Benelli Leoncino 500

[ledi]

Just picked up our new cat: the Benelli Leoncino 500,  2 days ago.

 

Breaking in the engine now according to the manual.

 

I am now looking for a decent rack to mount a suitable box and side bags. Any hints?

Also, any advice on magnetic tank bags? Do they hold or fly off easily? Scratch risk?

 

 

Thanks

 

[guzzi850m2]

Nice, congrats.
So how is the bike?
Have you considered softbags?
If you check a resent topic about the Honda X500 there is some good info on those.

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[OmegaRacer]

Nice, enjoy your new ride!
Also looking forward to a review.

[ledi]

Can't say much yet - as I've done only 50 km so far... But first impression is very positive, easy to ride, big handle bar. Still calibrating brakes, suspension etc.... 

Guzzi850m2 - thanks - checking... 

[Martinluka]

What costs the bike and do you also have 1class assurance with ith .

Best regards Martin

[ledi]

14 hours ago, Martinluka said:

What costs the bike and do you also have 1class assurance with ith .

Best regards Martin

Was 209000 + 1st class insurance for a year... 

[ledi]

Short update:

I am still breaking in the little Lion... and having lots of fun riding it.

Needs around 4 Lt of "Gasohol 95" for 100 km at the moment...

 

Plans: have a rack and a GIVI box mounted (got the box) and the saddle reworked a bit (lift it a bit)

Handle bar grips: change to softer ones

All in all: very enjoyable 

Cons: Pillion position is not very comfortable

 

 

[ardokano]

On 14.03.2018 at 5:29 PM, ledi said:

Short update:

I am still breaking in the little Lion... and having lots of fun riding it.

Needs around 4 Lt of "Gasohol 95" for 100 km at the moment...

 

Plans: have a rack and a GIVI box mounted (got the box) and the saddle reworked a bit (lift it a bit)

Handle bar grips: change to softer ones

All in all: very enjoyable 

Cons: Pillion position is not very comfortable

 

 

4 liter per 100km? Wow..why so few? in theory it is more than 5 liters or even 6

[papa al]

4 hours ago, ardokano said:

4 liter per 100km? Wow..why so few? in theory it is more than 5 liters or even 6

What theory?

[ardokano]

5 hours ago, papa al said:

What theory?

What practice. Its normal for some 150-200 cc. Ride TNT300 its be more than 4 l per 100km. Ride duke 390 it's more than 5 l..

 So how 500cc can be like this is?

[johng]

My Suzuki Raider 147cc does about  36 KM / L   or  2.8 L per 100KM

[ardokano]

1 hour ago, johng said:

My Suzuki Raider 147cc does about  36 KM / L   or  2.8 L per 100KM

On scooter N Max normal its 3-4 l per 100km and top its be 5 l per 100km.

:)

[eisfeld]

2 hours ago, ardokano said:

What practice. Its normal for some 150-200 cc. Ride TNT300 its be more than 4 l per 100km. Ride duke 390 it's more than 5 l..

 So how 500cc can be like this is?

I can easily get 25+ km/l on my CBR500R. In fact, I can approach 30 if I take it very easy. I normally get about 20km/l on my 803cc Ducati. I can even get 20km/l on my 1000cc Africa Twin if I cruise on a highway. I can also get it down to 10 if I ride it like I'm on a racetrack. As you can see, it should be pretty easy to get 4L/100km on a <= 500cc bike. But it depends heavily on how you ride the bike.

[properperson]

 

Great looking ride sir !

 

The only two draw backs that i can see are 1) It's weight and 2) The enevetable huge depretiation that has dogged Benelli since the Chineese took over.

 

A 500X Honda makes more sense all round.

[mistabent]

On fuel economy... 4l per 100km is definitely feasible, though I have no experience with the 500cc Benneli's.  In the 2000km I've ridden my 2017 Triumph Bonneville T100, I've averaged 25.3 km per liter, and that's 900cc.  Lots of variables not just engine size. When I owned a 200cc Phantom, I only got slightly better fuel economy than the Triumph. When I owned a last generation carb'd 2005 T100 (865cc), I only got 17km/l.  30km/l is common on the 750cc Honda NC 750x...

[ardokano]

7 hours ago, eisfeld said:

I can easily get 25+ km/l on my CBR500R. In fact, I can approach 30 if I take it very easy. I normally get about 20km/l on my 803cc Ducati. I can even get 20km/l on my 1000cc Africa Twin if I cruise on a highway. I can also get it down to 10 if I ride it like I'm on a racetrack. As you can see, it should be pretty easy to get 4L/100km on a <= 500cc bike. But it depends heavily on how you ride the bike.

Monster 796 and 821 near 7-7.5 l  per 100 km. I do no guys how is can be ride bike and got some like this is:)

[eisfeld]

3 hours ago, ardokano said:

Monster 796 and 821 near 7-7.5 l  per 100 km. I do no guys how is can be ride bike and got some like this is:)

Mine is the Scrambler which has the same engine as the 796. Other people seem to be getting slightly over 5L/100km as well: http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/ducati/scrambler_icon

 

The point is: engine size matters, but not as much as you think. It's how you ride the bike that matters most. But this is getting off-topic. Simple fact: this Leoncino can most likely achieve the posters claimed fuel consumption numbers without too much effort.

[guzzi850m2]

 
Great looking ride sir !
 
The only two draw backs that i can see are 1) It's weight and 2) The enevetable huge depretiation that has dogged Benelli since the Chineese took over.
 
A 500X Honda makes more sense all round.

Well maybe, but the Benelli sounds way better according to different sources and a on-line bike magazine tester likes the Benelli better overall than the Cb500.
Re-sale value doesn't matter much if you keep it more than say 4-5 years.
2nd bike prices have dropped like a stone the last few years.
Okay service might be a problem, don't know how they are covered here in Thailand.

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[ledi]

Notes to consumption

the 4L was just after the first refill... I guess after a few more refills and a few more km my numbers will be more accurate and reliable.

My decision to get the Leoncino was based on looks mainly... and price... and of course some reviews on YouTube and some blogs... + dealer in vicinity... The weight doesn't bother me. (It is still around 50 kg lighter than the last bike I used to ride a thousand years ago (Yamaha XS1100)... 

I did test ride the Honda 500 - my impression: good bike and easy to ride. The Honda might keep it's value a bit longer than the Leoncino... Time will tell.

But I still find the Leoncino is a sexy little beast! 

 

 

[papa al]

21 hours ago, properperson said:

 

Great looking ride sir !

 

The only two draw backs that i can see are 1) It's weight and 2) The enevetable huge depretiation that has dogged Benelli since the Chineese took over.

 

A 500X Honda makes more sense all round.

See here sir ! :

Stop making sense.

[ardokano]

17 hours ago, eisfeld said:

Mine is the Scrambler which has the same engine as the 796. Other people seem to be getting slightly over 5L/100km as well: http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/ducati/scrambler_icon

 

The point is: engine size matters, but not as much as you think. It's how you ride the bike that matters most. But this is getting off-topic. Simple fact: this Leoncino can most likely achieve the posters claimed fuel consumption numbers without too much effort.

I am not Thinks I got in from practice. OK sure its offtop.:)

 Benelli look nice but its heavy.

[ledi]

On 18/03/2018 at 6:56 PM, ardokano said:

I am not Thinks I got in from practice. OK sure its offtop.:)

 Benelli look nice but its heavy.

Heavy: Hehe... Am not planning to carry the baby... am riding it :) 

[ardokano]

21 minutes ago, ledi said:

Heavy: Hehe... Am not planning to carry the baby... am riding it :) 

So just injoy it.. And not care about fuel consumption. Just if you go for some long distantion.

 But if ride I am sure it be 6l and up.

 Because got on 370cc easy near 6L 

 

[papa al]

7 hours ago, ardokano said:

So just injoy it.. And not care about fuel consumption. Just if you go for some long distantion.

 But if ride I am sure it be 6l and up.

 Because got on 370cc easy near 6L 

 

Thanks for clarifying that.

[VocalNeal]

On 3/9/2018 at 12:08 PM, ledi said:

Also, any advice on magnetic tank bags? Do they hold or fly off easily? Scratch risk?

 

I used one all the time. I have two and they stick well. stick well.  One larger, one two-decker.  Keep dust of them and the tank and you will be OK. I used one double tank bag and a Givi top box and was good for the week end or longer. When buying a top box you need to get one your "evening" shoes will fit in line with the bike. One each side. 

 

All this being said if you are that worried about those kind of small scuffs maybe park the bike and then when you come to sell it , it will still be in "as new" condition. 

[properperson]

On 3/18/2018 at 4:51 AM, guzzi850m2 said:

Well maybe, but the Benelli sounds way better according to different sources and a on-line bike magazine tester likes the Benelli better overall than the Cb500.
Re-sale value doesn't matter much if you keep it more than say 4-5 years.
2nd bike prices have dropped like a stone the last few years.
Okay service might be a problem, don't know how they are covered here in Thailand.

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That may well be true - but in the real world circumstances change and sometimes boredom sets in - if you wanted to sell a 4-5 month leoncino, 70,000 baht may well have vanished.

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[OmegaRacer]

I seriously doubt it would lose 70k after just 5 months. The Leoncino just came out, it's its first year and I'm sure there would be lots of people who would gladly get a 5 months old bike for 30k less. 

[ledi]

Update:

I've done 230 km since the last stop at the pump. Refilled the tank with 9.7 Lt. Which gives an average of 23.7 km/Lt or 4.21Lt/100km. 

Note that i am still breaking it in, so rarely pushing it much higher than 6xxx rpm. (It's got quite some oomph even when not pushing it too hard... nice). 

Adjusted the handlebar (rotated it forward) trying to find the most comfortable riding position (am 180cm).

Had the Leoncino checked at the dealer's today as I am heading off to Pranburi tomorrow morning (first longer ride for the little beast).

Dealer had 5 Leoncino (or would one say 5 Leoncini :) ?) in the showroom - said they are all sold and will be picked up this week by the buyers. Based on social media chatter it seems they are really selling well at the moment...

[Ks45672]

On 20/03/2018 at 7:08 PM, OmegaRacer said:

I seriously doubt it would lose 70k after just 5 months. The Leoncino just came out, it's its first year and I'm sure there would be lots of people who would gladly get a 5 months old bike for 30k less. 

Not a Chinese scrapper they wouldn't

Have a look at the Thai classifieds using Google translate or something to get an idea

[ledi]

...Anyway... left BKK early (very) this morning for Pranburi (solo) and managed to cross BKK straight through the center without much traffic(!).

Ride:  I'd say quite comfy now after handlebar adjustment.

Pump stop: 9.2 LT

KM: 255.9

=> 27.8 km/Lt or 3.6 Lt/100 km