British PM May resigns, paving way for Brexit confrontation with EU

[billd766]

On 5/25/2019 at 6:13 PM, david555 said:

But how many Brexit related votes you had lately in H.O.C. and even don't get it right !! 

It may amuse you to know that I am not a member of the HoC nor do I have any control over them. That will come at the next election.

[billd766]

On 5/25/2019 at 8:34 PM, sanemax said:

Worzal Gummidge ?

Isn't he the leader of the Labour party?

 

On 5/25/2019 at 8:47 PM, david555 said:

Sorry, wrong post.

 

Edited May 26, 2019 by billd766
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[billd766]

12 hours ago, stephenterry said:

So what's the point in leaving the Customs Union? Isn't existing trade agreements with the EU countries and over 50 other countries including Japan and S Korea outside the EU, sufficient? Just look at your supermarket shelves, and high street shops, full of goods from around the world, all because we're in the EU. 

Because the UK can choose who they trade with without 27 other countries saying "You can't do that".

[david555]

52 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Isn't he the leader of the Labour party?

 

 

If you like I can also completely change your posts like you changed this mine complete ,

….. but I think that is in breach of  forum rules !! 

Edited May 26, 2019 by david555

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, elliss said:

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

The Tories in coalition with Farage? Stranger things have happened! 

 

 What do both these parties  have in common, apart from etc.. 

Apart from etc.? Can you explain what you meant with this comment please?

[CG1 Blue]

13 hours ago, stephenterry said:

So what's the point in leaving the Customs Union? Isn't existing trade agreements with the EU countries and over 50 other countries including Japan and S Korea outside the EU, sufficient? Just look at your supermarket shelves, and high street shops, full of goods from around the world, all because we're in the EU. 

I would prefer it if the UK were in the driving seat when deciding on it's own trade policy.

And that trade deal between the EU and Japan? As a result of this the Japanese no longer need to have cars manufactured in Europe and can produce their cars in Japan going forward. How is that good for the UK? 

 

And as for your supermarket shelves, what makes you think there won't be goods from all around the world after Brexit? 

[Laughing Gravy]

On 5/25/2019 at 9:31 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

You can have as many wild speculations as you like.

 

But do you have any substance for your wild speculations?

Are you voting for the brexit party they are doing so well. You have to be British to do so though. Must be hurting being such a staunch europhile when France, Greece, UK and even Germany are putting 2 fingers up to the EU.

[Laughing Gravy]

On 5/25/2019 at 10:58 AM, david555 said:

You U.K. can leave at any moment if you're politicians just agree amongst each other … which is the problem ! But it is more easy to blame the E.U. for your own created politic mess isn't ? pathetic..

We will be leaving and taking our money with you. I am sure you can fill the EU gap with some of the "stans'. Good luck with that. seems other countries want out to. Rats and sinking ship come to mind. Nothing more pathetic that the EU threading countries saying look how hard it is to leave What a great club to be in. Reminiscent of the old German party in the 1930's.

Edited May 26, 2019 by Laughing Gravy

[sanemax]

13 hours ago, Basil B said:

I am waiting with interest as to the EU election results that will be announced tonight (03:00am Bangkok time).

And the Cambridge By-Election on Thursday. 

 

We may well see the much needed change to the stagnant 2 party system. 

Lib Dems and the Brexit party doing well , Conservative and Labour getting trounced into fourth and fifth place

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Lib Dems and the Brexit party doing well , Conservative and Labour getting trounced into fourth and fifth place

 

Count almost complete.

[stephenterry]

11 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

I would prefer it if the UK were in the driving seat when deciding on it's own trade policy.

And that trade deal between the EU and Japan? As a result of this the Japanese no longer need to have cars manufactured in Europe and can produce their cars in Japan going forward. How is that good for the UK? 

 

And as for your supermarket shelves, what makes you think there won't be goods from all around the world after Brexit? 

That's up to Japan, not the EU. As to supermarket goods ask yourself the question why ALL major supermarkets have completely stockpiled ALL their cold storage in preparation for Brexit. Go and ask to find out the truth.

[stephenterry]

12 hours ago, billd766 said:

Because the UK can choose who they trade with without 27 other countries saying "You can't do that".

Load of rubbish. A trade agreement is exactly that. And you can bet your bottom dollar that new trade agreements don't just materialise the day after Brexit - it takes the USA at least 2 years to reach an agreement, and a further year to implement it. It would be the same or worse for the UK, especially Japan and S Korea..

 

However, I do understand that existing agreements at the same tariffs with some other countries would continue post Brexit without needing to enter into a new agreement, which brings me back to my original question, what's the point?  

[stephenterry]

15 hours ago, elliss said:

     

     Corbyn  would need to be constipated, to try and force anything through .

    He wont be labour leader much longer,if he ever was a leader.

Enter Keir,  a good socialist name , soon to be Prime Minister..

 

 

I agree Sir Keir Starmer would be a good choice as he also has a moral compass, and the knowledge to destroy Johnson, should the latter get the PM post. 

[malagateddy]

That's up to Japan, not the EU. As to supermarket goods ask yourself the question why ALL major supermarkets have completely stockpiled ALL their cold storage in preparation for Brexit. Go and ask to find out the truth.

Maybe price war looming..buy 1 get 2 free??

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[stephenterry]

20 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

I agree.

 

MPs are mostly remainers - so their only possible hope is that another referendum may possibly give them the result for which they are looking...

It is simply not factual that MPs are mostly remainers. What they have been elected to do is to represent their constituency as what would benefit Britain. And a no-deal Brexit won't.  As they are all aware, jumping off a cliff edge like Farage's supporters without any plan is not the way forward.

 

 

[evadgib]

I'm thoroughly enjoying the coverage so far, despite the Beeb 'bigging-up' Mr Barraclough's Lib Dems and the SNP.

 

Here Farage reads the Tories their horoscope (????)

 

 

[stephenterry]

2 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Maybe price war looming..buy 1 get 2 free??

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More likely; 'it'll cost you to buy 1 and it's rationed, so be quick about it'.

[malagateddy]

More likely; 'it'll cost you to buy 1 and it's rationed, so be quick about it'.

Many supermarkets over here..all competing for customers[emoji6]

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[stephenterry]

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I'm thoroughly enjoying the coverage so far, despite the Beeb 'bigging-up' Mr Barraclough's Lib Dems and the SNP.

 

Here Farage reads the Tories their horoscope (????)

 

 

Yes, he is correct that we've got to get on with this. However his slant is different to mine, in that a no-deal is not a solution. A no confidence vote in the government would break the impasse if Johnson was elected, as a key number of Tory MP's would not support any attempt by Johnson to leave with a no-deal. Then a GE and it's all up for grabs.

[stephenterry]

6 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Many supermarkets over here..all competing for customers

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Maybe now, but not after Brexit, when they'll be competing for supplies. It'll be like the 70's Heath government with fuel rationing and electricity cuts, except it would be over a large range of goods that are just not readily available.

 

Wait and see...

[evadgib]

4 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

Yes, he is correct that we've got to get on with this. However his slant is different to mine, in that a no-deal is not a solution. A no confidence vote in the government would break the impasse if Johnson was elected, as a key number of Tory MP's would not support any attempt by Johnson to leave with a no-deal. Then a GE and it's all up for grabs.

- I don't think Johnson will get in &

- Parliament cannot further tamper with anything if interview(s) seen yesterday are to be believed (but I dare say they'll have a good try!)

[sanemax]

39 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

That's up to Japan, not the EU. As to supermarket goods ask yourself the question why ALL major supermarkets have completely stockpiled ALL their cold storage in preparation for Brexit. Go and ask to find out the truth.

The answer to your question is that there could be some delays if Brexit suddenly happens and two supermakets are getting extra supplies in , just incase there are any hold-ups

[stephenterry]

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

The answer to your question is that there could be some delays if Brexit suddenly happens and two supermakets are getting extra supplies in , just incase there are any hold-ups

That's the best laugh I've had this week. 'Just in case there are any hold-ups' with no Customs Union alternatives in place and most of Kent becoming a massive lorry park with tailbacks in both directions. I suppose they could fly goods in at inflated prices, though...

[malagateddy]

Maybe now, but not after Brexit, when they'll be competing for supplies. It'll be like the 70's Heath government with fuel rationing and electricity cuts, except it would be over a large range of goods that are just not readily available.
 
Wait and see...

I can eat various Thai food..so no worries..my friends in the UK are not worried either re their shopping.
No doubt the remainers project fear will soon build up to yet another " massive doom n gloom scenario " ...however the UK citizens will not buy into the remainers lies..just as they did not before the Brexit Ref.

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[stephenterry]

16 minutes ago, evadgib said:

- I don't think Johnson will get in &

- Parliament cannot further tamper with anything if interview(s) seen yesterday are to be believed (but I dare say they'll have a good try!)

It would be unconstitutional for any PM to ignore parliament and plow ahead with a no-deal. That would certainly result in a government no-confidence vote a few days before the leaving date, which result in a GE.

[stephenterry]

1 minute ago, malagateddy said:

I can eat various Thai food..so no worries..my friends in the UK are not worried either re their shopping.
No doubt the remainers project fear will soon build up to yet another " massive doom n gloom scenario " ...however the UK citizens will not buy into the remainers lies..just as they did not before the Brexit Ref.

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Try and get it straight. It's got nothing to do with remainers, but what's best for Britain. And today's consensus of opinion from the UK government and parliament is that any Brexit won't be best for Britain, but it's the best deal you're going to get.

[malagateddy]

Try and get it straight. It's got nothing to do with remainers, but what's best for Britain. And today's consensus of opinion from the UK government and parliament is that any Brexit won't be best for Britain, but it's the best deal you're going to get.

Well now..let us agree to DISAGREE[emoji6]

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[evadgib]

6 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

It would be unconstitutional for any PM to ignore parliament and plow ahead with a no-deal. That would certainly result in a government no-confidence vote a few days before the leaving date, which result in a GE.

No deal is nonetheless automatic come 31 October as per yesterdays interviews & there is still a challenge in the high court that hasn't gone away citing Gina Miller's case in reverse (ie that UK left on 29 March).

Edited May 27, 2019 by evadgib

[vogie]

There's one thing for certain going by local election results and now the EU results, if the Conservatives don't get us out of the EU (by hook or by crook) they will be history as a political party.

[stephenterry]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

No deal is nonetheless automatic come 31 October as per yesterdays interviews & there is still a challenge in the high court that hasn't gone away citing the Gina Miller's case in reverse (that UK left on 29 March).

Don't be concerned. That won't happen, according to one newly elected Liberal MEP. It's typical of the media to quote anything that is contentious. And one-sided. As usual.