Sharp tax hike on alcohol and tobacco effective immediately

[Media1]

On 9/16/2017 at 10:46 AM, maeab101 said:

This is good news for Thailand.

You are a funny man. Robbing the public for bad management of government spending is not good news. You should ask the people for there verdict lol. 

Good news is a election 

[opalred]

just had a bottle of my new price leo

taste different and left sour taste in mouth

[grollies]

Just now, opalred said:

just had a bottle of my new price leo

taste different and left sour taste in mouth

so how much had it gone up?

[Media1]

They raised the prices when they first took control and promised happiness to the people. 

This is just daylight robbery due to a amature. Hit and miss style government. Not even 10% would vote for this stand in so called government. First they drove out white faring with stupid VISA requirements and now extortion style taxes on personal selections. Just mamsans in uniform. And they won't last long. 

[grollies]

2 hours ago, Spellforce said:

Yes... 584 Bahts at Big C (pack 12x 630ml Leo Beer):

https://www.bigc.co.th/search/?q=leo+beer

the big bottles of Leo we buy are 620ml @ B570/12 bottle case.

[Techno Viking]

3 minutes ago, grollies said:

the big bottles of Leo we buy are 620ml @ B570/12 bottle case.

I paid 560 a box yesterday.

 

[HHTel]

17 minutes ago, bannork said:

Some of the this info came from a translated article from news Sanook which was printed on Thai Visa on Friday-

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1002318-its-a-wait-and-see-game-smokers-and-drinkers-will-discover-tax-fate-on-saturday/?page=1

The news about the increase for retailers came from  a Bangkok Post opinion article last Friday.

Oh.  Really trusted sources then.  The article you referred to quoted 40 baht on cigarettes and beer going from 41 baht to 78 baht!

Very believable ....... not!

[bannork]

2 minutes ago, HHTel said:

Oh.  Really trusted sources then.  The article you referred to quoted 40 baht on cigarettes and beer going from 41 baht to 78 baht!

Very believable ....... not!

I hope you are right but Post today quoted the same prices for licences saying it will drive small retailers out of the market. The only glimmer of hope I read was that the 50,000 baht was a ceiling.

https://www.posttoday.com/biz/news/514919

[Sydebolle]

It remains anyone's guess how much money in millions of Baht the local whisky mafia poured into the greenies. The alcohol taxation makes absolutely no sense considering, that wines and beers are a part of the caucasian dining culture.

If Europe would be run by similar idiots one would have to vote for an increase of EUR 3 for a bottle of fish sauce while the Sriracha sauce could reach an increase of UKP 4.
Both non-alcoholic but a part of the Thai dining culture .........

Decreasing the local fruit wines (Siam Winery must be celebrating)  ........... go figure! 

[anto]

3 hours ago, Bastos60 said:

Only if it is imported.
Like all Ambev beers that are imported have far higher taxes applied to them including import tax. Those will lower by a few baht. But you will hardly notice it as the import tax is already 100 Baht a bottle. At 63 Baht your Federbrau has no import tax applied so I assume locally bottled. No less tax for you my dear friend.

Yes that makes sense .Federbrau brewed and bottled in Thailand to the German purity laws .

Edited September 17, 2017 by anto

[xylophone]

5 hours ago, LatPhrao said:

There are two or three large Thai companies that import wine in bulk from Europe or South America, finish the wine in Thailand and bottle it under their label

I think you will find that they import the grape juice then add "fruit juice/whatever" here then ferment it........thereby the wine is "produced" in Thailand (Mont Clair, Mar Y Sol, Finca de Malpica etc)........that's why it is so cheap, and will probably get even cheaper now?

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, Montnoveau said:

They are looking for quality tourists and not drunken trash. It is as simple as that.

Interesting comment..........so all of those folk who like a beer or two, or a nice wine with their meal are not quality tourists?? 

 

 

[StefanBBK]

I used to like a glass of red "vino collapso" with my supper when I lived in the UK.
I haven't bothered at all with wine here. What is the score with this "Mont Clair" stuff, is it drinkable?

As I and 2 other members just wrote today, the retail price of beer cans have not changed (Retails Shops: 7-eleven, mini Marts + Online: Tesco, Tops, Big C).
Sangsom bottle also still at the same price.
 
But... bottle's beer +2 bahts & L&M cigarettes +1 baht

no

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[sklmeeera]

On 9/16/2017 at 10:46 AM, maeab101 said:

This is good news for Thailand.

Its good news for the AA brigade of <deleted> . I even heard one say that it ws an act of God . Strewth !

[ripstanley]

2 hours ago, opalred said:

just had a bottle of my new price leo

taste different and left sour taste in mouth

Just had a couple of bottles of my old price Leo. Tasted good and no sour taste.

 

[JohnLick]

2 hours ago, Montnoveau said:

They are looking for quality tourists and not drunken trash. It is as simple as that.

Rich did not become rich by paying $50 for $5 item (bottle of wine)

[metisdead]

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[The manic]

Drinking beer in many bars in Soi 4 is nearly 7 quid a pint.

[Jonah Tenner]

8 hours ago, abrahamzvi said:

Let's take the Scandinavian countries as an example. Luxuries, particularly damaging luxuries like cigarettes and alcohol, are extremely expensive (tax) and essentials like bread, eggs etc, are cheap.

Yesterday's prices in Norway

One loaf of bread 96 B (23 NOK on special offer) 

12 eggs (1 package) 176 B (42 NOK)

1 pckg 20 cigarettes 475 B

Alcohol I have no idea,

My point is that everything, absolutely everything, is expensive in Scandinavia (VAT 25% and rising)

Edited September 17, 2017 by Jonah Tenner

[grollies]

7 minutes ago, The manic said:

Drinking beer in many bars in Soi 4 is nearly 7 quid a pint.

I don't think I've ever paid £7 a pint, anywhere. You must be loaded or have a decent expense account.

[Jonah Tenner]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

More unbelievably inane policy, from a government who's sheer incompetence boggles the imagination. Raise the taxes on wine, even more. They already have the highest wine taxes on the planet. 

 

What do incompetent politicians do, when they have a massive shortfall in revenue, and they have utterly drained the coffers, on really, really bad policy decisions? They raise taxes. It is the least creative thing any politician can do. It is also usually the least intelligent decision. Who expects any more from the little guy, and his band of nincompoops? 

 

There are countless things the government could be doing, if they wanted to attract the high quality tourists. The very first thing would be to repeal the anti fareng wine bill, that was passed by a few very corrupt senators way back when, to protect an anemic, fabulously low quality local wine industry. They are losing billions of dollars a year in revenue, that would be had from a 100% wine duty, instead of 460%. The five star hotels would have major wine events, and the entire industry would flourish here. But again, the lack of vision, combined with a naive, surly, silly, churlish, and ignorant sense of nationalism, bites the country in the butt. And again, who is the loser? The Thai people. 

 

Wine taxes should be lowered significantly. Import duties should be lowered to 70-100%. It would boost revenue. There are many Thais that are doing well, and love good wine. But, they are discouraged from drinking it, as the quality to price ration does not make any sense, for those of us who love good wine. If creative policy was implemented, not as many would cheat on the invoicing, and the wine industry would be encouraged to expand and thrive. As a result, the government would collect additional billions. But, that would require some vision, and progressive thinking. Something this administration does not possess. 

 

It is a real shame, as I find most Thai people to be quite lovely, friendly, warm, helpful and fun to be around. I am sure many feel the same way. But, unfortunately they are cursed with a government that is incompetent, myopic, non-visionary, indifferent, and reckless beyond imagination.

 

Little P. and the TAT. Leading Thailand backwards at an astonishing and alarming pace.

Governments all over do the same, they overtax everything - except their minds...

[naboo]

2 hours ago, ripstanley said:

.... Leo. Tasted good ......

 

Glad there was a full-stop between these words. I think the sky will fall in if someone put it all in one sentence.

[Montnoveau]

Interesting comment..........so all of those folk who like a beer or two, or a nice wine with their meal are not quality tourists?? 
 
 

One or two with a meal is not what I mean. Maybe ten without a meal for three weeks is not what they really want.

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[HHTel]

1 hour ago, The manic said:

Drinking beer in many bars in Soi 4 is nearly 7 quid a pint.

What?  Around 300+ a bottle!  They certainly saw you coming.  My local bar/restaurant has increased (for new stock) from 75 baht to 80 baht for a large bottle.  Beware the profiteers!!!

Edited September 17, 2017 by HHTel
Correction

[The manic]

Just now, HHTel said:

What?  Around 250+ a bottle!  They certainly saw you coming.  My local bar/restaurant has increased (for new stock) from 75 baht to 80 baht for a large bottle.  Beware the profiteers!!!

No. 150 a bottle or more in Big Dogs for local beer for example...At 44 baht to the pound that makes a pint around 6 pounds or more. Some imported beers are more expensive.

[The manic]

1 hour ago, grollies said:

I don't think I've ever paid £7 a pint, anywhere. You must be loaded or have a decent expense account.

150 to 170 for a small bottle in Big Dogs for example...So about 6 to 7 pounds a pint. I would never ever, under any circumstances drink draft beer in Thailand.

[AloisAmrein]

I recommend everybody to go to Laos and drink Beer Lao, better then any Thai brand, and cheaper.

[The manic]

3 minutes ago, AloisAmrein said:

I recommend everybody to go to Laos and drink Beer Lao, better then any Thai brand, and cheaper.

Beer Lao Dam or Kao 95 baht at the Kontiki bar ..formely Lucky Luke's....oppositte Big Dogs...Still 4 quid a pint.

[AloisAmrein]

1 minute ago, The manic said:

Beer Lao Dam or Kao 95 baht at the Kontiki bar ..formely Lucky Luke's....oppositte Big Dogs...Still 4 quid a pint.

In Laos a big bottle of Beer Lao costs 10'000 kip, what is 1.20 US$. A pack of cigarettes (local brand) with 200 cigarettes costs 3 US$.

[The manic]

9 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

so if someone doesn't buy an exorbitant LD and tequilas for all these useless hos playing on there phones, that means they still want to feel them up?

 

how do you make such  free spirited leaps of thought?

'Hos'?  Speak English Please not silly insulting, racist and sexist Ebonics...The language of illiterate gutter trash.

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Edited September 17, 2017 by The manic