead this far. The Thai would have found some less obvious way to express his discontent before this.

Well those police you saw laughing did get a full confesion from the killer so what is your point?

Police usually don't publish pictures where they seem to interact in a relaxed way with a murder suspect. Here they seem to laugh together with the suspect at some kind of joke.

Oh, I got you.

Surprisingly, Its not as uncommon as it might seem anywhere in the world.

The police are in good spirits because they got their man and their superiors will be pleased since it was a farang that was murdered and had received some publicity.

Cajoling with a suspect is also an interrogation technique that can be quite effective to get the guy to relax and say too much. Far more common than the good cop/bad cop Hollywood thing.

Sometimes the cops are just laughing that a guy can be so stupid as to confess but here in Thailand the confession appears to be part of the custom. (Did I read it reduces the sentence by half?)

Edited July 24, 2016 by ClutchClark

[ta158]

I live in Philippines and the cases of foreigners being murdered are extremely low but reading all this in Thailand it does seem a very regular occurance not a particularly friendly place is it. I was coming to live there but the visa crap and all these deaths and beatings is putting me off I have to say. Chiang mai was my chosen destination maybe its safer there

but but everyone says that philippines is way more dangerous than thailand?

[thailandsgreat]

I live in Philippines and the cases of foreigners being murdered are extremely low but reading all this in Thailand it does seem a very regular occurance not a particularly friendly place is it. I was coming to live there but the visa crap and all these deaths and beatings is putting me off I have to say. Chiang mai was my chosen destination maybe its safer there

but but everyone says that philippines is way more dangerous than thailand?

If you lead a normal life you will have almost no problems in Thailand. The risks are a little higher in PI. In Cebu you can walk almost any area both day or night, but many locals would probably not agree with that. There were robberies, often against Koreans that carried cash. Knives or guns had been used. But that was in taxi from entertainment areas. I never heard of anyone being hurt.

Many of the "foreigner killed" stories in the PI newspapers (the Star and the Sun I think they were called) were probably fake. If you checked them up, they could not be verified.

The risk of violence is a little higher in PI, but not extremely. With a normal life you will survive PI too.

Traffic is more disorganized in PI, but slower and drivers are used to obstacles in the road. The Thai highways are more dangerous, there the SUVs brake for no one.

This all counts if you don't to Basilan, Jolo, Zulu, Tawi-Tawi Cotabato del Sur where I would say risk of kidnapping by AbuSayyaf is "considerable" to say the very least!

And I cant speak about Manila by night, I don't know that situation.

Edited July 24, 2016 by thailandsgreat

[gk10002000]

My advice is "Do not fight with Thai people" here!!!

If you are involved in feud with Thais,they will mostly fight back.It is about "clean face" as well.

We should try not to provoke any dispute and live our life peaceful here!!!

It does happened at" west " as well,even more often than here in many so called "high developed countries"!!!

As far as I read news here,most crimes and death attacks are cos. passion here,not money!!!

Sound practical advice but I would also add that many Thais know that in general they will not be held liable nor prosecuted nor suffer any consequences for committing crimes against foreigners. Foreigners have few recourses with any teeth if things go wrong.

[Bender]

I reacted to the picture in Bangkok Post yesterday (link not allowed here). It showed the suspect sitting relaxed among police officers. It seemed he was making jokes with some police officers and they laughed! (And the internet link name of the article was not about the murder or the arrest, it was something like "Swede insulted my family")

When I heard ex-cop, dogs, watch-dog, "health food" business, he had gun(s?) at home, I thought it might have been a drug killing. I didn't expect insults only to lead this far. The Thai would have found some less obvious way to express his discontent before this.

So he got murdered because he insulted someone?

An ederly guy lose his life because of a verbal argument? Complete madness, completely disgusting!

And of course, the keystone cop are laughing with the killer, because the victim was a farang...

[ClutchClark]

I reacted to the picture in Bangkok Post yesterday (link not allowed here). It showed the suspect sitting relaxed among police officers. It seemed he was making jokes with some police officers and they laughed! (And the internet link name of the article was not about the murder or the arrest, it was something like "Swede insulted my family")

When I heard ex-cop, dogs, watch-dog, "health food" business, he had gun(s?) at home, I thought it might have been a drug killing. I didn't expect insults only to lead this far. The Thai would have found some less obvious way to express his discontent before this.

So he got murdered because he insulted someone?

An ederly guy lose his life because of a verbal argument? Complete madness, completely disgusting!

And of course, the keystone cop are laughing with the killer, because the victim was a farang...

To be fair, we really don't know why they appear to be laughing with the victim.

[thailandsgreat]

I reacted to the picture in Bangkok Post yesterday (link not allowed here). It showed the suspect sitting relaxed among police officers. It seemed he was making jokes with some police officers and they laughed! (And the internet link name of the article was not about the murder or the arrest, it was something like "Swede insulted my family")

When I heard ex-cop, dogs, watch-dog, "health food" business, he had gun(s?) at home, I thought it might have been a drug killing. I didn't expect insults only to lead this far. The Thai would have found some less obvious way to express his discontent before this.

So he got murdered because he insulted someone?

An ederly guy lose his life because of a verbal argument? Complete madness, completely disgusting!

And of course, the keystone cop are laughing with the killer, because the victim was a farang...

(I added boldface.)

I agree, it doesn't fit. The Thai ought to to have found other ways to deal with this before he brought out a shot gun.

I could well be wrong but when I read the article and see the picture of the laughing cops, I just don't think the story fits.

OK, they may appear like the Keystone cops, but not every one is like that.

The neighbor woke up (or didn't sleep at all, if the information about speed pills is true), decided enough is enough and went to slay his neighbor? The victim also had a gun at home and tried to defend himself.

I have no proof for my hunch. But I guess this could have been a drug related killing. The victim could have been in the drug business. The accused in the picture is taking the fall and gets a lenient punishment. Are we even sure it is the immediate neighbor?

Now let's see. Where should I go and present this theory? The police? The relatives of the victim? ... I think I just drop it. I also admit I have no proof. I just put down a fanciful whim. Tomorrow I will have forgotten it.

Edited July 25, 2016 by thailandsgreat

[Agent Sumo]

My advice is "Do not fight with Thai people" here!!!

If you are involved in feud with Thais,they will mostly fight back.It is about "clean face" as well.

We should try not to provoke any dispute and live our life peaceful here!!!

It does happened at" west " as well,even more often than here in many so called "high developed countries"!!!

As far as I read news here,most crimes and death attacks are cos. passion here,not money!!!

Sound practical advice but I would also add that many Thais know that in general they will not be held liable nor prosecuted nor suffer any consequences for committing crimes against foreigners. Foreigners have few recourses with any teeth if things go wrong.

Bullshit

Thais don't know they won't be prosecuted for committing crimes against foreigners

[thailandsgreat]

According to information in a Swedish forum, in the 90's, the guy screwed around with other guys' wives and logically had disagreements with their husbands. He also sold a blind watchdog to a security guard which might have been the reason he had to quit his police job.

My humble guess is that we are looking at more than insults here.

Edited July 29, 2016 by thailandsgreat

[metisdead]

Off topic posts about Koh Tao have been removed as well as the replies.