Arrested and in IDC

[overherebc]

3 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

It is possible he could have made a mistake with the dates, anyone can do that. Although he put his hand up, no one knows the full reason for his overstay.

Why does anyone need to know? ????????

[NoshowJones]

4 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Why does anyone need to know? ????????

Did I say anyone needed to know?????????????

[jackdd]

3 hours ago, digbeth said:

If you purchase ticket for the person, will the Airline insist on seeing the credit card that was used to pay for the ticket at the check in desk? some airlines at Bangkok airport observe this rule more than others 

Theoretically this could happen, but i doubt they would do it when somebody is deported (does this person even check in at the regular counter?). Never in my life have i been asked to show the credit card that i used to buy a ticket, so highly unlikely

 

24 minutes ago, ravip said:

This happened on board a Train (ICE) (Frankfurt to Schwabach) in Germany, many years ago. Only option was to buy another ticket, but the original was refunded many months later with some 'surcharges'.

I don't think that this is what happened, but what happened was: Until a few years ago when buying a "bahn" ticket online you had to select an "identity card" which you would like to show together with your ticket. The default option was "credit card used to purchase this ticket", but you could also change it to "id card" and some other options. You probably left it at the default option and so they wanted to see your credit card when they checked your ticket ????

[janclaes47]

53 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

13 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I'm a bit surprised by positive replies. A family member asks for advice for UK national banged up for overstay and has zero funds. Why can't that family member approach other family/friends to pay overstay and flight. More simple start a gofundme. 

I am not saying that this is the case here, but if a person deliberately overstays and gets caught, then anyone who contributes to a gofundme, needs their head looked at.

 

Where did anyone read that they are asking for financial help or started a gofundme?

 

Oh wait, people looking for likes?

[fifelad55]

The same happened to a friend's cousin a few years ago. A Catholic priest p-aid his overstay fine. Th UK Embassy then arranged his flight home but confiscated his passport until the cost of the flight was refunded This guy is a total ar*e and has been disowned by his family

 

Alan

[overherebc]

23 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Theoretically this could happen, but i doubt they would do it when somebody is deported (does this person even check in at the regular counter?). Never in my life have i been asked to show the credit card that i used to buy a ticket, so highly unlikely

 

I don't think that this is what happened, but what happened was: Until a few years ago when buying a "bahn" ticket online you had to select an "identity card" which you would like to show together with your ticket. The default option was "credit card used to purchase this ticket", but you could also change it to "id card" and some other options. You probably left it at the default option and so they wanted to see your credit card when they checked your ticket ????

Standard check in desk, with your 'helper.'  If flight is within a short time company to the boarding gate and onto flight. If two or three hours held in the five star hotel downstairs then collected and escorted to the gate until boarded.

[digger70]

It's you're Family member    Get the Family to help him out /not or stay where he is.

[overherebc]

2 minutes ago, digger70 said:

It's you're Family member    Get the Family to help him out /not or stay where he is.

Read the opening post ie the very first one.

[poohy]

The video post inside IDC is unnecessary and unhelpful to the family that is doing the correct thing

 

Surely a moderator can delete it

[overherebc]

4 hours ago, Sophon said:

If he has no money at all, then you will have also to pay his overstay fine in addition to the plane ticket.

 

Sophon

Usually a 2 or 3000 baht fine at court.

[Sheryl]

5 minutes ago, poohy said:

The video post inside IDC is unnecessary and unhelpful to the family that is doing the correct thing

 

Surely a moderator can delete it

We can but I prefer not to.

 

The OP may wish to have some idea of what the place is like (I would), and it is informative.

 

While it shows a very unpleasant environment there are no scenes of violence or anything else that would warrant censorship.

 

This is the reality of the IDC.  I do not get the impression the OP is under any illusions about her family members situation. Nor that she is unusually faint of heart.

 

And who knows, maybe some of our members living in Bangkok will be inspired by it to volunteer to bring in supplies to people, as others are shown doing.

 

 

[Yme]

1. Book the ticket yourself. Embassies traditionally pay full fare

2. Fly direct (the guy who robbed the Singapore bank was arrested in transit in London after release from Thailand and sent to Singapore)

[pi2005ni]

Please follow the information and instructions from the embassy who deal with these situations every day . They are well aware of how things should be done . Do not listen to much of the misleading/ incorrect information being given my many on this forum .

[from the home of CC]

I imagine the people that are volunteering to bring in supplies are going to get scrutinized a lot more with a surreptitiously recorded (I'm assuming illegal) video of secure areas in the detention center appearing in TV. 

[cleverman]

16 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I'm a bit surprised by positive replies. A family member asks for advice for UK national banged up for overstay and has zero funds. Why can't that family member approach other family/friends to pay overstay and flight. More simple start a gofundme. 

I look forward to the day when I'm asked to contribute to a gofundme. "Ask the Salvos" 

[scorecard]

14 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

That isn't the process I've heard, the deportee is escorted on to the plane, his passport is handed to the flight crew who return it to him at the destination airport. As the UK flight will be direct he cannot go anywhere but to the UK.

I recall a colleague was deported from Singapore (overstay - always the smart ass 'they can't touch me' etc. attitude.

 

He explained back in OZ:

 

- He as taken on board before normal boarding started (QANTAS), put in a back seat where a curtain had been set up isolating his seat and the next to it where the S'pore polie escort sat.

 

- He was handcuffed to the seat, both wrists, he peed in a bottle as needed, he fed himself awkwardly,    handcuffs never released.

 

- A/c arrived in Sydney, all other passengers got off, then 2 OZ federal policemen came on board, one handcuff was released but re-handcuffed to one of the federal police. Other handcuff released but re-handcuffed to the second OZ federal policeman.

 

- Escorted off the flight into a different area, passport stamped etc, customs check completed.

 

- Into a paddy van with 2 cops still attached to him.

 

- Taken to  court facility in Sydney, court was opened and a magistrate looked at the case. Magistrate ordered that he now be released but after a lecture.

 

- In an adjoining room released into the arms of his wife, who quickly took him to the family car and away.

 

- He suffered emotional etc., stress for several years after.  His family gave him hell about making the family look silly etc.

 

 

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

 

Where did anyone read that they are asking for financial help or started a gofundme?

 

Oh wait, people looking for likes?

Read post #65. Someone suggested it.

[janclaes47]

24 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Read post #65. Someone suggested it.

Thanks for confirming your reading disabilities, since post #65 is my post, and actually the one you are replying to.

[Firefan]

6 pages to say: Listen only to embassy, you will get choice of 1-2 flights. Pick one of them no matter what cost. Cheers!

[jackdd]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

I recall a colleague was deported from Singapore (overstay - always the smart ass 'they can't touch me' etc. attitude.

 

He explained back in OZ:

 

- He as taken on board before normal boarding started (QANTAS), put in a back seat where a curtain had been set up isolating his seat and the next to it where the S'pore polie escort sat.

 

- He was handcuffed to the seat, both wrists, he peed in a bottle as needed, he fed himself awkwardly,    handcuffs never released.

 

- A/c arrived in Sydney, all other passengers got off, then 2 OZ federal policemen came on board, one handcuff was released but re-handcuffed to one of the federal police. Other handcuff released but re-handcuffed to the second OZ federal policeman.

 

- Escorted off the flight into a different area, passport stamped etc, customs check completed.

 

- Into a paddy van with 2 cops still attached to him. 

 

- Taken to  court facility in Sydney, court was opened and a magistrate looked at the case. Magistrate ordered that he now be released but after a lecture.

 

- In an adjoining room released into the arms of his wife, who quickly took him to the family car and away.

 

- He suffered emotional etc., stress for several years after.  His family gave him hell about making the family look silly etc.

  

 

This sounds more like he did something illegal in OZ, fled to Singapore and the OZ government had him extradited back to OZ, and not like he just overstayed in Singapore

[metempsychotic]

18 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Great...so no problem. Pay for flight and all sorted. What help were you asking for. The flight most likely will be direct UK. Not cheap. Done

You seem to suffer an inability to read. The op was clear, as have been the responses. 

[jacko45k]

17 minutes ago, Firefan said:

6 pages to say: Listen only to embassy, you will get choice of 1-2 flights. Pick one of them no matter what cost. Cheers!

Yes, many insist on re-posting answers already supplied. 

[Will27]

15 minutes ago, jackdd said:

This sounds more like he did something illegal in OZ, fled to Singapore and the OZ government had him extradited back to OZ, and not like he just overstayed in Singapore

Yep, that doesn't happen for an overstay.

 

You don't go to court in Australia for overstaying a visa

In another country.

 

A lot more to this story.

[Pauline Robb]

4 hours ago, Sheryl said:

We can but I prefer not to.

 

The OP may wish to have some idea of what the place is like (I would), and it is informative.

 

While it shows a very unpleasant environment there are no scenes of violence or anything else that would warrant censorship.

 

This is the reality of the IDC.  I do not get the impression the OP is under any illusions about her family members situation. Nor that she is unusually faint of heart.

 

And who knows, maybe some of our members living in Bangkok will be inspired by it to volunteer to bring in supplies to people, as others are shown doing.

 

 

We did not find the video offensive in any way at all, it gave us some idea of what the place is like. 

[overherebc]

2 hours ago, Will27 said:

Yep, that doesn't happen for an overstay.

 

You don't go to court in Australia for overstaying a visa

In another country.

 

A lot more to this story.

Plus you can't be handcuffed to a seat on a plane so you can't move in an emergency.

I think he might have had a few VB's before he told you the story.

[blackcab]

An off topic post has been removed.

[timendres]

On 1/8/2019 at 12:29 PM, Sheryl said:

On 1/8/2019 at 12:24 PM, poohy said:

The video post inside IDC is unnecessary and unhelpful to the family that is doing the correct thing

 

Surely a moderator can delete it

We can but I prefer not to.

 

The OP may wish to have some idea of what the place is like (I would), and it is informative.

 

While it shows a very unpleasant environment there are no scenes of violence or anything else that would warrant censorship.

 

This is the reality of the IDC.  I do not get the impression the OP is under any illusions about her family members situation. Nor that she is unusually faint of heart.

 

And who knows, maybe some of our members living in Bangkok will be inspired by it to volunteer to bring in supplies to people, as others are shown doing.

Wise decision. Not everyone is a delicate flower incapable of dealing with reality. For those capable of handling reality, information is critical to making decisions.