Why all the discontent?

[SteveK]

Bargirls are like casinos. You go in expecting to lose money but have some fun. The guys who go in expecting more are fools.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Sorry for asking .

I just wondered why you like being noticed and feel the need for females to be attracted to you .

  I hate all that attention and I prefer the anonymity of being among my own people in my own Country .

  I dislike Females who notice me as their next job/payday , young ladies looking and smiling at me and thinking "New iphone 5" .

  I am not bitter at ball, I dislike all that attention and I just wondered why you liked it, anyway, sorry for asking 

   

 

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IMO it is preferable having someone smiling at you than scowling at you, irrespective of the motivations one may attribute to them. Which may be true, or completely erroneous. I suppose it depends on whether you are inherently negative or positive about other people. And nobody has to punch the ticket if they don't want to.

I simply don't worry about other females. I have enough on my hands with one. I do enjoy eye candy, which I guess would be in short supply in the UK, unless you like thighs and calves like tree trunks.

If you are saying you are not bitter, you are giving a remarkably good imitation.

[sanemax]

19 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IMO it is preferable having someone smiling at you than scowling at you, irrespective of the motivations one may attribute to them. Which may be true, or completely erroneous. I suppose it depends on whether you are inherently negative or positive about other people. And nobody has to punch the ticket if they don't want to.

I simply don't worry about other females. I have enough on my hands with one. I do enjoy eye candy, which I guess would be in short supply in the UK, unless you like thighs and calves like tree trunks.

If you are saying you are not bitter, you are giving a remarkably good imitation.

Whilst I do agree that its better to having someone smile at you rather than scowling  , I do prefer it when they do neither  , just ignore me and dont smile or scowl .

   I dont want , seek or like any stranger giving me attention for no reason .

You seem to like the attention of females wanting you as their next customer , whilst I just view them as being annoying and parasites .

  Females in the UK are built like adult females , rather than thai females who have child like bodies (and mentality) 

[EVENKEEL]

34 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Whilst I do agree that its better to having someone smile at you rather than scowling  , I do prefer it when they do neither  , just ignore me and dont smile or scowl .

   I dont want , seek or like any stranger giving me attention for no reason .

You seem to like the attention of females wanting you as their next customer , whilst I just view them as being annoying and parasites .

  Females in the UK are built like adult females , rather than thai females who have child like bodies (and mentality) 

Nothing wrong with being a chubby chaser, enjoy.

[sanemax]

13 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Nothing wrong with being a chubby chaser, enjoy.

I am happy and content being single and thus dont cha

se anything

[Traubert]

On 11/4/2019 at 8:13 PM, AussieBob18 said:

Ditto.  I understand and accept the crackdown, but it was supposed to be just the bad guys.  They have cracked down on the good guys, and every day the bad guys just ignore it all.  If caught they leave and pay 20,000 Baht fine for over-stay.  If one of them stays 2 years - that means it cost them 10K Baht a year, and no 90 day reports, no TM30s, and no Annual Extensions hassles and costs - a bargain if you dont intend to return.  They have completely stuffed this up - unless what they did want to do was to drive out and keep out as many Farangs as they can (like China has over the last few years).  I could not find it, but there was an article recently by a blogger who has been in China for about 15 years, and their changes for Expats in last 5 years are like those in in Thailand.  Leave the house for 24 hours and you have to report - that is a Communist State.

 

 

 

That blogger was talking nonsense. You have to re-register your address when you leave China and return. No other requirement at all. They say within 24 hours but I've been as late as six weeks.  No recriminations.

 

Basic rules havent changed in five years. The last big change was that you cant renew a tourist visa within China. You have to go home. At a stroke this removed the illegal workers, mostly unqualified ESL teachers and made perfect sense. My resi permit is three years based on marriage and costs peanuts.  I've had one address check in 13 years by way of the PSB knocking on the door. I dont have to do any reporting at all save if I leave the country.

 

Now they give transit passengers free 144 hour visa waivers for a spot of sightseeing if they want to. Sounds more progressive than Thailand to me.

[Cryingdick]

On 11/4/2019 at 6:35 AM, bwpage3 said:

Who can predict what any country will be like in 10 years?

 

That is just ridiculous.

 

Thailand is still the third world anyway you look at it. 

 

Politicians get into politics to control budgets to make themselves rich. Therefore the country never moves forward. Ever!

 

Depending on who is in charge of the govt, the policies can either favor or hinder expats.

 

Right now the policies seem to be anti-expat

 

Currency? No one that retired to Thailand predicted the currency would depreciate so much and are now forced to live with it.

 

Who knows what the currency will do in 10 years? Might be more expensive than your home country?

 

The big question is HOW many people would have moved to Thailand in the first place if NOT for the cheap and easily available women, who will marry almost anyone?

 

Thailand is overcrowded, pollution is getting worse ever year, traffic is already at nightmare levels, flooding, monsoons, heat and humidity, mosquitoes, etc. What exactly is the big attraction about living in all that?

 

I really think if people had the money required to retire in comfort in their own countries, they would have never picked Thailand. Go to Thailand a month or 2 to play around, sure, but move there and have no bridge to get back? No Thanks.

 

However, if you want to rent a 1 room flat in your golden years and chase bar girls, this is probably the place for you.

 

The government can pass any policy they want, increase financial requirements to stay, mandatory insurance, you name it. Their country, their rules.

 

Thailand has taken such a dive the past 2 years, cannot even image 10 years from now?

 

 

 

Another thing that seems be common is a lot of these guys retired early and took less to come to Thailand early. After that many of them emptied their investments. At one point if you remember well it was so cheap everybody spent all their money.

 

So it isn't only that prices went up but that sure compounds problems when you spend a decade of what should have been years of earnings and savings to be in country with rapidly growing inflation.

[cyril sneer]

12 hours ago, sanemax said:

I can talk to them online from the UK .

I can sit in the UK and talk to those girls on facebook live and see you sat next to them buying them drinks in bars .

  

do you use google streetview instead of travelling?

[sanemax]

10 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

do you use google streetview instead of travelling?

I do sometimes , yes .

Went to the Faviolas in Brazil today

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

So it isn't only that prices went up but that sure compounds problems when you spend a decade of what should have been years of earnings and savings to be in country with rapidly growing inflation.

Inflation is almost zero in Thailand.

Only my currency exchange rate has dropped.

Home repayments, less as the interest rate has dropped (6.25% to 5.85%).

Water and electricity same as they were 10 years back.

Internet same price as 10 years back (631bht) but a lot faster with fibre.

Scooter petrol cheaper, was 33bht in 2009, 25bht yesterday.

 

Pork is more expensive.

Hookers and bars cost a lot more, but I'm too old to use them these days.

I was spending 60k/month in 2009 as a single guy renting a room.

I now spend 40k/month supporting 2 kids and a woman and buying a house.

Edited November 7, 2019 by BritManToo

[FarFlungFalang]

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Hookers and bars cost a lot more, but I'm too old to use them these days.

So for you they actually cost you a lot less these days!

[AussieBob18]

11 hours ago, Traubert said:

That blogger was talking nonsense. You have to re-register your address when you leave China and return. No other requirement at all. They say within 24 hours but I've been as late as six weeks.  No recriminations.

 

Basic rules havent changed in five years. The last big change was that you cant renew a tourist visa within China. You have to go home. At a stroke this removed the illegal workers, mostly unqualified ESL teachers and made perfect sense. My resi permit is three years based on marriage and costs peanuts.  I've had one address check in 13 years by way of the PSB knocking on the door. I dont have to do any reporting at all save if I leave the country.

 

Now they give transit passengers free 144 hour visa waivers for a spot of sightseeing if they want to. Sounds more progressive than Thailand to me.

Thanks for that - much appreciated.  Clearly the Chinese Authorities have a much better approach to treating Expats and Tourists than Thailand - maybe they can pass their wisdom and experiences on to the Thais? 

[Bournville]

On 11/4/2019 at 6:24 PM, sanemax said:

What is the reason and logic behind it ?

Is it because that if there is a crime commited , the Police know where the culprits will be staying ?

Exactly. Before I rob a bank in another city I always file my TM28. Gotta stay legal 555. 

[AlexRich]

6 hours ago, sanemax said:

I do sometimes , yes .

Went to the Faviolas in Brazil today

 

Next door to the favela's?

 

 

[AlexRich]

On 11/6/2019 at 5:34 AM, Lacessit said:

I do wonder what would happen if a professional armed force was to invade Thailand. IMO the grunts would be running for the hills, and the brass would be commandeering the air force to fly to Switzerland.

They'd use the submarine.

[bkk6060]

If one is not impotent.

Likes staying active and healthy playing golf, the gym, etc.

Likes good food and has plenty of money to enjoy this place, it is all fantastic.

 

Unfortunately, many do not fit so they continue with their depressed, discontent life and due to their insecurities and mostly poor life decisions comment negatively here.  In some way it makes them feel better, but the reality of life is in the mirror..

Edited November 7, 2019 by bkk6060

[madmen]

7 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

If one is not impotent.

Likes staying active and healthy playing golf, the gym, etc.

Likes good food and has plenty of money to enjoy this place, it is all fantastic.

 

Unfortunately, many do not fit so they continue with their depressed, discontent life and due to their insecurities and mostly poor life decisions comment negatively here.  In some way it makes them feel better, but the reality of life is in the mirror..

Its always about the money. I have a chuckle when I read posts " they dont want us here , Im taking my money to Cambodia"   Translated says Im busted arsed pensioner and Im screwed and am forced to leave Thailand

[Bournville]

On 11/4/2019 at 8:29 PM, Victornoir said:

The demographic progression...

In response to the OP the imperative condition to be happy in Thailand is to comfortably meet the financial requirements.
Advantages are:
 - Quick and easy access to pretty women, sexy, feminine and cuddly.
 - The low price of rentals and hotel rooms with decent comfort.
 - The prices of all services (restaurant, mechanics, health, various care...) incredibly low.
 - Easy access to western products.
 - Groceries open all night and offering the essentials.
 - Friendly and efficient administration (if you do not cheat).
 - Most often elegant and varied landscapes.

 

The inconvenients:
 - Invasive plastic waste.
 - Local relations based on money.
 - Local cuisine far below its reputation.
 - The language difficult and repulsive.
 - The price of wine

Cheese! You forgot to mention good cheese. 

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, madmen said:

Its always about the money. I have a chuckle when I read posts " they dont want us here , Im taking my money to Cambodia"   Translated says Im busted arsed pensioner and Im screwed and am forced to leave Thailand

Although the Visa situation is why most have and will be leaving , because theres not much price difference between Camdobia and Thailand 

[madmen]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Although the Visa situation is why most have and will be leaving , because theres not much price difference between Camdobia and Thailand 

Yep its the prices attached to the visa 

[madmen]

1 hour ago, Bournville said:

Cheese! You forgot to mention good cheese. 

Or anything from a good deli. 

[sanemax]

10 minutes ago, madmen said:

Yep its the prices attached to the visa 

Prices and money may be a factor in some peoples decision , but its not the sole reason for every person who decided to leave Thailand for good

[NoshowJones]

On 11/4/2019 at 6:14 PM, mauGR1 said:

A bit harsh imho, but it's true that some 20 years ago the place was happier.

It's not harsh, it's the truth.

[NoshowJones]

On 11/4/2019 at 6:28 PM, jpeezy said:

Wow, I was not aware of that. How is that enforced?

You haven't been reading Thaivisa much, have you?

[NoshowJones]

On 11/4/2019 at 6:33 PM, mauGR1 said:

I was not aware of it too, until few months ago. I used to spend weeks in my girl friend home, and the opposite.

It's not really enforced, but in theory, if you don't report, you are breaking the law. afaik.

If any law is unfair and you think you can get away with breaking it, then do so. If I obeyed every law in the UK, I would not be in Thailand today.

[mauGR1]

37 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

It's not harsh, it's the truth.

Well, i still like to live in Thailand, the weather is great in the winter, compared to home country, and most of the people are lovely, so i don't have a lot of reasons to complain.

[NoshowJones]

1 minute ago, mauGR1 said:

Well, i still like to live in Thailand, the weather is great in the winter, compared to home country, and most of the people are lovely, so i don't have a lot of reasons to complain.

What you say is true, it is some of the immigration issues and dreadful road behavior that are the problems.

[mauGR1]

1 minute ago, possum1931 said:

What you say is true, it is some of the immigration issues and dreadful road behavior that are the problems.

The roads are frickin' dangerous, i used to enjoy lots of motorbike trips, not anymore, it will probably take some more 10 years for the locals to learn to drive like normal people.

As for the rest, what can i say, i am lucky that i have a place to go if i feel like.

[pgrahmm]

For God's sake, how could some not be.....

They come here & rent a flat/room that's barely bigger than a closet.....They have 4 walls to stare at maybe 4 meters apart....

They start hitting same the clubs/bars over and over....

They eat at the same places over and over....

That fine brown pussy starts looking the same after 10-20-50-100....The same inane games played over and over.....

No real friends, just the same recycled bar types.....

No real aspirations, no active living - just the same rehash day in and day out.....

Trapped without decent transportation, if they don't have a vehicle.....

They're locked into the same routine/rut day after day, week after week, year after year....The same experiences over and over = of course the disappointments are everyone else's fault....They go out and keep the same crowd hoping for change.....

They're stuck in a depressing merry go round in a place they never took the time and effort to understand - let alone actually try and like....

They're clinically depressed & it's the fault of everyone else - easy to point those fingers than to actually do anything about it....Someplace else MUST be better, only it isn't, because the root problem is still there = themselves.....

They weren't much different in the place they came from.....Add on another layer of discontentment.....

 

 

Edited November 7, 2019 by pgrahmm

[BritManToo]

17 minutes ago, pgrahmm said:

For God's sake, how could some not be.....

They come here & rent a flat/room that's barely bigger than a closet.....

They start hitting same the clubs/bars over and over....

They eat at the same places over and over....

That fine brown pussy starts looking the same after 10-20-50-100....The same inane games played over and over.....

No real friends, just the same recycled bar types.....

No real aspirations, no active living - just the same rehash day in and day out.....

Trapped without decent transportation, if they don't have a vehicle.....

They're locked into the same routine/rut day after day, week after week, year after year....The same experiences over and over = of course the disappointments are everyone else's fault....They go out and keep the same crowd hoping for change.....

They're stuck in a depressing merry go round in a place they never took the time and effort to understand - let alone actually try and like....

They're clinically depressed & it's the fault of everyone else - easy to point those fingers than to actually do anything about it....Someplace else MUST be better, only it isn't, because the root problem is still there = themselves.....

They weren't much different in the place they came from.....Add on another layer of discontentment.....

 

 

Hardly any of that applies to me,

I have a large house, decent garden, two kids and a much younger (hired) lover, a pickup truck, 2 scooters, 4 bicycles ........

And I'm still discontent.

 

I think it's more about life not being what I was always told it would be ..........

loving wife aging together with you, kids growing up, grand-kids to play with at Xmas, slippers by the fire in winter, etc.

 

All a crock of pooh,

you learn your wife never loved you, your kids want you to die so they can inherit, and your country loves everyone but white men, and you're getting older and sicker all the time. As far as I can see the only people not discontent are fools, I always felt stupid people generally lived happier lives than me.

 

Quite frankly, I wish I'd died 15 years back in my 40s before my parents died, and everyone else I ever really loved betrayed me and my life turned to poop.

Edited November 7, 2019 by BritManToo