Briton, 67, arrested for robbery at luxury Bangkok hotel

[Justfine]

3 minutes ago, Petchou said:

Poor Brits,. I understand they can no longer have decent life back home, but don't bring your trouble here.  :-)

Why was the 69yo picking up a 67yo?

[balo]

The pic doesn't look like a 67 year old or is that just me?

Probably a typo, he looks like 47 .

[lilcute9]

tired of hearing; robbery here, robbery there, death here death there, pedophilia here n there. <deleted> is wrong with these 'WHITE SKINS'!!!

[Justfine]

23 minutes ago, lilcute9 said:

tired of hearing; robbery here, robbery there, death here death there, pedophilia here n there. <deleted> is wrong with these 'WHITE SKINS'!!!

He looks brown

[Sir Dude]

Begs the question of how long this Lane guy has been scamming and robbing to survive...kick his arse out after a little of the famous local hospitality on this front.

[ttrd]

5 hours ago, Justfine said:

Why was the 69yo picking up a 67yo?

He was not picking him up - the 67yrs accidently (or planned) met him in the lift and the 69yrs followed after him to his room...

 

READ - Travers told police that he was returning to his room on the 25th floor at 1am after drinking at the lobby bar on the ground floor and met Lane in the lift.

 

He said Lane walked after him and, after he had opened the door to his room, pushed him inside, tied his hands and covered his face with a mask.

Edited February 20, 2018 by ttrd

[sambum]

10 minutes ago, ttrd said:

He was not picking him up - the 67yrs accidently (or planned) met him in the lift and the 69yrs followed after him to his room...

 

READ - Travers told police that he was returning to his room on the 25th floor at 1am after drinking at the lobby bar on the ground floor and met Lane in the lift.

 

He said Lane walked after him and, after he had opened the door to his room, pushed him inside, tied his hands and covered his face with a mask.

Some people don't read  - just jump to conclusions!

[GOLDBUGGY]

On 2/19/2018 at 2:04 PM, sammieuk1 said:

Is he on 39 years over stay I wonder ? and this his full time work to fund it ? 

If the Post is correct he is 67 Years Old now, and lived in Thailand for 40 years. So he was only 27 years old when he first moved here to stay. 

 

Not too many people I know who are only 27 years old and can already afford to Retire for 40 Years. So he either had a job here this long or?????

[Rc2702]

11 hours ago, balo said:

 

Probably a typo, he looks like 47 .

 

Yh he retired at 7 years old and has been here 40 years!

[Justfine]

11 hours ago, ttrd said:

He was not picking him up - the 67yrs accidently (or planned) met him in the lift and the 69yrs followed after him to his room...

 

READ - Travers told police that he was returning to his room on the 25th floor at 1am after drinking at the lobby bar on the ground floor and met Lane in the lift.

 

He said Lane walked after him and, after he had opened the door to his room, pushed him inside, tied his hands and covered his face with a mask.

That was his story.

[Justfine]

11 hours ago, sambum said:

Some people don't read  - just jump to conclusions!

You believe everything you read 555

[Justfine]

5 hours ago, GOLDBUGGY said:

If the Post is correct he is 67 Years Old now, and lived in Thailand for 40 years. So he was only 27 years old when he first moved here to stay. 

 

Not too many people I know who are only 27 years old and can already afford to Retire for 40 Years. So he either had a job here this long or?????

Maybe he dyes his hair. Face is blurred so age hard to determine. Could be anywear from 40 to 70.

[steven100]

always look behind you before opening your hotel room door ...

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, steven100 said:

always look behind you before opening your hotel room door ...

Hard not to notice someone following. Story doesn't add up.

[oldlakey]

4 minutes ago, Justfine said:

You believe everything you read 555

Of course if its posted on Thaivisa, don't you

[Justfine]

Just now, oldlakey said:

Of course if its posted on Thaivisa, don't you

5555

 

TV CSI

 

Case closed

[steven100]

2 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Hard not to notice someone following. Story doesn't add up.

agree .... even after 10 beers I still look who's watching when opening my hotel room door.  Did he chat with the thief and let him for a drink.

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, steven100 said:

agree .... even after 10 beers I still look who's watching when opening my hotel room door.  Did he chat with the thief and let him for a drink.

Friendly talk then a drink

Drug deal

Money swap

Gay

 

Who knows.

 

Where was the wife?

 

Unless he had 20 beers and had no idea of his surroundings the story doesn't add up.

 

 

[ScammedInThailand]

On ‎19‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 11:22 AM, OJAS said:

Hmm, would not surprise me in the slightest to learn that the British Embassy were bending over backwards to provide Lane with all the "consular assistance" he may need, while leaving his British victim entirely to his own devices.

Absolutely! As victims of ruthless [British] criminals and outrageously corrupt Thai government agencies and courts that left my wife and I homeless and penniless - the British Embassy in BKK and Foreign Office in London, have not raised one finger to help us. Meanwhile, a lengthy and long-running list of criminals such as Tony Kenway, Laura Plummer et al have enjoyed unbridled support from British authorities.

 

We have written repeatedly to the British Foreign Office [and particularly the Foreign Secretary himself] to clarify exactly what their policy is in respect of British nationals facing difficulties overseas. We have asked this simple question for more than 3 years - and to date we have not had any response. However it seems blatantly obvious that the British FCO and Embassies consider criminals as the only worthy recipients of assistance and solace. 

 

This point was dramatically proven only a few days ago when the British government made representations to the Thai government that all British nationals currently imprisoned in Thailand be accorded their proper Human rights under International Law. Whilst I generally applaud this - I cannot fail to be astonished that the same moral attitudes shown to mostly self-serving drug-smugglers and vicious ruthless criminals are not equally and rightfully extended to the victims of crime. 

 

The British government should be ashamed. 

[basatop]

JustinFine! you could be more realistic ? that modus operandi : pushing into hotel room after the guest is quite popular,it happened many times in good hotels;some horny guys used to rape women in this way...It is very easy thing to do .Use your imagination if you have any..

[Rc2702]

This story does have the dodge factor.

 

Drugging him post robbery.

Nicking 400k of goods and then going after his ATM which would have had limited withdrawal capacity before being flagged.

 

This robbery just does not have the hallmarks of a career criminal and why would he take such a risk in a camera operated establishment. One  still piece of cctv seems a big odd too. 

 

 

[ScammedInThailand]

On ‎19‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 4:06 PM, Argus Tuft said:

That was a quick Embassy critical post, totally unfounded and pure speculation that the Embassy is supposedly assisting the thief with consular assistance.

And what exactly is the consulate supposed to do for a victim of theft in this case?

Victim of crime in a foreign country, usual course of action is to go to the local police.

 

Amazes me the number of posts bashing the embassy, based on nothing more than emotion and speculation.

+Angus Tuft: The post was clearly rhetorical and not a little sarcastic - both factors you missed by a country mile. However, the post IS historically and empirically accurate - the British Foreign Office [and their Embassies] have an appalling record in assisting 'victims of crime' compared with providing immediate and extensive aid to ruthless criminals. My wife and I have personally suffered this shameful indifference demonstrated by the British FCO and I can promise you that your misinformed and insensitive comments cut no ice with us.

 

Furthermore, given Thailand's abjectly parlous justice system and the incredible levels of corruption not only in the RTP but other government agencies - even having conclusive evidence is no guarantee that Thai authorities will act to see that justice is done. In future, perhaps you should confine your opinions to topics you know something about. 

Edited February 21, 2018 by ScammedInThailand

[Justfine]

4 hours ago, basatop said:

JustinFine! you could be more realistic ? that modus operandi : pushing into hotel room after the guest is quite popular,it happened many times in good hotels;some horny guys used to rape women in this way...It is very easy thing to do .Use your imagination if you have any..

Popular? You an expert on this?

 

Strange comments from you.

[Justfine]

"Travers said a Panerai watch worth Bt200,000 and 19 other items, were taken with a total value of Bt440,781"

 

Clues right there. The guy was watching him wearing an expensive watch or had talks prior. Or bogus insurance claim.

 

440,000 in goods is a lot to be carrying.

[Damrongsak]

28 minutes ago, Justfine said:

"...a Panerai watch worth Bt200,000..."

I have a classic Casio F-91W.  It's a sub-$10 US watch and the battery may last more than 5 years. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Justfine]

Got a 6 year G Shock. One of the more normal looking ones. Battery lasted 4 years instead of suggested 3. Resin band was rubbish though.

[Argus Tuft]

2 hours ago, ScammedInThailand said:

+Angus Tuft: The post was clearly rhetorical and not a little sarcastic - both factors you missed by a country mile. However, the post IS historically and empirically accurate - the British Foreign Office [and their Embassies] have an appalling record in assisting 'victims of crime' compared with providing immediate and extensive aid to ruthless criminals. My wife and I have personally suffered this shameful indifference demonstrated by the British FCO and I can promise you that your misinformed and insensitive comments cut no ice with us.

 

Furthermore, given Thailand's abjectly parlous justice system and the incredible levels of corruption not only in the RTP but other government agencies - even having conclusive evidence is no guarantee that Thai authorities will act to see that justice is done. In future, perhaps you should confine your opinions to topics you know something about. 

Misinformed and insensitive comments? Oh please.

 

So according to you the post I replied to was both historically and "empiracally accurate?"

 

Look at the post I replied to please, and the context of my reply - victims of crime need to approach the law enforcement agencies of the country they are in first.

 

Kindly raise your personal rant in a different topic or forum thanks

[Argus Tuft]

7 hours ago, ScammedInThailand said:

+Argus Tuft - I do apologise. I didn't realise that not only are you dyslexic but clearly retarded too.

 

Firstly, YOUR response to the OP was to summarily dismiss his comments [which were very obviously tongue in cheek] as being 'totally unfounded and pure speculation'. Yet in the same breath state that YOU know exactly what the British Embassy's reaction should/will be. Are the words, arrogance, misguided/misinformed, insensitive and hypocritical on your computer's lexicon? If so, I urge you to check out their meanings.

 

Regarding your second point [and I couldn't decide if this was material for your next  comedy club performance?] that this was a matter for the local police and not the British Embassy - who presumably have much more important things to deal with such as helping the myriad criminals in Thailand. To repeat [oh .... if only you had paid attention in primary school and learnt to R-E-A-D!] this is not the point the OP was making.  A week or so ago there was a story featured on TVF that you patently missed stating that the vast majority of Thais feel their legal/justice system is a complete disaster. [no doubt, you will disagree with this - so I recommend you search for anti-corruption organisation GAN's recently published and extensively researched study on Thai corruption which produced identical findings]. 

 

So the real point being made was whether the victim has faith in the Thai police and that he will receive justice and possibly the return of the items stolen from him. To be honest and to repeat [again]  having witnessed 'Thai justice' [now, there's an oxymoron!] at first hand, my wife and I have absolutely no faith in the Thai justice system and clearly neither does the OP and arguably the victim also.

 

In conclusion, the whole thrust of the OP's post was to sarcastically express his/her opinion that victims of crime are generally ignored by British Embassies worldwide, whereas criminals are ALWAYS extended every possible means of support. This is a fact! And I gave 2 very recent examples for you - assassinated scam artist and gangster Tony Kenway and drug smuggler Laura Plummer. But, I even have a documentary film [available on YouTube] made in the 1990's of British Embassy staff visiting a convicted murderer in Thai prison, complete with magazines, writing materials and other items. The lady then proceeds to enquire from the prisoner whether he is 'satisfied' with the lawyer the Embassy had provided him with - and if he wasn't that they would happily find him another!

 

Whilst I accept that these kinds of behaviours may no longer be standard practice for British Embassies - i challenge YOU to provide evidence where VICTIMS OF CRIME have enjoyed the same levels of assistance. Otherwise just crawl back in your hole and leave the thinking to the grown-ups. 

Flame.  Please consider removing.  Way off topic and personally insulting