Isaan Love Triangle: Thai Men Found Lacking By Farang-Loving Women

[wildewillie89]

1 minute ago, SoulWater said:

@wildewillie89
"The Mrs is set for a 45k monthly pension when retire so financial security is not an issue for her."

And you believe that? :) what was her job In Thailand?

She is a government official. Passed the test early. Her dad took early retirement at 50 and receives 32k from memory. The current status of her position vs age is greater than his, so yeah I do, and I have seen the relevant figures. If you want I will PM them to you later on. 

[JLCrab]

Well I worked hard during my 20's and 30's so that I am quite comfortable right now without anyone's assistance. I was rather proud of the work I did back then and worked in Asia for 15+ years learning several Asian languages before moving to Thailand. I don't know if I could've stomached it where my main family responsibility was showing up for dinner.

[wildewillie89]

Ahh the bitterness is now making assumptions about another's previous life before moving to the country to feel better about themselves.

You really are a bit hurt in life it seems.

Cheer up, you have that super hot girl remember, you shouldn't have to keep comparing yourself to others :)

[mommysboy]

18 minutes ago, seancbk said:

 

Why can't he have a degree at 22?   

Of course he could.  A Degree is still a higher education qualification- I suppose it depends on your definition of 'an education'.  People generally graduate at 22 and would be in debt (in UK at least).  What I'm really saying is that expats are generally excluded from most general occupations, be it working in 7-11, driving a taxi, or clerical work.

[SoulWater]

She is a government official. Passed the test early. Her dad took early retirement at 50 and receives 32k from memory. The current status of her position vs age is greater than his, so yeah I do, and I have seen the relevant figures. If you want I will PM them to you later on. 

Don't worry I don't need any figures PMd that would just be weird in any case - that was going to be my next question only someone who worked for the government could retire with a pension like that - my responses will now cease for fear of reprisals :)

[JLCrab]

I have a great life here. No bitterness. This is a forum. When someone seems to feel the need to almost weekly make a post about getting free healthcare because of his wife's job, I wonder what the h*&^ll the guy thinks that is such a great accomplishment.

[wildewillie89]

45 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

I have a great life here. No bitterness. This is a forum. When someone seems to feel the need to almost weekly make a post about getting free healthcare because of his wife's job, I wonder what the h*&^ll the guy thinks that is such a great accomplishment.

Who said it was an accomplishment? Your interpretation? Again, that is an issue on your end, not mine. 

The discussion was about how young farang can manage to live in Thailand? That is a key factor for many young farang that I know. So the healthcare is completely relevant.

Weekly? If we talk weekly, you have literally just mentioned your CV once again (which is not relevant to the discussion). 

What I find odd is that you place great importance on a CV, always talking about yours even though it isn't relevant to anything and making up other members CV to compare it to. Insecurity or a lame attempt at a put down to others?

However, every time the CV of my wife comes up, whether it be a social thread or members are asking for advice re government issues (and are appreciative of the advice), you go all negative and jump in when it has nothing to do with you. 

Why is it that if CVs are so important to you,  you have major psychological issues with good CVs? Even though we have found hypocrisy in your posts and it is questioned, you claim you are not a hypocrite. Now you claim you are not bitter. You say you are not bored....so really what is left? Sexism? Is that why you feel the need to jump into my posts that involve my wife? You cannot handle a woman having a great CV? Oh, please tell me it is not haha.  

Anyway, I was just filling in time with this last part (sorry for the length). Time to go home for my 'dinner' responsibilities as you like to call them :). You were entertaining for a while, but seem even more bitter now, as you keep feeling the need to butt in every time I make a comment. Gave me a good chuckle for a while. Enjoy your trolling. At least I hope it is trolling (as I do love a good troll).

Edited December 1, 2017 by wildewillie89

[JLCrab]

3 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said:

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However, every time the CV of my wife comes up, 
<snip2>

Nothing wrong with your wife's CV coming up it''s just that yours never does.

[madusa]

In the past the Thai ladies did not have any farangs to compare with their husbands. They were sort of happy life goes on as usual, then suddenly all these farangs showing them how a good husband should behave. Now this becomes a big problem soon it will get even bigger. Because Thai men may retaliate, I don't know what they would do, but not something nice I supposed.

If only we can leave the Thai alone with their own culture and thinking. Minimum interfering in their lives style we would be doing them a lot of good.

Culture once broken cannot be repair. How many have you broke?

If you google "Sir James Brooke of Sarawak (Borneo)" you will see how this English gentleman who became the ruler of a native country(1875) where he made laws that forbid anyone to interfer in the life style of the natives. He did not allow big companies to be set up to employ natives to work there and change their lifestyle. He was a good man.

[Stevemercer]

Thai men are not going to get jealous of farangs. While there may be a few individual cases, it is not in the culture or nature of Buddhism to be jealous of someone with money, better education or who is otherwise better off.

 

Thai men aren't worried about farang competition for Thai women. There are more than enough women to go around and they/we are rarely competing for the same sort of woman. 

[bazza73]

2 hours ago, mommysboy said:

Of course he could.  A Degree is still a higher education qualification- I suppose it depends on your definition of 'an education'.  People generally graduate at 22 and would be in debt (in UK at least).  What I'm really saying is that expats are generally excluded from most general occupations, be it working in 7-11, driving a taxi, or clerical work.

You've reminded me of a friend of mine who does IT for a living. He refers to PhD's as Piled Higher and Deeper. As I've had a few Ph.D's myself for breakfast, I can understand where he's coming from on the subject of tertiary qualifications. Nothing beats experience.

[connda]

Unfortunately, a number of these gals hold on to their relationships with Thai guys as they milk the farang sugar--daddy.  

[mommysboy]

1 hour ago, bazza73 said:

You've reminded me of a friend of mine who does IT for a living. He refers to PhD's as Piled Higher and Deeper. As I've had a few Ph.D's myself for breakfast, I can understand where he's coming from on the subject of tertiary qualifications. Nothing beats experience.

Yeah, I'm ambivalent about higher qualifications meaning much, but you need them to get near a work permit for even something as humble as TEFL teaching.  A younger expat, or someone without a decent pension will find it nigh on impossible to get employment otherwise. I guess he could do well as a digital nomad if he has some skill.

Edited December 1, 2017 by mommysboy

[Media1]

On 30/11/2017 at 11:58 PM, seancbk said:

 

So are you saying you don't know any well educated, wealthy Thais?   Not one Thai friend who has a successful business and has sent his kids to school overseas? 

You must move in some really impressive circles.

I work on the majority not minority. Where talking Isann. High volume desperation to get money. Daughters are a blessing 

[JLCrab]

16 hours ago, wildewillie89 said:

<snip> Now you claim you are not bitter. You say you are not bored....so really what is left? <snip2>

 

[drgoon]

On 12/1/2017 at 2:52 PM, SoulWater said:

This is classic - so as a 73 year old man you are saying you have never given anything to your 46 year old wife? You must be trolling dude

Sent from my SM-J710F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

No he didn't say that....

 

If you read it again maybe you would get the gist of his post

[Get Real]

On 2017-11-30 at 7:08 AM, Boon Mee said:

Well, it's because the Farang have more money? 

Not ? rocket surgery here... 

 

I guess you didn´t read at all. 

[GuySemperFi]

On 11/30/2017 at 12:33 AM, trogers said:

Lack the freedom to wander too far from mom's apron strings.

This reminds me of something a Thai freind told her daughter, who has a suitor who owns a farm in Isaan. If you marry him you will never leave Isaan, and your life will be a house wife, and in duty to him. But if you get with a farang you can see the world.

[trogers]

1 minute ago, GuySemperFi said:

This reminds me of something a Thai freind told her daughter, who has a suitor who owns a farm in Isaan. If you marry him you will never leave Isaan, and your life will be a house wife, and in duty to him. But if you get with a farang you can see the world.

Not just a housewife, but has to work the farm while he lies on a hammock or drinks and gamble with his friends.

[elgenon]

A lot of girls who work in the bars have had a baby with a Thai man who then moved on to the next girl. They have little education and have a baby and parents to take care of.

[rickudon]

In my Isaan village there are many girls looking for a farang. Main factors are they are over 30, many have failed relationships with Thai men and children (but not all). Commonest factor is lack of good employment. They have reached an age where they realise that their dreams are just that - dreams. And their prospects of getting anywhere in Thai society small. Sure, there are jobs, but in Isaan rarely more than minimum wage. You cannot build much of a future on that these days - every thing is relatively more expensive. My father-in-law as a small scale rice and pig farmer was able to buy a fair bit of land years ago, and build a house. I very much doubt anyone in the same position could do that now. 

 

So we offer the best chance for girls over 30 with dead end jobs. Only a few have gone the bargirl route, most these days find their man online. Some girls have cynically ripped off their farang partners, but most haven't. However, getting to that better life is not cheap, and farang will find plenty of needs to meet. I doubt that most Thai girls look actively for farangs when younger, unless they already have big problems, but as they get older they see a more stable, comfortable existence with us. I doubt it is love at first sight, but many are quite content and do love their partners.

[carbide]

In her village, the girls who got a farang, got other farangs
for their girlfriends, to the point where all the young men and boys in the village,
have nothing.
It has changed the demographic,
and not for the better.

[Rhys]

cycle it and then hash it .. same old assertions...

[The Teacher]

Well, it's not rocket science to work out that Thai men are the lazy SOB around and expect the women to do all the work, while they drink and gamble. Who blames the Thai females for wanting a better life, sure most farangs are the best option, money, good looks, respect and most likely better lovemaking techniques, for sure. So in all the Thai men are a bunch of losers again, hehehehehehehehe 

[OneMoreFarang]

On ‎03‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 8:58 PM, rickudon said:

In my Isaan village there are many girls looking for a farang. Main factors are they are over 30, many have failed relationships with Thai men and children (but not all).

I wonder how many of them will be able to have a happy long term relationship - even if the Thai women and the farang men try their best. If the women spend most of their 30+ years of life in a village they will be very different from most farangs who lived in their home countries. Both will have lots of unspoken expectations and these expectation will be often very different from each other. One of the most important differences is "taking care of the family". He thinks he marries her, she knows he marries her and her extended family... Good luck with that!

[mommysboy]

14 hours ago, The Teacher said:

Well, it's not rocket science to work out that Thai men are the lazy SOB around and expect the women to do all the work, while they drink and gamble. Who blames the Thai females for wanting a better life, sure most farangs are the best option, money, good looks, respect and most likely better lovemaking techniques, for sure. So in all the Thai men are a bunch of losers again, hehehehehehehehe 

The elephant in the room is advanced age with expanded waist line  A lot of expats are big boozers too.

[foxteen]

On 30/11/2017 at 1:20 PM, flyingdoc said:

Money has always proved to be an attraction!

'It's about money and muscles'  Farang and Thai ..OMG  

 

[foxteen]

On 30/11/2017 at 8:38 PM, nausea said:

Thai men don't find Issan women attractive, whilst Farangs do. Women need to feel loved.

ohhhhhh is that true  .no money..no honey 

[nausea]

55 minutes ago, foxteen said:

ohhhhhh is that true  .no money..no honey 

True to a certain extent ... at the end of the day Issan women are women. I haven't found a woman yet who didn't want to be loved ... by her family, by her partner, by her children ... Thank God I'm a man. The money is a side issue so far as most women are concerned, which is a big part of the problem, cos for us it's the main issue.

Edited December 5, 2017 by nausea
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[johncat1]

Money is the initial motivator and attraction But when the money runs out how many Thai women stick around ?. VERY FEW 

BUT saying that I had money when I first came to Thailand but my first Thai wife soon put an end to that. Several years later I met a women who was university educated and worked in a government office We are still together after 7 years despite being almost broke.

SO yes in short, there are still many good Thai women out there who do not put money first.