should a restaurant show, by law, a price including tax in a special menu?

[Yabiaomer]

Well, Merry Christmas. I went to a well known restaurant to celebrate Christmas lunch with friends. The special Christmas menu showed a price of 1,390 baht. When the bill came, it showed 1,390+7% tax. Nowhere in the special menu was mentioned that the price DOES NOT include tax. Should a restaurant show a price with tax included or not? (name of the restaurant is not important, so don't ask ..)

[Ron jeremy]

Nothing new to me, in Canada this is the way.

what pisses me off is when I see a 15 percent service charge on the final bill.

when I see this I will never return.

i beleive its up to the customer if they wish to tip or not, which I do. If service warrants it.

[ThomasThBKK]

It's kinda normal here....Not even service charge. Sure it should display that somehow but meh....? really complaining about 7% on a thousand baht bill?

Edited December 25, 2019 by ThomasThBKK

[thaibeachlovers]

Amazes me that anyone lives in LOS and expects it to be like "back home".

They will do whatever they like.

That's not to say that they shouldn't, as they should.

Not a problem for me as I never used restaurants that would have cost that much to eat at.

7% of 150 baht doesn't amount to much.

[amexpat]

6 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said:

It's kinda normal here....Not even service charge. Sure it should display that somehow but meh....? really complaining about 7% on a thousand baht bill?

So only the amount matters - not the principal?

[Don Mega]

When they pull that <deleted> I just treat the 7% as the tip I would have normally left.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, amexpat said:

So only the amount matters - not the principal?

LOS is the wrong country to ask for principles in.

[Dante99]

6 hours ago, Yabiaomer said:

Nowhere in the special menu was mentioned that the price DOES NOT include tax.

And nowhere was it mentioned that it included tax.

 

And the main menu of that restaurant has prices to which tax is added later so clearly that is the way they were going to do it.

[chuang]

Hope it didn't spoil your Christmas mood....for a few bahts...

[Trujillo]

Quote

"Nothing new to me, in Canada this is the way."

What does Canada have to do with pricing in Chiang Mai? 

 

I was just in a restaurant today that had NO prices, just menu items. 

If you have to ask, you can't afford it....

[KhunBENQ]

Annoying is the "each to his own" handling.

MOST dining/eating places that I know show all incl. prices.

On the other hand almost all telecommunication prices are excl. tax.

 

It seems an attitude of "hiso" places to display excl. prices.

Example: "Chefs Table", Lebua Tower:

May make them look "cosmopolitan", not to irritate customers from "excl. countries" like US, Canada, ?

 

8200 + 7500 = 15700 excl., 18369 incl.

 

 

Edited December 26, 2019 by KhunBENQ

[Don Mega]

3 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Annoying is the "each to his own" handling.

MOST dining/eating places that I know show all incl. prices.

On the other hand almost all telecommunication prices are excl. tax.

 

It seems an attitude of "hiso" places to display excl. prices.

Example: "Chefs Table", Lebua Tower:

May make them look "cosmopolitan", not to irritate customers from "excl. countries" like US, Canada, ?

 

 

 

how in <deleted> does one eat a 7 course meal ?

[KhunBENQ]

3 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

how in <deleted> does one eat a 7 course meal ?

You get magnifying glasses for each course.

It's called haute cuisine, fine dining

 

They got their first Michelin star.

Just wait for the second.

Edited December 26, 2019 by KhunBENQ

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

You get magnifying glasses for each course.

It's called haute cuisine, fine dining

 

They got their first Michelin star.

Just wait for the second.

Ohhhhhhh, those kinda meals that you stop at McDonald's on the way home for a feed cause you still hungry !!

[ChipButty]

I dont like 7% vat and 10% service charge on my beer especially when they are charging over the odd's to start with

[ChipButty]

6 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Ohhhhhhh, those kinda meals that you stop at McDonald's on the way home for a feed cause you still hungry !!

Pleasing to the eye they say

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

I dont like 7% vat and 10% service charge on my beer especially when they are charging over the odd's to start with

what are the odd's ?

[wgdanson]

9 hours ago, Don Mega said:

When they pull that <deleted> I just treat the 7% as the tip I would have normally left.

But then you are tipping Mr Prayut!

[Don Mega]

5 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

But then you are tipping Mr Prayut!

Everyone gets a slice !!

 

Ive no beef with Prayut and would rather give him coin than some scumbag dishonest restaurant owner.

 

In saying that the restaurant is prolly dodgy and does not pass on the VAtTto the government !!

Edited December 26, 2019 by Don Mega

[sandyf]

36 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Annoying is the "each to his own" handling.

MOST dining/eating places that I know show all incl. prices.

On the other hand almost all telecommunication prices are excl. tax.

 

It seems an attitude of "hiso" places to display excl. prices.

Example: "Chefs Table", Lebua Tower:

May make them look "cosmopolitan", not to irritate customers from "excl. countries" like US, Canada, ?

 

8200 + 7500 = 15700 excl., 18369 incl.

 

 

I think you are right about it being linked to clientele, mainly for those on expenses.

The UK is legally inclusive and when I was working I always had to ask for a tax receipt.

[fruitman]

Yes it should be law to show prices included EVERYTHING....but hey this is the Land Of Scams.....

[Vacuum]

53 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

how in <deleted> does one eat a 7 course meal ?

Very small (but expensive) meals on a big plate?

[Thomas J]

16 hours ago, Yabiaomer said:

When the bill came, it showed 1,390+7% tax. Nowhere in the special menu was mentioned that the price DOES NOT include tax.

yabiaomer now come on.  When do ANY prices include the 7% VAT.  I don't know what country you are from but in the USA things like VAT which in the USA is called a sales tax in never included.  I have never seen any store or restaurant in Thailand also include the VAT.  Now if they include a gratuity, that should be disclosed up front but I would think most people would expect that they will get hit with the VAT on top of whatever price they see in a store or restaurant. 

[Vacuum]

16 hours ago, Yabiaomer said:

Should a restaurant show a price with tax included or not?

They should show the price that they want for the dish/menu. Tax should be 'up to them'.

[Crossy]

It does seem to be the "better" places that show exclusive prices (perhaps that's why they're labelled "exclusive"). Most of the places I use are what you see is what you pay.

 

Try Malaysia where the prices are often +++ (sales tax, luxury tax, service charge) ????

 

[Don Mega]

5 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

They should show the price that they want for the dish/menu. Tax should be 'up to them'.

tax is 7% so not really up to them.

[Trujillo]

The man who doesn't know what a seven-course meal is should get out more often. 

 

Try a kaiseki or a dégustation (which can have more courses that the first class passengers did on the Titanic). 

Edited December 26, 2019 by Trujillo

[jackdd]

1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

I have never seen any store or restaurant in Thailand also include the VAT.

Have you ever been to any store in Thailand? They all include the VAT.

Just some restaurants who think they are fancy don't include it.

[Gweiloman]

3 hours ago, Trujillo said:

What does Canada have to do with pricing in Chiang Mai? 

 

I was just in a restaurant today that had NO prices, just menu items. 

If you have to ask, you can't afford it....

Most of the places I eat in don’t display prices either. But then, it’s so cheap that even minimum wage earners can afford to eat there. 

[Yabiaomer]

I read a lot of interesting opinions here .. however, my question was mainly about the law in Thailand. The restaurants, supermarkets, markets and a lot more where I shop, even massage shops show prices including all. Should shops in Thailand, by law display prices including all? That's my question