Family blame police in Nakhon Phanom after chase results in death of helmet-less son, 14

[wgdanson]

27 minutes ago, Sumarianson said:

You are the most dispicable person that I have ever seen writing on this forum. That boy did not deserve to die as you would attest. In Thsiland it is normal for children and adults to go without helmets. There are many driving up the wrong side of the road or on the footpath, passing red lights and travelling 4 to a bike. However none of them deserve to die for these fineable mistermenours. His licence plate no. Would be recorded on a police camera and his address could be gone to and wait for him or the police officer could have taken his number. There was no risk assesment done as is frequently the case. That officer could have caused an accident involving many children and adults and more deaths. All for the sake of a law. The boy had hurt no one? If he killed himself because he did not wear a helmet then that is that. However he would not have died if the police had not chased him for 200 Baht. Remember the real law says that in order to fine or imprison anyone, you have to produce a victim. In this case the boy is the victim. 

Sorry mate but I agree with Colin. You say 'All for the sake of a Law'. If we did not have laws, the world would be anarchy. OK, no -one deserves to die for a MISDEMENOUR, but if every motoring offence was just followed up by taking the licence plate number, then visiting the registered address, there would be nothing done, well almost nothing. The fact that many Thais drive on the wrong side of the road etc does not make it legal. and could, and very likely does, result in the deaths of innocent people. 

[StevieAus]

8 minutes ago, Media1 said:

Your wrong. A young kid being forced to initiate a high speed chase is wrong. 

That's what registration plates are for. lf was my son l beat the life out of that scum cop. Only in Thailand is there such vrain dead law enforcers 

In which case hopefully you would be jailed.

I seems that you have as much sense and respect for the law as the irresponsible parents.

[Media1]

10 minutes ago, Longstaff said:

Did you bother to read the original post?

"He was chased because he was not wearing a helmet and refused to stop."

And who cares. His a kid. Use your brains.

[wgdanson]

11 minutes ago, Media1 said:

Your wrong. A young kid being forced to initiate a high speed chase is wrong. 

That's what registration plates are for. lf was my son l beat the life out of that scum cop. Only in Thailand is there such vrain dead law enforcers 

If it was MY son, I would beat the s..t out of HIM, not the cop, who was only trying to do his job. The kid was not FORCED to initiate a high-speed chase, he did it of his own free (stupid ) will. 

[metisdead]

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[colinneil]

16 minutes ago, Media1 said:

Your wrong. A young kid being forced to initiate a high speed chase is wrong. 

That's what registration plates are for. lf was my son l beat the life out of that scum cop. Only in Thailand is there such vrain dead law enforcers 

No i am not wrong, if i said it was black, you would say it was white, never have you agreed with me on any thread.

I think you do it just to be outrageous, pathetic when you say it is ok for a young unlicensed, uninsured, helmetless boy to ride a motorbike, and the police are wrong.

You are telling another poster to use his brains, maybe you should use yours.

 

Edited November 27, 2018 by colinneil

[Media1]

1 minute ago, wgdanson said:

If it was MY son, I would beat the s..t out of HIM, not the cop, who was only trying to do his job. The kid was not FORCED to initiate a high-speed chase, he did it of his own free (stupid ) will. 

If he was alive. l won't argue with people with no experience. 

[Media1]

Just now, colinneil said:

No i am not wrong, if i said it was black, you would say it was white, never have you agreed with me on any thread.

I think you do it just to be outrageous, pathetic when you say it is ok for a young unlicensed, uninsured, helmetless boy to ride a motorbike, and the police are wrong.

I wonder why

[RandG]

It's always someone else's fault these days.  

[Media1]

3 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

If it was MY son, I would beat the s..t out of HIM, not the cop, who was only trying to do his job. The kid was not FORCED to initiate a high-speed chase, he did it of his own free (stupid ) will. 

Your all inexperienced never been on a bike as young boy. So l need not comment 

[Media1]

2 minutes ago, RandG said:

It's always someone else's fault these days.  

There's kids leaving school near my house on bikes 3 up no helmet and police directing traffic. on plain site lol. Spare me the crap. The dog dragged the body. He should not have touched the boy. That alone I bury him

[wgdanson]

5 minutes ago, Media1 said:

If he was alive. l won't argue with people with no experience. 

And what experience do you have of chasing kids on motorbikes please?

[wgdanson]

2 minutes ago, Media1 said:

he dog dragged the body. He should not have touched the boy. That alone I bury him

What's that mean in English, please?

 

[Cricky]

Poor Parenting 

[Odysseus123]

1 minute ago, wgdanson said:

And what experience do you have of chasing kids on motorbikes please?

Lot's, by the look of it...????

[Media1]

Just now, wgdanson said:

And what experience do you have of chasing kids on motorbikes please?

l was chased out of panick only at 12. Dirt bike police. We had a local race track on crown land. There was no need to run. But kids don't think sometimes

[Media1]

1 minute ago, Odysseus123 said:

Lot's, by the look of it...????

Yes plenty Google Lee Hogan. We rode together

[OneEyedPie]

7 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

If it was MY son, I would beat the s..t out of HIM

My father was a cop and I got some severe beatings in the 70s and early 80s for any minor indiscretions.  Okay, I didn't exactly like the punishments but it was part of the learning process and sometimes he was wrong to give me a beating as I was entirely innocent, just dropped in it. 

 

Tough love which formed the honest me of today. 

 

 

[wgdanson]

1 minute ago, Media1 said:

l was chased out of panick only at 12. Dirt bike police. We had a local race track on crown land. There was no need to run. But kids don't think sometimes

Some adult posters on TV do not either.

[Media1]

3 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

What's that mean in English, please?

 

Go wash some police bikes 

[Media1]

Just now, wgdanson said:

Some adult posters on TV do not either.

You can bark say what you like. l don't give a toss. Nobody be dragging my dead son and walking away

[wgdanson]

6 minutes ago, Media1 said:

Yes plenty Google Lee Hogan. We rode together

WOW!

 

The only Lee Hogan Google found is a Welsh pschyciatrist

Edited November 27, 2018 by wgdanson

[Media1]

6 minutes ago, VYCM said:

Poor Parenting 

Even worse policing. Why do people have registration plates ?

You were a great kid right

[Media1]

1 minute ago, wgdanson said:

WOW!

Disappointed are you. I hope your sin runs. 

[Tchooptip]

5 hours ago, darksidedog said:

To be quite honest, I feel the police in traffic stops are often way too gung ho in their actions. I have seen them drag people off a speeding bike, regardless of the potential injury it can cause. And for what? Minor traffic offences. I fully agree the boy should have been wearing a helmet, but to chase a kid causing an accident that kills the lad over a bloody helmet is wrong. If he had been a wanted murderer, or some other serious offence it would be acceptable, but for this they are out or order in my book.

Comment of an honest man, more humane and  most balanced compared to hysterical comments, and bravo to dare to say that on T.V. with all that was said before 

[Media1]

Just now, Tchooptip said:

Comment of an honest man, more humane and  most balanced compared to hysterical comments, and bravo to dare to say that on T.V. with all that was said before 

Dirt bag cop. Animal

[OneEyedPie]

3 minutes ago, Media1 said:

You can bark say what you like. l don't give a toss. Nobody be dragging my dead son and walking away

Take it easy.  The cop is hardly a specialist accident and emergency specialist.  The lad was alive at that point and for all he knew was carrying a knife or gun. 

 

Stop making excuses. 

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, Sumarianson said:

That boy did not deserve to die as you would attest. In Thsiland it is normal for children and adults to go without helmets. There are many driving up the wrong side of the road or on the footpath, passing red lights and travelling 4 to a bike. 

So just plain stupidity then...……..and they often pay the ultimate price unfortunately.

Edited November 27, 2018 by xylophone

[OneEyedPie]

6 minutes ago, Media1 said:

You can bark say what you like. l don't give a toss. Nobody be dragging my dead son and walking away

Would you allow or accept that your son arrive at such circumstance in his formative years?

[StevieAus]

7 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

It is notable that in many civilised countries, police have been told to back off when high speed pursuits begin, even when stolen cars are involved, on the grounds that it ends in too many unnecessary deaths. I note the article states he was chased because he had no helmet. Perhaps you think that such a heinous crime is sufficient to warrant an untimely death. From a small locale, and undoubtedly having his registration, they could have caught up with him at their leisure and he would still be alive.

I think you will find that police are told to “ back off “ as you call it only when it becomes too dangerous to continue the pursuit.

That is the case in most States in Australia and I understand the UK and I suspect most other countries.

Perhaps you subscribe to the view that when persons break the law they should not be pursued.

If it was your car stolen and wrecked by an unlicensed driver or a member of your family killed by a unlicensed, uninsured driver under the influence of alcohol as happened to a friend of mine in Australia, I suspect that you would be singing from a different song sheet.