Nightmare at Big C - Warning: It Is Disgusting

[Bundooman]

22 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Guess what happens in the kitchen of a restaurant.

Or a Chinese restaurant - hawk hawk - spit!

 

[Ahab]

Nightmare, really? You need to get out more if this is what qualifies as a nightmare in your world.

 

Unbelievable what some consider to be a nightmare.

[stevenl]

4 hours ago, Rori ban khun fang said:

You saw it happen at Big-C.

I think you are a German according the footnotes in your post.

When in Germanyor anywhere in the world check the foodchain.

When you know how things should be made and are to be made you would never eat a thing again.

 

Why have salmonella infection a lot also in Europe? 

answer: Because the meat  is not treated wel or something did happen in the production process.

Many times have issues with cross contamination in the chain/

 

f.e. Chicken.

At arrival they are duped in a gas chamber depending or are hung on a hook conveyor and electrocuted

After this they are all hund towards the neck cutting line to the bleeding line.

From de-bleeding line they are being de feathered by fisrt loosen them all on a hook conveyor and transported through hot water baths. Next defeathered by rubber fingers on drums.

I shortcut the next steps since else it will be boring but after excavation when the intestine are taken out they are being cut in peace etc

There is contamination everywhere. Specially alreadystarting at defeathering where some chickens loose their poo.

 

This is just one step one product.

 

Pork, Beef, Horse, Duck, Fish all in production process everything can happen.

 

Even with fruits and vegetables everything can be contaminated with poisons etc.

What do you think some guys working in a fruit packing unit might do when have to pee?

Just imagine.

 

My wife forbids me to drink just from cans. Why use straw? Because somewhere in the line an animal, an insect, a human can have left something.

 

So my advise is COOK all the food at minimus 10 minutes at minumum 76 degrees Centrigrade and even then??

 

Oh do not forget to enjoy the sigarate filled with dopes or get yourself a coke full lof sugar.

 

BTW. Dit you know a glas of orange juice has more suger inside than cola?

 

I agree when in  ashop stay OF the food with your hands and never cough or spit on it.

 

Good you are all nice custommers in the bar and the restaurant. You all are friends with the staff. Tip well please. Maybe somewhere some one did spit on your food.

 

 

Footnotes, what footnotes?

 

Much more likely he is from USA in my opinion, they seem to be much more in fear of germs, bacteria etc. than others.

 

But it really doesn't matter very much where he is from.

 

IMO you and some others are way overdoing it.

[soistalker]

12 hours ago, DeusExMachinaBKK said:

Wait, what? He didn’t take a shower and it bothered you? You know your pool is like 60% piss, right? 

I'd be more bothered with swimming in underwear than not taking shower. 

60,% you say?

[wgdanson]

2 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

So do we. Ya get a crack to get rid of some yahoo every year.

See what I meant about hard to understand.

[MekkOne]

14 hours ago, shadowofacloud said:

Yeah.

 

So make this simple experiment: leave a banana (or any other fruit) in the Thai sun for a day or two. Then eat it - it will most likely will taste, look and feel disgusting, but will not harm you in any serious way.

 

Now do the same thing with your favorite steak. Or fish. Please post the results (hire a medium first).

so what has to do this with protein and carbohydrates? In the fruit and vegetables there are natural preservatives that are not present in the meat or fish, nothing to do with what bacteria prefers.Fact if you let a banana and a raw steak on a table at the sun of Thailand the steak will be gone quiet faster than the banana, a dog or a cat will probably eat it before you can see it rot.

[0815]

Some Chinese are behaving a bit strange. ?
(Sure not only the Chinese)
One day in Central the cashier had packed my oats into the plastic bag already, when a Chinese woman next to me took it out again to read the label. When I told her that would not be a really good behaviour she was just laughing about me.

[Jai Dee]

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[neeray]

23 minutes ago, Jai Dee said:

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Good. It was getting overdone. Nothing more to be said.

[tigermoth]

On ‎9‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 7:16 AM, giddyup said:

Not unusual when the meat is displayed openly, no protection from coughing and sneezing either. Just hope that the cooking process kills off any bacteria. BTW, it's common for the Thais to have a feel of the meat as well.

I have;nt seen any Thais feeling the meat but the lack of protection against sneezing and coughing is appalling and against the laws in my country. Occasionally I get stomach upsets after eating some of this food and I always have it cooked.

[elgenon]

I like people using alcohol wipes entering a super, like nothing they touch has been touched before.

[Psimbo]

Does the Op require counselling and hugs for witnessing this 'nightmare'?

[anon537687643]

Anyone who has any dealing with Children/young students will know they aren’t taught to cover face with hand or tissue when sneezing! It’s the culture Im informed ,

.... Says everything !

 

 

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[Bill Miller]

On 9/6/2018 at 7:09 AM, Valentine said:

That kind of thing happens in the bakery section too, not only at Big C

Yes, and not just Chinese people. I have watched as Thai women pick up and squeeze every loaf of bread on a shelf, fortunately bagged loaves. I am sure thy do not limit themselves that way.
It struck me as strange, because my GF is "overly nice" about many things. She will cause a fuss if I pick up a bit of food I have dropped, a not infrequent occurrence after my stroke, from the table top. ALways carefully wipe your cutlery and dishe, too.?
Normal precautions, such as washing your meat selection before proper cooking, will prevent food borne illness. I have also adopted the habit of "koshering"  meat before cooking. The blanket of salt draws moisture out of the meat, and thus any surface bacteria.
That is not the intent under Judaic dietary laws, but rather to remove blood from the meat. As a non Jew I have adopted it as a hygienic measure after seeing the above behaviours.

[Rhys]

Thanks for the heads up... never buy any type of meat there...

[dick dasterdly]

53 minutes ago, Bill Miller said:

Yes, and not just Chinese people. I have watched as Thai women pick up and squeeze every loaf of bread on a shelf, fortunately bagged loaves. I am sure thy do not limit themselves that way.
It struck me as strange, because my GF is "overly nice" about many things. She will cause a fuss if I pick up a bit of food I have dropped, a not infrequent occurrence after my stroke, from the table top. ALways carefully wipe your cutlery and dishe, too.?
Normal precautions, such as washing your meat selection before proper cooking, will prevent food borne illness. I have also adopted the habit of "koshering"  meat before cooking. The blanket of salt draws moisture out of the meat, and thus any surface bacteria.
That is not the intent under Judaic dietary laws, but rather to remove blood from the meat. As a non Jew I have adopted it as a hygienic measure after seeing the above behaviours.

"I have also adopted the habit of "koshering"  meat before cooking. The blanket of salt draws moisture out of the meat, and thus any surface bacteria."

 

Thank you for this comment.

 

I mentioned in an earlier post that when I ask my cleaner to wash the 'fresh' meat I've purchased (I was/am concerned about the meat being sprayed with chemicals to keep it 'fresh' - quite apart from the obvious handling issues) - she also scrubs it with salt.

 

I thought it a bit odd and had no idea why, but this is probably the explanation!

[Lacessit]

11 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Stay off your cell phone and puter too..

Good point. I'm wondering how many zillion bacteria there would be on the keyboards of every TV poster.

[CharlieH]

Off topic removed.

[tropo]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Good point. I'm wondering how many zillion bacteria there would be on the keyboards of every TV poster.

Not as many as on chicken and pork. Even without the extra added bacteria from inappropriate handling, try leaving pork or chicken out at room temperature. It won't last long.

[adammike]

2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

"I have also adopted the habit of "koshering"  meat before cooking. The blanket of salt draws moisture out of the meat, and thus any surface bacteria."

 

Thank you for this comment.

 

I mentioned in an earlier post that when I ask my cleaner to wash the 'fresh' meat I've purchased (I was/am concerned about the meat being sprayed with chemicals to keep it 'fresh' - quite apart from the obvious handling issues) - she also scrubs it with salt.

 

I thought it a bit odd and had no idea why, but this is probably the explanation!

To be honest with you it may be better to get the meat home and cook it that day,if you must wash it do it and cook it there and then, all that handling the meat washing and splashing water around is just spreading any bacteria around your kitchen it will be all over the show and then you have to clean everywhere and your hands will a health hazard.If you have to scrub meat with salt I wonder if you should even be eating it.

Edited September 7, 2018 by adammike
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[dick dasterdly]

43 minutes ago, adammike said:

To be honest with you it may be better to get the meat home and cook it that day,if you must wash it do it and cook it there and then, all that handling the meat washing and splashing water around is just spreading any bacteria around your kitchen it will be all over the show and then you have to clean everywhere and your hands will a health hazard.If you have to scrub meat with salt I wonder if you should even be eating it.

I've taken to washing all work surfaces/sink etc. down with Dettol every afternoon anyway - as it seems to be a rat deterrent! ?

 

Having had serious problems with my nails for the past 3 years (the hospital 'specialists' were never able to 'pin it down', and came up with conflicting advise on most visits..) - now they're finally getting back to normal I always wear rubber washing-up gloves when washing meat or veg - and latex gloves when handling meat. (So that I don't have to keep washing my hands.)

 

The one piece of advice on which the 'specialists' were correct, is that I was a touch OCD about washing my hands - and consequently washing them too often.

 

But none of this is the point!  I wash any 'fresh' meat 'cos I think it is likely to be have been sprayed or soaked in chemicals to maintain it's shelf-life (not to mention the general hygiene standards...) - and wondered why my cleaner also scrubbed the meat in salt.

 

Poster Bill Miller came up with a likely reason why she does this.

 

I doubt she 'knows' the reason why 'its right to scrub meat in salt', it's probably something taught from mother to daughter for generations?  But if Ben Miller's post is correct ("The blanket of salt draws moisture out of the meat, and thus any surface bacteria.") - then it makes sense.

Edited September 7, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[Lacessit]

19 hours ago, wgdanson said:

I did mean UTI, Mr Rank has been my friend for a long time ! He works in that bank called Barclays. In Gorton.

 

Urinary Tract Infection. You'd know about it if you ever had one. Nasty.

Edited September 7, 2018 by Lacessit

[cookieqw]

On 9/6/2018 at 5:07 AM, neeray said:

Washing meat can in turn contaminate a large amount of kitchen real estate as contaminated water droplets can splash far and wide; must be followed by a thorough sink/taps/counter cleaning. I have read that cooking meat thoroughly is all that is required. Up to you.

they do say do not wash chickens in the UK

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, cookieqw said:

they do say do not wash chickens in the UK

My partner here always washes chickens, why don't they do it in the UK?

[metisdead]

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[dick dasterdly]

22 minutes ago, giddyup said:

My partner here always washes chickens, why don't they do it in the UK?

Because, rightly or wrongly, we assume they haven't been contaminated by anything other than 'normal' bacteria that will be destroyed by cooking properly.

[balo]

This is normal all over Thailand and SE Asia. It's a cultural thing to touch any food before you buy it .   Most food are fried here anyway and any  bacterias will be killed.  But it's a disgusting habit if you ask me . 

 

I buy the prepackaged ones and in my kitchen I take all the precautions handling any meat and vegetables. I have only been food poisoned twice in Thailand, one time at Burger King , another time in a Chinese restaurant. 

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2018 by balo

[CharlieH]

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You have been warned !

[yogavnture]

On ‎9‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 6:45 PM, stevenl said:

No, shouldn't happen.

 

Do you cook your meat before eating?

 

Hope you managed to regain some sleep after a nightmare like this.

thier is growing concensus that animal protein causes cancer. 

[stevenl]

8 hours ago, yogavnture said:

thier is growing concensus that animal protein causes cancer. 

Which has nothing to do with my comment.

Better with the vegetarian comments.