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BREAKING: Bodies of 4 babies found dumped in trash in Hua Hin


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Posted
2 hours ago, HHTel said:

They were fetuses.

 

Abortion/termination has been legal in Thailand for more than a decade.  Even the 'abortion pill' as accepted as legal in 2014.  Valid reasons for abortion are pretty much the same as in the west.  i.e. health, rape, and socio-economic.  Applicants are counseled first just the same.

Please inform the UN also about that since they keep publishing reports saying otherwise (referring to sections 301-305 of the Thai penal code).

Abortion is only legal in case of rape and in case the health of the mother is in danger (which can be extended to emotional health).

 

Not sure how it is in the west, but in my home country you can do an abortion until 24 weeks and there has to be no reason otherwise than "i don't want a baby".

Posted
19 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

OK point taken, but there's also plenty of cases in the past of unauthorized / illegal abortion clinics in Thailand being raided and .....

And what? Again I will state a 2 month old child is NOT a fetus. Are you implying that a clinic performed an illegal late term abortion where the fetuses were actually fully developed children and allowed to live several months before being destroyed? 

 

I tend to think you have been reading too much propaganda put out by the right to birth fanatics

Posted
Just now, Grumpy Duck said:

And what? Again I will state a 2 month old child is NOT a fetus. Are you implying that a clinic performed an illegal late term abortion where the fetuses were actually fully developed children and allowed to live several months before being destroyed? 

 

I tend to think you have been reading too much propaganda put out by the right to birth fanatics

2 months old would be a very late stage abortion indeed. The progressives are probably working on that though.

 

Anyhow, there has been copious postings here saying that this disposal of fetuses. The OP article was wrong. 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, transam said:

I think your post was way out of order bringing your religious stuff into a heartbreaking topic, but if that is your "thing" it has been read by all....:sad:

I'm broken up by you thoughts, totally devastated, but they are only your opinion and I'll get over it (probably by the time I type the full stop after this). 

 

Clearly if I post a comment on a public forum I don't need you to point out that it can be (not 'has been') read by all.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, HHTel said:

It alters the story somewhat.  This was not murder carried out on babies but the result of illegal abortions.

The debate on when a fetus becomes a child will carry on regardless.

 

"The debate on when a fetus becomes a child will carry on regardless."

 

    Sure.... but how about the debate on when a human fetus becomes a human ? ? 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Catoni said:

 

"The debate on when a fetus becomes a child will carry on regardless."

 

            Sure.... but how about the debate on when a fetus becomes a human ? ? 

Fetus can be applied to any mammal.

 

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an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

As already stated, these were human fetuses.  And that's all I'll say on the subject.

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Posted

This is very sad and just as sad as the 3000 aborted babies a day in The U.S.  Every life is precious and what many abortion clinics do in America is more sickening than what happened to these precious babies.

 

 

My hope is that everyone responsible will come to a realization of how horrible this is and realize how precious each life is.

 

R.I.P every aborted  baby.....

Posted
1 minute ago, HHTel said:

Fetus can be applied to any mammal.

 

As already stated, these were human fetuses.  And that's all I'll say on the subject.

     

    "Fetus can be applied to any mammal".

 

   That's true... I agree.   But this thread is talking about human fetuses...  My mistake for not making that clear. 

   

   So then... ""The debate on when a fetus becomes a child will carry on regardless."

 

  Yes... .. but how about the debate on when an alive human fetus becomes a living human ? ? 

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I have just read the Thai visa page it does not mention a foetus it says four bodies of babies aged 8 weeks to 4 months found for all the slanging that is going on does it really matter  what age they are it is horrific just wrapped in plastic and thrown in a bin very sad . 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Miss Pickle said:

I have just read the Thai visa page it does not mention a foetus it says four bodies of babies aged 8 weeks to 4 months found for all the slanging that is going on does it really matter  what age they are it is horrific just wrapped in plastic and thrown in a bin very sad . 

Do keep up!

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Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, Dave67 said:

Sort of lost for words this one, what state of mind can someone be in to do something so hideous 

To be expected in a  country forbidding abortion In a  country with a huge amount of  unnecessary teen pregnancies despite  cheap availability of contraception, in a country where religion rules their daily  life, in a country stuck in the dark ages.

Edit  didnt  realise abortion was now  legal, well at least some  improvement

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Posted
2 hours ago, Just Weird said:

How can babies aged between 8 weeks and 4 months be aborted?

have you actually been following the thread - carefully ?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

To be expected in a  country forbidding abortion In a  country with a huge amount of  unnecessary teen pregnancies despite  cheap availability of contraception, in a country where religion rules their daily  life, in a country stuck in the dark ages.

Abortion is perfectly legal in Thailand and has been for more than 10 years.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Catoni said:

 

  Yes... .. but how about the debate on when an alive human fetus becomes a living human ? ? 

One for the "religious" to mull over.

 

To me. IMHO, when the 'entity' can sustain life on it own accord, human or otherwise. :coffee1:

Posted
19 hours ago, manarak said:

until more is known about how these babies ended up dead and in the trash, any comment is totally unfounded.

They were found in the trash, I think there is nothing wrong with commenting on this heinous act, damn you can not get any lower than that

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, car720 said:

Thank you.  I stand corrected.

That did not take long did it

Now pass it on to one or two of the others

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Posted
19 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Were they really dead babies aged between 8 weeks and 4 months? Other reports I've read say they were foetuses at between 8 weeks and 4 months development. There's quite a difference.

obviously a translation issue

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Posted
2 hours ago, Grumpy Duck said:

And what? Again I will state a 2 month old child is NOT a fetus. Are you implying that a clinic performed an illegal late term abortion where the fetuses were actually fully developed children and allowed to live several months before being destroyed? 

 

"I tend to think you have been reading too much propaganda put out by the right to birth fanatics"

 

Actually your wrong, in fact I haven't given any personal opinion in this thread about abortion.

 

 

 

" tend to think you have been reading too much propaganda put out by the right to birth fanatics

Posted
16 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

Thais love morbid photos.  My Thai girlfriend is showing me the uncensored photos this morning on Facebook of the dead babies lying on the ground.  I had no idea what she was going to show me. I am like "Honey please, I don't want to see dead babies right now, thanks." So she is swiping away and says "Look! See? Many photos."

 

RIP little babies.

 

Yeah, one of those cultural things, I will never learn to understand. Don’t worry they will be shared on your timeline soon ;-)

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I do hope the police assign diligent and competent officers to investigate.

These poor little souls deserve to have the police provide real detective work

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