New retirement extension rules forces expat, 90, to leave Thailand

[marcusarelus]

8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You're our GOD!!!  Everyone here wants to be you!!!  If we only could.... 

What do you contribute to Thailand that would make them want you?  Or can you only flame and post negative comments?  Hardly what a country is looking for eh?

[marcusarelus]

8 hours ago, dontoearth said:

The fact the deposit is not guaranteed and there are not any assurances of what would happen to the deposit when you die makes this high risk banking.  I am not interested.  I have told most thai friends at best I will come for a less than 30 day visa exempt holiday to get around and have dinners and visit.  I am not going to stay the winters anymore and not going to live here the 9 to 10 months of the year as i did for quite a few  years. 

If you really lived here you would know that the amount in the bank is guaranteed and it is easy to make a will for your bank deposits when you die.

[marcusarelus]

3 hours ago, Time Traveller said:

I think their complaint is that it's no longer just 800k in the bank. It's 800k that you can't access all year. Which in my view is a very reasonable complaint. Because the money belongs to the owner, and should be able to be used for whatever the owner wants or needs. Isn't that that the point of having to show money in the bank? 

Also, Many people get annual payments (instead of monthly) that could be used to top up accounts.

400K all year.  800k 5 months.

[Whip]

Go to Cambodia- less hassle

[tlandtday]

If the US and other governments simply decline wealthy Thais their 10 year tourist visas and curtail shopping sprees or their kids going to university or buying property all of these extreme measures by the Thai government would end in a heart beat.

 

A B-2 Tourist Visa issued by the US Embassy Thailand may allow the Thai citizen to travel back and forth to the United States for up to 10 years. ... The US Tourist Visa is a non-immigrant visa that allows a Thai citizen to enter the United States temporarily for business (B-1) or as a tourist or visitor (B-2).

[hotchilli]

22 hours ago, mokwit said:

There is likely to be a stream of these stories in the foreign press. Might be enough to make Thailand take notice as they actually don't like being in a bad light internationally.

As Thailands whole structure is one of being a cellular society, Thailand is for Thai people.

They don't want foreigners buying property, they don't want you owning land, they don't want you to work, they don't want your opinion, they don't want you telling them what to do.

Unlike other countries who see the benefits of immigration & assimilation here it is not welcome.

Here all they want is the tourist trade, come here, spend your money & go home !!!

Don't expect any sympathy from immigration & certainly don't expect a U'turn from the new boss.

 

[LazySlipper]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

New immigration  rules have forced "Don" to call it quits and head home.

Not much information on WHY he has to leave.

The headline makes it seem as though it is because of his age.

Click bait

[stanleycoin]

45 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

If you really lived here you would know that the amount in the bank is guaranteed and it is easy to make a will for your bank deposits when you die.

If you lived here, you would know, that making a will,  and then the person receiving the wishes of that will,  is not an easy,  straight forward process

or a short, cheap process. 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2019 by stanleycoin

[AGareth2]

8 minutes ago, LazySlipper said:

Not much information on WHY he has to leave.

The headline makes it seem as though it is because of his age.

Click bait

doesn't trust Thai banks after using them for 30 years

[SABloke]

22 hours ago, jmd8800 said:

Ya know.... the west does this too:

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/man-deported-separated-wife-home-office-ill/

Sad story, but nowhere in that article does it state that the government suddenly changed the regulations that had previously allowed him to stay. He didn't qualify, for whatever reason, at the time of his application and was denied.

 

Not sure how this has anything to do with the new Thai requirements that have drastically changed over night and now require some people to lock up 400,000 Baht for the entire year.

[joebrown]

20 hours ago, madmen said:

His health insurance would have been $ 1 million
Best thing for the old boy was to head home

Health Insurance will probably be 'the straw that breaks the camel's back' for many expats, unless agents can find even bigger brown envelopes.

I'm 73 yrs old and have never been more than an out-patient in the last 65yrs. My Medical Insurance is due to increase to 100K pa when I reach 75 yrs and that's excluding out-patient cover!

IMHO the OP will be joined by many more expats, unless the Thai authorities offer some form of state financed basic cover. IMHO this form of cover should already be available to expats legitimately married to a Thai spouse!

[Prairieboy]

23 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

Without more details, this article is just worthless 

Everyone on Retirement Extension today was supposed to already have 65k/monthly or 800k in bank,

so why exactly can't he stay anymore after these rather small changes in rules ? 

Perhaps due to the mandatory medical insurance which people over 70 cannot buy!

[Boatfreak]

Good ones in, bad ones out right? Where are all the Thai Visa posters who a month ago where declaring Good Riddance when the first expatriations started? I told you that you would be next. 

[Boatfreak]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

 

Unlike other countries who see the benefits of immigration & assimilation here it is not welcome.

 

 

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Really? Name one country that sees the benefits? 

[DPKANKAN]

17 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Apparently some racist contributions think its all made acceptable by adding a string of smileys at the end.

Apparently, some people are too thick to know worldwide news and humour!! ????????????????????????????????????????????

[marcusarelus]

3 minutes ago, Boatfreak said:

Good ones in, bad ones out right? Where are all the Thai Visa posters who a month ago where declaring Good Riddance when the first expatriations started? I told you that you would be next. 

Ah, no.  I think they are all still posting. 

[Pattaya46]

12 minutes ago, Prairieboy said:

Perhaps due to the mandatory medical insurance which people over 70 cannot buy!

There is NO mandatory insurance for Retirement Extension.

AFAIK only the Visa O-X requires it.

[Bunbobi]

it is sad and how you expect a senior go back to their own country in his age? not humane

 

[DPKANKAN]

14 hours ago, Benroon said:

Or they would just direct you to the TV survey that said for 70% of people it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference. 

Noooo! This is Thailand. Reports say that 88.6576% of statistics are made up on the spot!! 5555

[Mister Fixit]

21 hours ago, ChipButty said:

If from the UK and he does not have a pension would he then get any benefits? 

Of course not.  Why would he get UK benefits when not even resident in the country?

 

AND his pension will be frozen to the amount it was when he first left the UK.  No annual increments once you have left there.

 

You're on the basic level and that's it, if you live 2 years past retirement or 20 years.  

[Peterw42]

16 minutes ago, Prairieboy said:

Perhaps due to the mandatory medical insurance which people over 70 cannot buy!

Or maybe he actually believed someone making up rubbish about mandatory insurance.

[Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere]

Comments reveal that many feel they are no longer welcome in "The Land of Smiles".

The smiles have been long gone except from people that have something to sell you and the hotel hospitality sector. Since this unelected government took the reins it renewed an old effort to drive a wedge between Thai and foreigners first by presenting all most daily stories of foreigners scams (against Thai women and the general Thai public) , illegally owning land, sex tourists, foreigners circumventing the immigration rules by border runs to work in Thailand (teachers) foreigners killing Thai women and stealing from Thai and finally the SOBs that overstay their visas. Then the dog whistle to Thais to be suspicious of these pesty foreigners and report them and with state controlled media in hand they accomplished their objective and got a bonus of even getting foreigners to chastise and report other foreigners. Oh! I can still hear the fading calls of praise for this government and the Biggest joke on ass kissing foriegners..... Big Joke.

 

Farang: "They (Thai economy need us. Thailand will die without the Farang side of donations to prostitution" Enter stage right... The Chinese. 

 

The Elite Thai "Give us back our Thai women and leave your kids behind and get out Farang! You were only our guests but now you've overstayed your WELCOME!!

 

"Because of a few many will suffer"

[gaz3443]

It amazes me how many people have retired in thai but dont have 800,000 bht , if i didnt have 800k to my name i certainly would not  have retired !!!!!

[ginjag]

2 minutes ago, gaz3443 said:

It amazes me how many people have retired in thai but dont have 800,000 bht , if i didnt have 800k to my name i certainly would not  have retired !!!!!

It amazes me why you do not use some gorm and think about years ago when he had well over 800k,  he bought a condo 700k,  he bought a car 500k  had a girlfriend to enjoy his 30k a month pension.   That's how it was 15 years ago, no rent, no buses and trains, cooked at home,  bought local,  not smoked not drink.   living on a wage most teachers would want.

Now look at the rules to stay,     ask yourself, what does he do,  sell his home to put 800k in a bank to get his visa  ???????

 

[Henryford]

6 minutes ago, gaz3443 said:

It amazes me how many people have retired in thai but dont have 800,000 bht , if i didnt have 800k to my name i certainly would not  have retired !!!!!

Yes many people save up 1, 2, 3 million before they retire. But how long does that last especially with currencies dropping like a stone. It is quite easy for your savings to drop to 800k at age 70 when it is too late to start work again. When i did my financial planning before i retired i didn't expect the Pound to be at 40.

[stanleycoin]

8 minutes ago, Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere said:

Comments reveal that many feel they are no longer welcome in "The Land of Smiles".

The smiles have been long gone except from people that have something to sell you and the hotel hospitality sector. Since this unelected government took the reins it renewed an old effort to drive a wedge between Thai and foreigners first by presenting all most daily stories of foreigners scams (against Thai women and the general Thai public) , illegally owning land, sex tourists, foreigners circumventing the immigration rules by border runs to work in Thailand (teachers) foreigners killing Thai women and stealing from Thai and finally the SOBs that overstay their visas. Then the dog whistle to Thais to be suspicious of these pesty foreigners and report them and with state controlled media in hand they accomplished their objective and got a bonus of even getting foreigners to chastise and report other foreigners. Oh! I can still hear the fading calls of praise for this government and the Biggest joke on ass kissing foriegners..... Big Joke.

 

Farang: "They (Thai economy need us. Thailand will die without the Farang side of donations to prostitution" Enter stage right... The Chinese. 

 

The Elite Thai "Give us back our Thai women and leave your kids behind and get out Farang! You were only our guests but now you've overstayed your WELCOME!!

 

"Because of a few many will suffer"

 

Come on, get down and have one more coffee,  its only 9 o'clock in the morning. 

we got all day for that.  

 

 

[DPKANKAN]

16 minutes ago, gaz3443 said:

It amazes me how many people have retired in thai but dont have 800,000 bht , if i didnt have 800k to my name i certainly would not  have retired !!!!!

Not been here long then!! 555

[Farang99]

If they have survived here on illegally obtained visas, I am happy they got away with it for so long, but now Immigration are starting to enforce the laws it was only to be expected they would  pick the easiest targets.

 

Pity the other laws are still not being rigorously applied - ;like traffic, murder and rape.

[ginjag]

14 minutes ago, gaz3443 said:

It amazes me how many people have retired in thai but dont have 800,000 bht , if i didnt have 800k to my name i certainly would not  have retired !!!!!

Gaz,  you are talking about  todays new rules.....so I agree with you if it were today and I was to retire I would have that amount.  Please think about the forward planning years ago when the baht was 75 to the pound, and near no charges or restrictions to retire/stay here,  NO ONE could have forseen that you would need a spare 800k,  or 65k a month.

 

Please understand the plight of the oldsters caught in the trap.

[Olmate]

23 minutes ago, gaz3443 said:

It amazes me how many people have retired in thai but dont have 800,000 bht , if i didnt have 800k to my name i certainly would not  have retired !!!!!

I,d say you are easily amazed