What is the purpose of crime scene re enactment

[jippytum]

Often when someone pleads guilty to a crime the Thai police with full media coverage often request the accused who has already pleaded guilty to visit the crime scene for  a re enactment. This  appears to be nothing more  than a public  finger pointing exercise with full  press coverage.  Why do they it?

 

[nikmar]

I think you answered your own question. Publicity and back patting. "look at us , we're so ggod at our jobs."

 

[HLover]

For entertainment and public shaming.

[blackcab]

It's also a public confession. Very difficult to retract.

[poanoi]

pioneers of selfies

[Aussieroaming]

A "big joke"

[jayboy]

There is no real purpose.Perhaps there was one once.But it touches on a general characteristic of many Thai bureaucracies in that it's really hard to change procedures laid down by one's predecessors.There's a kind of sluggishness in the system which makes innovative reform more difficult than it should be.I would be amazed if there weren't some progressive cops at a senior level who didn't want to change this outmoded practice - but the sheer gravity of the past weighs down heavily on them.

[YT3k72Em]

It helps to implant false memories in witnesses !

 

I remember they re-enacted the Ratchaprasong bombing guy, dressed him up in the right colored shirt and shorts to match the perpetrator. (when's he coming to justice then!) and a few months later they arrested another guy, and re-enacted the same scene with the same clothes, for an act committed by one person! 

[sammieuk1]

A chance for the epaulet laden to get some fresh air .

[malt25]

Photo op...photo op....photo op.

[Classic Ray]

No evidential value whatsoever. 99.9% of cases throughout the rest of the world are dealt with without the need for playacting. It's just a showboat for the police to tell everyone how good they think they are, when we already know the truth.

[ThaiWai]

Don't be obtuse. An enactment would show that the suspect knows exactly how the crime took place and can match his behavior to the facts in the case. 

[Bangkok Barry]

18 hours ago, jayboy said:

a general characteristic of many Thai bureaucracies in that it's really hard to change procedures

 

Applies to any bureaucracies anywhere.

[jayboy]

20 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Applies to any bureaucracies anywhere.

Yes but the matter of degree is the issue.

[JSixpack]

Finger pointing scenes are staged for the TVF trollertariat who love to point fingers at finger pointing scenes. Leads to many more page views and clicks. I can say no more. 

[Bogbrush]

 Firstly, crime scene re-enactment only takes place when there has been a guilty plea; it would be a pointless exercise if the suspect pleaded not guilty  because there would be no crime - for him - to re-enact, or a scene to attend, would there?

 

 Secondly, the re-enactment is conducted to provide further evidence of the suspects guilt; a guilty plea is not enough, particularly in countries where the authorities may have a reputation for over enthusiasm in obtaining confessions and consequently have a poor record of safe convictions. In other words, it is difficult for a suspect, on arrival at court, to claim a plea was beaten out of him when he has led police to the site where the body is buried etc. it’s dotting the “i’s“......

 

 

 

 

[johnnybangkok]

'Courts are no longer allowed to accept as evidence suspects’ accounts during their re-enactment of serious crimes after laws were amended to prevent a repeat of some high-profile criminal cases in which scapegoats were convicted'

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Legal-experts-query-need-for-crime-re-enactment-30208456.html

[seancbk]

I did some research on this and it seems that Korea also does crime re-enactments. 

Interesting piece about it below which seems to line up with maybe why the Thais do it.

One thing South Korea is definitely not known for is liberal criminal rights. Anyone who has seen films like Sympathy for Lady Vengeance or Mother is familiar with the Korean practice of crime reenactments. Citizens suspected of committing crimes, such as rape or murder, are forced to take part in these humiliating public rituals, which start with police binding the suspect with ropes or handcuffs. They are then led to the scene of the crime and are ordered to recreate the criminal act. To make the ordeal even more humiliating, the media is invited along to publicize the event. Dates for the reenactments are even printed in newspapers so the public can show up, watch, and hurl insults. In 1972, Jeong Won-seob was forced to act out the murder and rape of a schoolgirl, a crime he allegedly committed. As he acted out the event, people were screaming at him and yelling things like, “Kill this guy!” As horrible as this is, it gets even worse: Jeong turned out to be innocent. Despite the glaringly obvious problems with this procedure, the practice still continues today. The reasoning is something called “national sentiment” which basically means public feelings are more important than civil liberties. Obviously, not all Koreans agree with this viewpoint, and many are campaigning against the practice, but it seems the majority favors the public ritual despite the public opposition.

[ScotBkk]

19 hours ago, YT3k72Em said:

It helps to implant false memories in witnesses !

 

I remember they re-enacted the Ratchaprasong bombing guy, dressed him up in the right colored shirt and shorts to match the perpetrator. (when's he coming to justice then!) and a few months later they arrested another guy, and re-enacted the same scene with the same clothes, for an act committed by one person! 

It also helps to express better those they deem fit for convictions of the so-called Guilty at the drop of a hat. The 2 Mynmar lads in the Kao Toh murder case comes to mind ........

[ujayujay]

Police Showbusiness..."...look, we are so busy and successful".

[ncc1701d]

3 hours ago, ThaiWai said:

Don't be obtuse. An enactment would show that the suspect knows exactly how the crime took place and can match his behavior to the facts in the case. 

Op didn’t say “suspect”. 

 

I can understand why they would do it to a suspect - never underestimate the stupidity of your average criminal to implicate themselves.

 

as to why AFTER they are convicted - I think that’s been answered.

[Rimmer]

A flame has been removed

[IAMHERE]

To throw out false confessions. Perhaps in days of olden the rich or powerful paid some poor soul to take the fall. Unlikely to happen in these modern times.

[MuntyC0re]

At its most basic level, crime scene reconstruction attempts to answer the questions:  what happened and how it happened. While in many cases only the victim and the suspect guilty of the crime can really know for sure why and how a violent crime occurred, it is often possible for a reconstruction of a crime scene to answer one, if not both questions.

While human logic plays a large role in the crime scene reconstruction process, proper analysis of the physical evidence and other facts gathered throughout the investigation play a major role. After evidence has been identified, gathered and analyzed, the crime scene investigator might then offer a hypothesis of what may have happened at the scene.

[Jingjock]

Its called charades like we played when we were kids?????

[malt25]

"Its called charades like we played when we were kids????? "

But, what is the prize if you win ???

[mrwebb8825]

On 4/10/2018 at 12:17 PM, jippytum said:

Often when someone pleads guilty to a crime the Thai police with full media coverage often request the accused who has already pleaded guilty to visit the crime scene for  a re enactment. This  appears to be nothing more  than a public  finger pointing exercise with full  press coverage.  Why do they it?

Because it's the only way the police have of proving whether or not they came all the correct conclusions during the investigation phase. When the guy/gal re-enacts the whole thing, they can see their missteps w/o the public knowing. 

[Sealbash]

 
Applies to any bureaucracies anywhere.

And the practice of suspects re-enacting a crime is not unique to Thailand.


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[tso310]

Sooner or later we will get 'Crime Scene Oscars'.