Destiny1990 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 When will Pattaya gets its first pedestrian tunnel? example most of car traffic jams near walkingstreet entrance are caused by tourists crossing and walking standing in big crowds on the roads on their way to the song teaws and or their tourbus etc.Solution dig 2 small pedestrian tunnels connecting Several sides underground with eachother right infront WS entrance.If no one would cross the road u get a much better flow and much less chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 You got to be kidding? Have you seen the rats in that area? That is the safest location to cross, all the vehicles are at a standstill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Have you been smoking something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pungdo Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 There were all sorts of Rat bags claiming the new Sukhumvit Rd tunnel would flood, which of course is not going to happen, but tunnels along Beach Rd would 100% fill with water, the road does every time there is a storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 8 hours ago, Destiny1990 said: When will Pattaya gets its first pedestrian tunnel? example most of car traffic jams near walkingstreet entrance are caused by tourists crossing and walking standing in big crowds on the roads on their way to the song teaws and or their tourbus etc I dont think that tourists cause the jams there. It's the double-parked Bahtbuses and taxis on the corner that cause the jams. The proof is that when they put a policeman there to move vehicles on then within seconds there is no jam at all: it happened a couple of months ago after a "crackdown". Trouble is they only do it once in a blue moon and it only lasts a week or so. Solution: put a policeman there permanently and ensure that he issues big tickets (ie 2,000B instant fine) to any vehicle driver that even thinks about stopping there. Put the policeman on commission perhaps. Have tow-trucks standing by and use them, with fines of 10,000B to get the vehicle released. The jams will disappear instantly. Thailand suffers from a complete lack of rule enforcement, not from a lack of rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The entrance area needs a total re-do--it's an unsightly mess now with no pedestrian control--but I don't think a tunnel is a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 minute ago, newnative said: The entrance area needs a total re-do--it's an unsightly mess now with no pedestrian control--but I don't think a tunnel is a solution. City Hall could buy the building on the corner and demolish it. That would go a long way to alleviating the chaos at that corner as it would allow for a much larger footpath (sidewalk) to be constructed on the opposite two sides and would make the turning circle much easier for large vehicles. Currently there is barely any footpath at all. I suspect that it would be a bit expensive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, KittenKong said: I dont think that tourists cause the jams there. It's the double-parked Bahtbuses and taxis on the corner that cause the jams. The proof is that when they put a policeman there to move vehicles on then within seconds there is no jam at all: it happened a couple of months ago after a "crackdown". Trouble is they only do it once in a blue moon and it only lasts a week or so. Solution: put a policeman there permanently and ensure that he issues big tickets (ie 2,000B instant fine) to any vehicle driver that even thinks about stopping there. Put the policeman on commission perhaps. Have tow-trucks standing by and use them, with fines of 10,000B to get the vehicle released. The jams will disappear instantly. Thailand suffers from a complete lack of rule enforcement, not from a lack of rules. Well its a combination of course but pedestrians crowds are walking back forward non stop and that is clearly contributing to the chaos and yes why are these Song teaws parked again claiming the public road as their office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, KittenKong said: City Hall could buy the building on the corner and demolish it. That would go a long way to alleviating the chaos at that corner as it would allow for a much larger footpath (sidewalk) to be constructed on the opposite two sides and would make the turning circle much easier for large vehicles. Currently there is barely any footpath at all. I suspect that it would be a bit expensive though. Great idea. Considering it's a major tourist attraction it's hard to believe how lousy the entrance is--even the letters on the sign are crooked. Major work needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Just now, newnative said: Considering it's a major tourist attraction it's hard to believe how lousy the entrance is--even the letters on the sign are crooked. Part of the charm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 2 hours ago, thailand49 said: You got to be kidding? Have you seen the rats in that area? That is the safest location to cross, all the vehicles are at a standstill. Exactly what rats at WS are u talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, newnative said: Great idea. Considering it's a major tourist attraction it's hard to believe how lousy the entrance is--even the letters on the sign are crooked. Major work needed. Well the lovely green tropical park on the 2 hours ago, Pungdo said: There were all sorts of Rat bags claiming the new Sukhumvit Rd tunnel would flood, which of course is not going to happen, but tunnels along Beach Rd would 100% fill with water, the road does every time there is a storm. To make a simple pedestrian tunnel waterproof is an easy job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epidemiologist Dave Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Pedestrian tunnels in Pattaya = lady boy muggers paradise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 Just now, DavetheGreek said: Pedestrian tunnels in Pattaya = lady boy muggers paradise. U being pessimistic this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 No it's not. It's a tight corner and the tour buses have a tough time turning. Add that to the slow lights at 2nd road and it's gridlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epidemiologist Dave Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: U being pessimistic this morning. No. Realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, DavetheGreek said: No. Realistic. We talking about a couple of 8-10 meters long pedestrian tunnels even well lit.u really think u be more safe crossing the roads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 When they decide that they want an underwater canal.The present drains are so poorly constructed in Pattaya and never maintained that keeping a walking tunnel there would be impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) So it can fill with water when it rains. Lol put ramps in so the motorbikes can use. Edited May 13, 2017 by ToddinChonburi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 51 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: Exactly what rats at WS are u talking about? Got to get your head out of the gutter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, thailand49 said: Got to get your head out of the gutter? Och those rats they wont use our pedestrian tunnels they dig their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Star Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 By allowing vehicles to exit Beach road BEFORE the corner to second road would help. The one way streets prevent that now, forcing all traffic to go around the corner, and not many want to go through Boyztown to get out of there. Still, the best solution is to have police issue fines to keep the double parked vehicles from jamming up the road. Pedestrians are not the issue, as you can usually walk faster than the traffic going through there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said: U being pessimistic this morning. Not at all. Just being realistic. Underpasses are not a Thai thing. Overpasses are OK as in the open. Anything closed like a tunnel will attract the muggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, DavetheGreek said: Pedestrian tunnels in Pattaya = lady boy muggers paradise. my first image was of a tunnel with foot path filled with working folks and maybe a food stahl. <deleted> ? floods, rats, expenses, and a HUGE deficiency in construction expertise is why there is no tunnel in Pattaya or many places in Thailand whrere there might be. Thailand has not yet figured out plumbing. Go into any hotel and smell the lovely bathrooms draining almost anywhere. The most spectacular example is the Okura Hotel which was supposed to be the firs GREEN hotel (whatever that means) and the bathrooms still stink out the restaurants and lobby which is beautiful and on 12th floor. Dont over reach it. lets start small. sh*t runs downhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jippytum Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Some hope .Every tunnel if not flooded would be full of low life offering all kinds of service .I would rather take my chance with the traffic above ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Gold Star said: By allowing vehicles to exit Beach road BEFORE the corner to second road would help. The one way streets prevent that now, forcing all traffic to go around the corner, and not many want to go through Boyztown to get out of there. Still, the best solution is to have police issue fines to keep the double parked vehicles from jamming up the road. Pedestrians are not the issue, as you can usually walk faster than the traffic going through there anyway. LOL. You are considering the possibility that those involved in town planning ( that is an oxymoron ) in Pattaya understand such a concept, the interest in making it happen, and the concern to consider such a possibility in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pungdo Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Destiny1990 said: To make a simple pedestrian tunnel waterproof is an easy job. They can't even stop a road right beside the ocean from flooding, how they going to stop a tunnel under said road from filling with water, TiT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Not at all. Just being realistic. Underpasses are not a Thai thing. Overpasses are OK as in the open. Anything closed like a tunnel will attract the muggers. Usually tunnels have a observation camera and sufficient lights even in the 8 meter tunnels.look if u so scared getting robbed just stay in u room forever and lock u door geezer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Pungdo said: They can't even stop a road right beside the ocean from flooding, how they going to stop a tunnel under said road from filling with water, TiT There are ways my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Minnehaha said: my first image was of a tunnel with foot path filled with working folks and maybe a food stahl. <deleted> ? floods, rats, expenses, and a HUGE deficiency in construction expertise is why there is no tunnel in Pattaya or many places in Thailand whrere there might be. Thailand has not yet figured out plumbing. Go into any hotel and smell the lovely bathrooms draining almost anywhere. The most spectacular example is the Okura Hotel which was supposed to be the firs GREEN hotel (whatever that means) and the bathrooms still stink out the restaurants and lobby which is beautiful and on 12th floor. Dont over reach it. lets start small. sh*t runs downhill. Well the 150 meter vehicle tunnel on sukumvit begins to look solid so then a 8-10 meters pedestrians only tunnel cant be more complicated right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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