Opponents of 'no-deal' Brexit defeat PM Johnson, who promises an election

[Nigel Garvie]

29 minutes ago, transam said:

More daft stuff, the "binding" referendum was taken 3 years back, in my book that is it, not bowing to cry babies like yourself.

The Brexit stalemate is solely with the politicians, nothing to do with the electorate. I find it very odd that you do not understand that..  

Can you come up with something a bit less childish than calling other TV members "Cry babies".

 

I have to say it again. 

Your hero Boris has lost his majority, lost his control of HoC business, lost his No deal brexit and lost his escape route attempt to get a GE.

Quite an achievement for his first full week in the House as PM. 

47 minutes ago, transam said:

You are one of the bad losers, going on your own rampage

It is clear that you really need to think about this a little...........he has lost his majority, lost his control of HoC business, lost his No deal brexit and lost his escape route attempt to get a GE. I don't think there is any question about who were the losers this last week, a blind wombat could work it out. The question is whether you want to be  a "Bad loser" - to use your words -  or accept your defeats (Plural) with a certain amount of grace.

Edited September 6, 2019 by Nigel Garvie
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[metisdead]

Offensive posts and replies have been removed.   Please don't refer to people as "remoaners", continue to do so and warnings will be issued.

[Jip99]

Presumably, ‘moaning remainers ‘ will continue to be appropriate.

[transam]

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

Try making a point and I'll reply to it. I don't reply to boring , repetitve Brexiteer rhetoric.

 

I made several valid points and you haven't argued against any of them. Why? Brexiteeres have no argument. You have no game.

Oh Danny boy, where do we go from here. You haven't made any valid points, all you do is conveniently "forget" what the populace voted for and come up with daft stuff, which in effect are just excuses...

 

The Brexit hiccup is purely down to Parliament infighting and not delivering what was voted for.

If I attach here, "Bridge over troubled water", will that make you happy today...?????

 

[beautifulthailand99]

5 hours ago, transam said:

Isn't it rather schoolboy-ish to call the UK's leader a "lying pig"...?

 

I am sure you are capable of writing like an adult regarding this topic...????

Lying pig is too good for him words that I would like to use for this putschist would get me banned here. The lying part is indisputable. Ok I will recant pig and change to toad. Gove reported he would vote for BRINO WA2 as it is , Johnson lies bleeding stabbed by his brother - they are panicking on board the Titanic. Soon the rats will be fighting and eating each other. 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/5-lies-half-truths-boris-19443586

[beautifulthailand99]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

Presumably, ‘moaning remainers ‘ will continue to be appropriate.

I can take it - will wear this badge with pride. ????????????

[beautifulthailand99]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Oh Danny boy, where do we go from here. You haven't made any valid points, all you do is conveniently "forget" what the populace voted for and come up with daft stuff, which in effect are just excuses...

 

The Brexit hiccup is purely down to Parliament infighting and not delivering what was voted for.

If I attach here, "Bridge over troubled water", will that make you happy today...?????

 

Soon we will have an election and you can pin your colours to the mast. And the election will not be advisory.

[Jip99]

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I can take it - will wear this badge with pride. ????????????

 

 

For someone who wears a “<deleted> Brexit” wristband, I am sure you will...???????? 

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

Presumably, ‘moaning remainers ‘ will continue to be appropriate.

Right now it is the leavers that are moaning.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Right now it is the leavers that are moaning.

And rightly so, the electorate are being taken the <deleted> of by MP's ballsing things up. I hope BJ sacks a few so they lose much of their nice pay cheque...

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

And rightly so, the electorate are being taken the <deleted> of by MP's ballsing things up. I hope BJ sacks a few so they lose much of their nice pay cheque...

Sack them, didn't know he employed them?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Sack them, didn't know he employed them?

In LOS we say..."Inactive Post".........????

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

In LOS we say..."Inactive Post".........????

You really don't know better, do you.

[transam]

Just now, stevenl said:

You really don't know better, do you.

Explain..?  ????

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Explain..?  ????

See post #801, which you clearly don't understand. So let me help you, who is employing MP's in the UK?

Edited September 6, 2019 by stevenl

[transam]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

See post #801, which you clearly don't understand. So let me help you, who is employing MP's in the UK?

We are, so......Am I right that the PM can take a minister down, move them on etc.?

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

We are, so......Am I right that the PM can take a minister down, move them on etc.?

Who is the boss of a minister and who of a MP?

[sammieuk1]

47 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

For someone who wears a “F@#k Brexit” wristband, I am sure you will...???????? 

I brought my Mrs a pair of knickers with that on to encourage easy surrender now their impossible keep on???? 

[beautifulthailand99]

59 minutes ago, transam said:

And rightly so, the electorate are being taken the <deleted> of by MP's ballsing things up. I hope BJ sacks a few so they lose much of their nice pay cheque...

dream on - the sackings are coming back to haunt and frustrate him - if he booted Cumming's out publically he could maybe begin a fightback for his tattered reputation which was all grandstanding , arrogant narcissism , jokes and piffle anyway.  The tories when this Brexit claque have been defeated are bigger than this bumbling baboon. Probably to be the worst and shortest PM in British history. All you who lauded and cheered him on hang your heads in shame. 

[AlexRich]

18 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

The only way, as far as I'm aware, the only way it can be put back to the house in the same session, is via another route. i.e. Boris calls for a vote of no confidence in himself. It would be interesting to see how he words that one! I suspect that if the bill fails on Monday, so would this vote. You'd have a situation of the government voting no confidence in themselves and the opposition voting confidence in the government. Unthinkable normally, but these are't normal times.

I believe that only the official opposition can call for a no confidence vote ... but in any case Labour etc could simply vote that they have confidence ... it’s just a tactic and is largely meaningless.

[AlexRich]

You get a bit sick listening to moaning leavers, who support every dirty trick in the book if it serves their purpose but cry foul at Remainers employing the same tactics.

 

Given their love of War analogies, it appears they “don’t like it up them”.

[Laughing Gravy]

9 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Seems like parliamentary representative democracy can’t be overturned by a manipulated non-binding referendum. That should make us happy indeed. 

 

 

 

 

That's common among the Europeans they ignore democracy when it suits them. As for manipulated that's comical as the whole EU project has been manipulated to the European countries and they have fallen, hook line and sinker for it.

[beautifulthailand99]

Corbyn now 2/1 to be next PM. Well Done Boris/Cumming's/Farage. It is Brexiters that are now in the Elephant Trap - with pied piper Farage cooing them into his corner. 

Edited September 6, 2019 by beautifulthailand99

[DannyCarlton]

2 hours ago, transam said:

And rightly so, the electorate are being taken the <deleted> of by MP's ballsing things up. I hope BJ sacks a few so they lose much of their nice pay cheque...

If the latest rumours are true, he's sacked the chief architect of balls ups. His brain, Damien Cummings.

[beautifulthailand99]

21 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

If the latest rumours are true, he's sacked the chief architect of balls ups. His brain, Damien Cummings.

The 'Excess' has Gove plotting with Cumming's to topple Boris - the gates of hell have really opened up for the Tory party. 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1174611/brexit-plot-boris-johnson-michael-gove-dominic-cummings-downing-street-eu-no-deal-latest

[SheungWan]

Oh Danny boy, where do we go from here. You haven't made any valid points, all you do is conveniently "forget" what the populace voted for and come up with daft stuff, which in effect are just excuses...
 
The Brexit hiccup is purely down to Parliament infighting and not delivering what was voted for.
If I attach here, "Bridge over troubled water", will that make you happy today...?[emoji4]
 

It didn't vote for no-deal Brexit. That's a lying spin put on by Hard Brexiteers.

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[3NUMBAS]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1174202/brexit-news-BBC-john-curtice-boris-johnson-election-prediction-nigel-farage-no-deal-bill

 

Polling guru John Curtice warns rebel 'surrender' bill does NOT rule out a no deal Brexit

SIR JOHN CURTICE claimed the bill pushed through by Tory rebels and Remainers to attempt to thwart a no deal Brexit, dubbed the 'surrender bill' by the Prime Minister, does not fully rule out Boris Johnson’s 'do or die' plan.

By Claire Anderson

[Bruntoid]

9 hours ago, transam said:

Agreed, makes me think back to a time when the UK had Black Shirt fascist and Communist Parties which were supported by a minority of Brit nutters. Thankfully that episode has past, but seems something new is raising it's ugly head in the UK...

Not my ex is it ? 

[Bruntoid]

8 hours ago, transam said:

That is my point, these "parties" will always have a following...????

 

Just like you and many others, including MP's, are disregarding what the UK voted for. I find that a stab in the back to democracy...

What they voted for in 2016 but wouldn’t any longer - I call that democracy in progress - you need to get up to speed 

 

Three cheers for democracy hip hip 

[Bruntoid]

8 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

The stab in the back for democracy was Boris Cummings prorogueing parliament for 5 weeks at a crucial time for Brexit. Please remember that the UK is a parliamentary democracy and the referendum was advisory.

 

You also need to accept the fact that if the referendum were held tomorrow, remain would win the day. If you disagree, call for a confirmatory vote.

The last paragraph says it all, it really does. If PM Cummings called for a second referendum and the result was leave it would be a 100% slam dunk for leave - game over. 

 

Why won’t they ? Because they would lose, people are informed now leaving the xenophobes sidelined. 

 

So they cling on to a referendum over THREE years old and bleat democracy is being denied. 

 

If so sure call for for an update and find out - why so scared ? 

 

Bojo could do this ,respect the result either way and stay PM FOR 5 years instead of staring down the barrels as he is now.