Pros and Cons of cambodia over thailand?

[BritManToo]

10 hours ago, ABreedApart said:

I have heard that beer and cigarettes are the cheapest in the world here in Cambodia and from my experience I would think that is correct.

About the same price as Vietnam, a 450ml of Saigon Green is around 15.000vnd.

Same for cigarettes.

[JimmyJ]

20 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Not been there but it would be my first call with plan 'B' should it happen for going in and out of Thailand.

After reading about Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, I've still to find out about living in Laos or Myanmar.

Those 2 countries would be good for a similar type thread.

Almost no info about those 2 countries on TVF.

[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, JCauto said:

Yes - if you're over 50, you can't officially marry a Cambodian girl. However, you can easily arrange to do so in the village, or take her outside of Cambodia and do so.

Doesn't this count as a plus?

I'd love to marry you darling, but your country won't let me ..................

[Kerryd]

13 hours ago, jabis said:

Something like this, aye?

https://forum.thaivisa.com/forum/184-cambodia-forum/

 

12 hours ago, DingDongLing said:

you guys need to start posting in here also.  Forum has little activity

Lol - I've been a TV member since 2005 and never knew they had a "Cambodia" sub-forum, or ever seen it mentioned anywhere until today. When I clicked on the topic in the daily newsletter I never noticed the forum, I thought it was just another one in the "Thai Visas" forum where you usually find such threads.

 

I see they do have a dedicated Myanmar sub-forum as well as one for other areas in SEA, which would include Laos and the Philippines I assume.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/forum/208-regional-forums/

[Olmate]

1 hour ago, tomster said:

Agree with everthing in this post, especially the bit about the people. I've only been here 7 weeks but you don't have the "us vs them" feeling that exists in Thailand (the use of the word "farang" pretty much sums it up").

 

Also as JCauto says, there are now quite a few great Khmer restauarants around serving an excellent variety of Khmer food - maybe not up there with the very best of Thai food imho but that's a matter of personal taste and preference.

 

My visa is a 6 month, multiple entry "looking for work" visa". Cost $170, the serviced apartment I'm statying at arranged it, I gave my passport and the fee to the lady in reception, a week later I ordered some amok from room serice and the passport arrived with it...

 

In contrast, the last time I was in Jomtien immigration with my Thai wife and kids, I had to produce 11 different documents to get a 60 day extension (to my 1 year Non O extansion to stay based on having a Thai child), I was literally treated like a criminal - even my wife was lost for words.

 

Is it difficult to get visa for your Thai wife/family?

[Mac98]

 Pro: PP nightlife is budget friendly. Some amazing ladies if you look around. Local transport is good value. Friendly locals. (Had one store owner take me on his motorbike to another store to get what I wanted, diet Coke, then dropped me at my hotel.) Real hamburgers (not fast food) are way better and easier to find. Visa requirements easier to live with. There are casinos if you feel lucky.

 Con: got a fake $100 bill out of an ATM. Nothing could be done about it as it was spotted days later. Rents seem to be a bit higher for less quality. Convenience stores not nearly as convenient to find. Fewer Western goods on offer at markets. Massage a bit more pricey and good massage a bit harder to find. Though some nice neighborhoods and many good coffee houses, it is third world. If you like go-go, you are out of luck.

[scubascuba3]

Yes Cambodia has several and Thailand none.
 
 

Hidden ones in Thailand, one off soi Buakhao

[Saltire]

55 minutes ago, tomster said:

To be honest I haven't got around to confirming this 100% yet, my understanding is that when you get a business visa, which you need to do to stay long term, your wife and kids can use that to apply for their long stay visas.

 

But others will have done this and can confirm.

Following this question - also interested to know.

 

[phuketrichard]

On 5/22/2019 at 2:22 AM, SteveK said:

Very "different" levels of:

 

- poverty and begging

- English proficiency

- food quality (still haven't met a farang who loves fish amok) 

- corruption

- perceived safety

- visa hassles

- chances of stepping on a mine

 

Just a bit too third-world for me, but you never know what's going to happen with Thailand's visa policies in the medium to long-term. The draught beer in Cambodia seems to be very good quality, and astounding value.

 

 

I lived there for 1 year 2008-09< have a Khmer gf here in Thailand for past 8 years , have land in Svay Rieng and Kep, go back to Cambodia every year.

moving back next year, fed up with Thailand after 32 years>>>

 

If people are saying its cheaper they have not lived there an only survive on local products and food

You even need pay for air for ur tires  LOL

 

Much more poverty and Begging , many more locals barely getting enough to get by.

English less than Thailand at Proficiency level, higher at daily level

I LOVE amok!!!, Khmer gf makes it all the time for me

Yep, lots of corruption for everything

safety?? ur joking>>>>

unless ur way way out in nowhere chances are very slim stepping on a mine

 

add;

 

easy extension if ur over 55, $280/year, no money in bank, no insurance

Everything official cost more money, drivers license, permits for marriage, any offical paper

local street food sucks compared to Thailand but yes it costs less but....
some half decent western food cheaper than Thailand.

Bad and unkept roads

Rentals outside of PP are overpriced and poor selection compared to much of Thailand

....You can live a better live style in Phuket for less than in SR, Kampot, Kep

Malls in PP comparable to Thailand (costs slightly higher for everything)  but outside PP (except sr) non existent
Interest in money in Bank>>> My Siam commercial bank pays 1.2% interest.  My Cambodian Prasac 1 year account pays 8% ( - 6% tax on interest)

Bars cheaper in Cambodia, ( $.50 local drafts are terrible, but Beer lao is only $1.50/bottle in bars

good ANYTHING costs more

 

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Are there still restrictions on a Cambodian girl marrying a foreigner ?

 

NO< changed nov, but you need show an income of $2,500.month

 

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According to new marriage requirements issued on by the Government of Cambodia on November 20, 2018,  male U.S. citizens wishing to marry Cambodian women must:

• Have a monthly income of at least US $2,500
  
  https://kh.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/additional-resources-u-s-citizens/getting-married-in-cambodia/

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In Cambodia he agent get $20, the VISA costs $280.

wrong, if u care to deal with immigration out by airport in PP and are prepared for it to take weeks and weeks it will cost ya $180

the other amount goes to the agent and corrupt immigration officials

[Scouse123]

Cambodia.

 

Pros:

 

No big visa hassles, No 90-day reports, no money in the bank or seasoning requirements, Work permits easy enough, Foreigners not hassled for working, Cambodians are generally pleasant in the main amongst the working classes at least, cheap cigarettes and alcohol, decent wifi cheap, good mix of international restaurants and people in Phnom Penn and Siem Reap. Some good hotels fairly cheap, tuk-tuks cheap and now also has Grab taxis. A great deposit rates for fixed terms in the banks.

 

Cons:

 

Poor hospitals regardless of what some say on here, ( You do not want to become seriously ill in Cambodia! ) Still very poor infrastructure even in Phnom Penn and Siem Reap, poor sanitation and roads, constant power outages, lack of good quality fresh produce in the markets, No beach resorts anymore that welcome us as Sihanoukville, which wasn't great, has been overrun by Chinese and become more dangerous. Unless employed, you can get bored quickly unless you are a bar fly.

 

Governments and Police in both countries are lousy and rotten with corruption. A concern Cambodia is leaning too far towards China.  Lack of real opportunities for the poorer classes in both countries. Cambodians are more eager to learn at school and work to fund their studies unlike rural Thais, who are by nature lazy.

 

Since the boom in development in Cambodia regards investment, a new greedy middle class has evolved and they are just as selfish as their Thai middle-class counterparts and treat the poor with disdain, they are highly visible and similar to Thais, driving around on red roads in SUVs and high-end cars.

 

I still think Cambodia has a long way to go to even compare with Thailand, which is miles ahead, the problem in both countries is the massively uneven distribution of wealth.

 

The bar scene regards prostitution does not interest me but I have been in them. Been in one, seen them all, same in all. There is far more to do in Thailand than Cambodia and far better infrastructure.

 

I personally would move to Vietnam if I left Thailand I think. Cheap accommodation, beer, and cigarettes but far better living space in my view and far more to see. Loads of clean beaches and fresh seafood. Visas can be overcome if you know the right people and you can stay there within the law.

[madmen]

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[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, tomster said:

There's nothing wrong with draught Angkor Beer for 50 cents!!!  ????

 

Agreed, I drank gallons, after the first two, all beer tastes the same.

[phuketrichard]

well i only drink at most 2, hence reason in Cambodia i never touch Khmer beers and stick with Beer Lao????

[Destiny1990]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

16 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Yes Cambodia has several and Thailand none.
 
 

Hidden ones in Thailand, one off soi Buakhao

Give it a try then Who knows you might be lucky..But I mean big legally operating casinos with restaurants foods entertainment etc.

As i said Cambodia has those Casinos and easier Visas besides that everything else is better and more comfortable in Thailand.

 

[phuketrichard]

kids can get student visas/extensions, ( ES)  even if not in school and up to 17 years old. Same price as other extensions.

Anyone can also get an ES extension if they are in a registered school and over 17, but need show proof of enough money to live on ( no idea how they figure that thou)

Cambodia does not have a marriage visa BUT they are allowing people married to Khmer's to get EB extensions ( minus the wp's) if its a legal marriage

 

So far there has NOT been a set limit of how many EG extensions ( looking for work) you can get so enter on an ordinary visa $35, apply for a 6 month EG    extension (apx $170), when its finished, leave and repeat.

 

The EB extension can be had if ur self employed as well

and of course the ER ( over 55) extensions

 

[Destiny1990]

46 minutes ago, vinniekintana said:

Casinos...what a great way to get rich! ????‍♂️

Well with your Gogo bars as an alternative to win then I prefer taking my chances in a casino with foods drinks and entertainment shows.

[Kaoboi Bebobp]

This has been a wickedly good thread. Thanks to all who presented great, informative, detailed information on Cambodia.

 

I agree with a lot of the posts. I lived in PP in 2011-12 and visited many many times since 2004. I still have a soft spot for PP. I'm in Vietnam now due to two of my best friends who moved here from, you guessed it, Bangkok. But am still considering moving back to Cambodia. Will visit again in June or July.

 

Thailand is out. [Insert colourful language here.] 

 

As for Vietnam, if you're thinking about it, try it. I'm not here to push my views on anyone. But, in no particular order, I'm not a big fan of Viet girls who are as hardcore as they come. The variety and quality of supermarket foods in VN is not on par with Thailand (or Phnom Penh). I really don't like it when Viet apartment hotels close the shutters at 10 or 11 pm. I've never felt more in harm's way than when I step into a Viet street with hundreds of motorcycles trying to kill me. And last but not least, the usual statement: I am nothing more than an ATM to the Viets of every age. Yadda yadda [more colourful language]. 

 

Off topic: phuketrichard wrote: 

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moving back [to Cambodia] next year, fed up with Thailand after 32 years>>>

 

I never thought I see you write this. Anyway, good luck. 

[marcusarelus]

2 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Give it a try then Who knows you might be lucky..But I mean big legally operating casinos with restaurants foods entertainment etc.

As i said Cambodia has those Casinos and easier Visas besides that everything else is better and more comfortable in Thailand.

 

How about heart surgery or after stroke care?  Better and more comfortable than Thailand? 

[Destiny1990]

56 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

How about heart surgery or after stroke care?  Better and more comfortable than Thailand? 

I said besides Casinos and Visa procedures everything else is in Thailand better in comparison with Cambodia.

That than also including hospitals. 

[marcusarelus]

1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said:

I said besides Casinos and Visa procedures everything else is in Thailand better in comparison with Cambodia.

That than also including hospitals. 

Limited and substandard healthcare

A major concern for travellers is the poor standard of medical facilities in Cambodia as most are not considered adequate to address serious illnesses.

 

https://closecircle.com/blog/staying-safe-in-cambodia/

[Johnnyngai]

On 5/22/2019 at 7:58 AM, connda said:

Same in most major American cities.  So no problem imho.  But then again, I'm a yank. 

In America's inner city ghettos, but not in any other American places. 

In the ghettos, you tell on the gangs, you die.  

In most American places, people own their own home and they care about their property value.   

[Johnnyngai]

21 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Agreed, I drank gallons, after the first two, all beer tastes the same.

In my case, after the first three, my face started to feel numb.  

[phycokiller]

On 5/23/2019 at 12:20 AM, madmen said:

Not looking for votes. tell us in what way is PP better than BKK? its not a trick question so take your time.

they arent comparable. BKK is one of the worlds biggest cities, PP is a lot more like a town with a rural feel to it.

[laspalmas]

Cambodia has no ocean only this cesspool soon to be called "One more Chinese sea"

[phycokiller]

obviously everyone has a different experience. I find the people more relaxed and less violent then thailand, but more likely to scam and steal. takes a while to get used to the scams because they arent really profitable for the scammers so they get you by surprise. it just seems to be something some of them have to try to feel good about themselves, just depends who you mix with, but you always have to be aware of it with everybody which is a bit tiring. other then that is a bit more primitive and edgy which I like but depends on your taste. PP is a lot quieter then bangkok or even pattaya in some ways but you can still find whatever you are looking for. its the kind of place that people dont initially like but end up staying. its not perfect but where else is there to go?

[madmen]

On 5/23/2019 at 5:02 PM, Destiny1990 said:

Well with your Gogo bars as an alternative to win then I prefer taking my chances in a casino with foods drinks and entertainment shows.

Nothin like a $500 steak and a crap beer

Same thing happens in OZ pensioners hit the clubs for the $7 roast and drop 50 in the pokies..A mugs game !

 

Give me a go go honey with her hands down my shorts for a $5 lady drink any day..I can get a 60 baht kebab on the way home lol

[Destiny1990]

4 minutes ago, madmen said:

Nothin like a $500 steak and a crap beer

Same thing happens in OZ pensioners hit the clubs for the $7 roast and drop 50 in the pokies..A mugs game !

 

Give me a go go honey with her hands down my shorts for a $5 lady drink any day..I can get a 60 baht kebab on the way home lol

Yes because you’re a classy dude.

[madmen]

1 minute ago, Destiny1990 said:

Yes because you’re a classy dude.

Because sitting in a shit casino that is 1 star throwing your hard earned away takes class? Enjoy ????

[Destiny1990]

32 minutes ago, madmen said:

Because sitting in a shit casino that is 1 star throwing your hard earned away takes class? Enjoy ????

The only reason i can think of why a gogo honey would have her hands in ur shorts is that she is looking to dig up some coins..????

Enjoy ur 0,60 Bht kebab!