Australia paper defends Serena Williams cartoon despite outrage

[mauGR1]

Just now, RicUSA said:

She will likely get a 10 million dollar NIKE ad contract out of it - wait a couple weeks

 

yep, and laughing all the way to the bank, while marcusarelus gets all worked up on tvf

[sanemax]

12 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

I don't care.  If you want to make racist characterizations of American black people in cartoons expect to be called a racist. 

What was racist about that cartoon in particular .

There was no connection between that cartoon and cartoons from 100 years ago , so, why was that particular cartoon racist .

   I also didnt ask you whether you cared or not, I did ask you whether Black Americans should be exempt from being caricatures in Australian cartoons ?

[RickBradford]

8 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

No, it is just about an Australian cartoon of a black tennis player. 

Exactly. That's all it is.

 

And you have been approximately as hysterical about it as the Arab League was about the Danish cartoons of Mohammed.....

[marcusarelus]

4 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

Exactly. That's all it is.

 

And you have been approximately as hysterical about it as the Arab League was about the Danish cartoons of Mohammed.....

It is racist.  I have not been hysterical at all.  There is a quote function feel free to use it.  I think the Arabs want to shoot people.  All I said is if you want to draw a racist cartoon expect black folk to call it a racist cartoon.  Does that sound hysterical to you?

[marcusarelus]

11 minutes ago, sanemax said:

What was racist about that cartoon in particular .

There was no connection between that cartoon and cartoons from 100 years ago , so, why was that particular cartoon racist .

   I also didnt ask you whether you cared or not, I did ask you whether Black Americans should be exempt from being caricatures in Australian cartoons ?

The connection between the cartoon today and the cartoons in the museum of memorabilia is they look the same.  That is why that cartoon was racist.  No I won't post racist pictures for you to ogle.   Go look if you have an interest.  I looked and many American blacks have looked and expressed that on TV and in the news media.  Google Jim Crow and Aussie cartoon.

[mfd101]

27 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

My guess is that America will not let it drop and the cartoonist and publisher will both be fired.  Just a guess. 

I don't think so.

[RickBradford]

8 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

I think the Arabs want to shoot people. 

What a horribly bigoted and racist comment.

[marcusarelus]

3 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

I don't think so.

What do you think?  Give it 6 months?  Then I'll start a thread when they get fired. 

[marcusarelus]

1 minute ago, RickBradford said:

What a horribly bigoted and racist comment.

They shot people that drew that cartoon in France didn't they?  That I think is hysterical. 

[Thechook]

30 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

For American blacks I read the media and for the Aussies I read the cartoonist interview and his publisher.  My guess is that America will not let it drop and the cartoonist and publisher will both be fired.  Just a guess. 

Will never happen, mark knight is a legend and his statue has now grown even higher after being attacked by yanks. Australia is right behind him and we have his back and snowflake Americans will never touch our icon.

[marcusarelus]

2 minutes ago, Thechook said:

Will never happen, mark knight is a legend and his statue has now grown even higher after being attacked by yanks. Australia is right behind him and we have his back and snowflake Americans will never touch our icon.

Does Murdoch own it?

[Thechook]

19 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

It is racist.  I have not been hysterical at all.  There is a quote function feel free to use it.  I think the Arabs want to shoot people.  All I said is if you want to draw a racist cartoon expect black folk to call it a racist cartoon.  Does that sound hysterical to you?

Yes very much so as there is absolutely nothing racist about it.

[RickBradford]

5 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

They shot people that drew that cartoon in France didn't they?  That I think is hysterical. 

If you don't think that writing: "I think the Arabs want to shoot people " is not a bigoted and racist comment, then you are in a very small minority.

 

[Thechook]

4 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Does Murdoch own it?

Murdoch is American and has no control over aussies and our thoughts and opinions, Americans may think they can tell the world what to do but everyday aussies will never be pushed around by americans

[marcusarelus]

5 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

If you don't think that writing: "I think the Arabs want to shoot people " is not a bigoted and racist comment, then you are in a very small minority.

 

On 7 January 2015 at about 11:30 local time, two brothers, Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, forced their way into the offices of the French satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Armed with rifles and other weapons, they killed 12 people and injured 11 others.

[RickBradford]

1 minute ago, marcusarelus said:

On 7 January 2015 at about 11:30 local time, two brothers, Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, forced their way into the offices of the French satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Armed with rifles and other weapons, they killed 12 people and injured 11 others.

And so, on the basis of the dreadful actions of 2 men, you demonise an entire race of people: ""I think the Arabs want to shoot people "

 

Despicable.

[marcusarelus]

15 minutes ago, Thechook said:

Yes very much so as there is absolutely nothing racist about it.

OK don't pay any attention to me how about take a look below.

 

Australian newspaper reprints 'racist and sexist' Serena Williams cartoon on front page

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/11/jk-rowling-joins-criticism-australian-cartoonist-racist-sexist/

 

Australian author Benjamin Law compared headlines from American newspapers that "matter-of-factly" described Knight's cartoon as racist to coverage within his country.

 

"It isn't a subjective call," he said. "Embarrassing to see the Herald Sun doesn't realise defending Knight's cartoon supports the case swathes of Australian media is blind to its own racism

 

Local lawmaker Rohan Leppert wrote in response to that cartoon. "Utterly shameful."

 

While the US has deep racial divides and ongoing issues related to the legacy of slavery and post-Reconstruction discrimination, it is more diverse than Australia. Non-white people make up over 23% of the population, and 11% of members of Congress are people of color. The voices of non-white people are also more prominent in the US media than Australia's.

 

 

[nausea]

Still a problem, eh? When blacks can be caricatured the same as whites, we'll know we've reached a truly equitable society. Have some sympathy with these guys - blacks and homos suffered horribly. Talk about having a chip on your shoulder. People forget, what things were like 40 years ago. I remember, and I'm not gonna forget.

[marcusarelus]

8 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

And so, on the basis of the dreadful actions of 2 men, you demonise an entire race of people: ""I think the Arabs want to shoot people "

 

Despicable.

You wrote, " And you have been approximately as hysterical about it as the Arab League was about the Danish cartoons of Mohammed"

 

I wrote Arabs want to shoot cartoonists in France like " On 7 January 2015 at about 11:30 local time, two brothers, Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, forced their way into the offices of the French satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Armed with rifles and other weapons, they killed 12 people and injured 11 others."

 

I think Murdoch will can the cartoonist and publisher to stop the anti racial backlash against Australia.  Just my opinion.  I could be wrong.  As more Australians get behind the racist cartoonist the pressure will increase. 

[RickBradford]

3 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

I wrote Arabs want to shoot cartoonists in France like ....

No you didn't. You wrote: "I think the Arabs want to shoot people ".

 

That is a racist and Islamophobic comment that would be regarded as a hate crime in many jurisdictions.

 

Stop trying to weasel out of it.

[tifino]

 the U.S publishing media, the tunnel visioned audience... they need to see how wide ranged the artistry of mark Knight goes:

no one is cariactured any worsed than any other public figure

he is pretty accurate in reflecting how the general aussie tongue in cheek character sees in what he draws

the is a gallery https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/latest-mark-knight-cartoons/image-gallery/3a75151fbab76180dfd2225950ca23da

 

even PMs Past nor Present, are not safe 

 

 

 

serving up a cariacture of Serena spitting her dummy, was an accurate cariacture of what the viewing public all saw on the television

 

 

 

 

 

[marcusarelus]

2 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

No you didn't. You wrote: "I think the Arabs want to shoot people ".

 

That is a racist and Islamophobic comment that would be regarded as a hate crime in many jurisdictions.

 

Stop trying to weasel out of it.

You wrote, "What a horribly bigoted and racist comment." 

I wrote, "They shot people that drew that cartoon in France didn't they?  That I think is hysterical."

[melvinmelvin]

 

21 pages of views on the cartoon so far,

anybody keeping track funny/racist?

 

think we have reached a sorry state of misunderstood PC if we can't accept that drawing

 

I found it very funny, and sexist/racist perspectives didna dawn upon me, but maybe I drink too much and am daft

 

 

[marcusarelus]

2 minutes ago, tifino said:

 the U.S publishing media, the tunnel visioned audience... they need to see how wide ranged the artistry of mark Knight goes:

no one is cariactured any worsed than any other public figure

he is pretty accurate in reflecting how the general aussie tongue in cheek character sees in what he draws

the is a gallery https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/latest-mark-knight-cartoons/image-gallery/3a75151fbab76180dfd2225950ca23da

 

even PMs Past nor Present, are not safe 

 

serving up a cariacture of Serena spitting her dummy, was an accurate cariacture of what the viewing public all saw on the television

If your a racist living in 1930 American South it was an accurate caricature of what the viewing public saw. 

 

The media all over the world except Australia has reported it is a racist cartoon. 

[RickBradford]

2 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

You wrote, "What a horribly bigoted and racist comment." 

I wrote, "They shot people that drew that cartoon in France didn't they?  That I think is hysterical."

You also wrote: "I think the Arabs want to shoot people ".

 

It seems to me that you are a bigger racist by far than the cartoonist in the Australian newspaper.

[mfd101]

15 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

I think Murdoch will can the cartoonist and publisher to stop the anti racial backlash against Australia.  Just my opinion.  I could be wrong.  As more Australians get behind the racist cartoonist the pressure will increase. 

Nonsense. You're turning this into a world-shaking event, like - say - Donald & Kimbo getting together in Singapore.

 

It certainly isn't world-shaking in Oz. Turn the page, yawn, now for the footy ...

[marcusarelus]

3 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

You also wrote: "I think the Arabs want to shoot people ".

 

It seems to me that you are a bigger racist by far than the cartoonist in the Australian newspaper.

Hate to tell you but Arabs are not a race. 

[marcusarelus]

3 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Nonsense. You're turning this into a world-shaking event, like - say - Donald & Kimbo getting together in Singapore.

 

It certainly isn't world-shaking in Oz. Turn the page, yawn, now for the footy ...

Front page news in OZ. 

[mfd101]

Just now, marcusarelus said:

Hate to tell you but Arabs are not a race. 

Neither are Black Americans. Or white Americans, or any other member of H. sapiens!

(sigh) Like all discussions on any subject you can think of, the discussion soon (1) deteriorates into shouted abuse and (2) becomes an argument over the meanings of WORDS. And the meanings of words are arbitrary (there is no connection between the sound or letters and the meaning) and they evolve over time ... (like, for instance, the meaning of the word 'marriage').

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, marcusarelus said:

Hate to tell you but Arabs are not a race. 

Hate to tell you but they are.