Phuket ‘Seasteaders’ told to pack up and go home

[webfact]

Phuket ‘Seasteaders’ told to pack up and go home

By The Thaiger

 

PHOTO: An artist’s impression from the seasteading website

 

The ‘seasteading’ couple, that have set up a ‘floating’ home some 15 nautical miles off Phuket’s coast, are now the subject of an official complaint by the Thai Third Naval Area Command (that oversee Phuket’s security).

 

Chad Andrew Elwartowski and his Thai wife, Supranee Thepdet are said to be in violation of the the Thai Criminal Code.

 

 

The couple is believed to be in the early days of setting up an ‘independent state’ in international waters. A source, speaking to the Bangkok Post, believes the couple are preparing paperwork to codify their new ‘seasteading’ status in international waters.

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/phuket-seasteaders-told-to-pack-up-and-go-home

 

-- © Copyright The Thaiger 2019-04-15

 

 

[impulse]

I'll give the structural integrity 5 minutes from the start of the first good squall that blows through.

 

We had 5000 ton oil rigs with platforms sitting 50' off the sea surface, and we would shut them in and evacuate the crew once or twice a year.  And that was on the Gulf of Thailand side...

 

Telling them to go home is actually doing them a favor- perhaps saving their lives.

I love the concept of an independent offshore state (as in Pirate Radio).  But nobody should die to set one up.

 

Edit:  BTW, love the contrast between the brochure and the reality...

 

Edited April 14, 2019 by impulse

[Enoon]

Although they are International waters they are also in:

Royal Proclamation establishing a Contiguous Zone of the Kingdom of ...

 

"A Contiguous Zone of Thailand adjacent to its territorial sea is hereby established at twenty-four nautical miles measured from the baselines used for measuring the territorial sea. Thailand shall prevent and/or punish violations of customs, fiscal, sanitary or immigration laws or regulations that are committed or may be committed in its territorial sea."

 

It would seem it requires an unwillingness to be uncooperative (on the part of the Thai government) to ensure the "seasteaders" peace of mind.

 

But I'm sure they know what they are doing.

 

????

 

 

 

Edited April 14, 2019 by Enoon

[wisperone]

Translation...we don't want to pay taxes.

[Puchaiyank]

Very amusing...will gain about as much traction as underground bunker homes did...too many day to day living problems...too numerous to list...☠

[baansgr]

Can a foreigner do this?

[impulse]

Just now, baansgr said:

Can a foreigner do this?

 

Is anyone a foreigner in International waters?

 

[MRToMRT]

Just sounds like a business plan rather than a lifestyle choice.

[DoctorG]

No concern about bad guys visiting?

[Cadbury]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Phuket ‘Seasteaders’ told to pack up and go home

Being in Thailand these seasteaders might pick up bad habits and throw their rubbish over the side.

Get PM Prayut on the case; he will rid Thailand of these unwelcome and undesirable interlopers with his trusty Article 44. 

Edited April 15, 2019 by Cadbury

[neeray]

That lasted about as long as a new political party who successfully challenged the status quo.

[davehowden]

The solution is to more beyond the Thai territorial limit of 24 nm.

[Khun Paul]

high seas

all parts of the sea that are not included in the territorial sea or in the internal waters of a state (Geneva Convention on the High Seas 1958). The territorial sea was fixed as not exceeding 12 nautical miles by the 1982 Convention on the Law of the Sea. The UK has fixed its limit at 12 miles in the Territorial Sea Act 1987. States have very limited rights in relation to the high seas.

 

 

 

Thailand be so very careful , not that they care 

[Lucius verus]

Must be some kind of publicity stunt. A big storm would smash that joint into shards of glass and match sticks in no time.

[Dumbastheycome]

Oh Buoy!

Can investing  in international waters have any assurance for the  first 20 suckers customers or will that depend on the rules of the  Seastead State?

Up  anchor and Away Me Hearties!

Puts a new face on Pirates  me thinks.

[Hal65]

I wonder what advantage this has over a boat. I guess more scaleable living area?

[webfact]

Navy files report against ‘seasteading’ structure off Phuket

By Kritsada Mueanhawong

 

 

The Royal Thai Navy has filed a report against an American/Thai couple for their ‘seasteading’ structure off the coast of Phuket.

 

The ‘seasteading’ couple, that have set up a structure some 15 nautical miles south east of Phuket’s southern coast, are the subject of an official complaint by the Thai Third Naval Area Command (that oversee Phuket’s security).

 

The Royal Thai Navy Third Area Command and Phuket Marine officers yesterday inspected the seasteading structure but no one was found on the steel and aluminum structure which is attached to the sea-floor. An order to remove the ‘seasteading’ structure is now in the process of being prepared.

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/navy-files-report-against-seasteading-structure-off-phuket

 

 

-- © Copyright The Thaiger 2019-04-15

[colinneil]

He crazy or what?

Wants to live on that minuscule platform, cannot get away if his missus starts yakking at him, nowhere to go, nowhere to hide, bet he never thought about that before he came up with his idea.

[Pravda]

Wow.... couldn't have picked the worse place on the planet for this little experiment.

 

Are you dumb or what?

[Pravda]

Oh dear, watching their youtube episodes they are crypto freaks.

 

Bitcoin at $100,000 yet?

 

 

 

 

[bluesofa]

13 minutes ago, colinneil said:

He crazy or what?

Wants to live on that minuscule platform, cannot get away if his missus starts yakking at him, nowhere to go, nowhere to hide, bet he never thought about that before he came up with his idea.

Maybe there's a lifeboat? Set her adrift.

[neeray]

13 minutes ago, colinneil said:

He crazy or what?

Wants to live on that minuscule platform, cannot get away if his missus starts yakking at him, nowhere to go, nowhere to hide, bet he never thought about that before he came up with his idea.

Love is blind. Maybe it's a new relationship and he's got plans of "rocking" all day, wet and wild. He hasn't considered "after the honeymoon".

[JoePai]

More importantly is how far is the nearest 7/!1     ????   

[Old Croc]

33 minutes ago, webfact said:

set up a structure some 15 nautical miles south east of Phuket’s southern coast

An ideal physical area, protected from large ocean swells and of course outside the cyclone zone.

However, I can't see how they can set up in this area and be outside Thailand's territorial limits. It's always going to be in the vicinity of Islands such as Racha and Phi Phi.

 

I support the concept of sea cities as something that could provide answers to over population on land.

But, to try it out on the xenophobic Thais turf (or waters!) was always going to be a losing battle.

 

[Tonyt00]

Lets see what immigration has to say about this, when entering or leaving Thailand. I doubt that they really thought this out. Sounds like the hippie philosophy of the 60s.

[smedly]

China are doing it off the coast of the Philippines 

[Snow Leopard]

Sea Pikeys. 

[Snow Leopard]

One of my old sea steads. 

 

[ParadiseLost]

A clear example of just how little care there is for the mentally unstable in Thailand...

 

Do these two honestly believe they are 'pioneers'?

 

Delusional at best, deranged a definite possibility.

 

[connda]

Looks like I called it.  I must have been having a prescient day, or I've just seen enough over time to know how governments think and work.

 

"And then it's only going to be tolerated until the country you border at 12 nautical miles decides they don't want you there any longer and forcefully removes you in the name of 'national interests' and 'responsibility to protect the delicate ocean eco-system from marauding Seasteaders", or "responsibility to protect Seasteaders from their own folly", etc, etc. etc.  They will be throughout demonized before they are evicted."