Happy New Year....immigration swoop on 83 year old Brit on 4,929 day overstay

[jlwilliamsjr18]

Frankly this is very disturbing. Considering just how much the government looks the other way, when bigger crimes are committed. I see them every day. 

[JAG]

37 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

If they survive from 30 feet, they have earned em I guess not even enough time to open a shute really

The "jump" is done from a 10 metre tower, with your harness attached to a line which controls the speed at which you fall. 

 

The wings and medals business is a joke! As is describing an 83 year old on overstay as a criminal.

 

It is unlikely that he has any money, or anyone to fund his flight to the UK. His chances don't look good in IDC. I am sure that the British Consular officials will be fully engaged - elsewhere...

Edited January 4, 2020 by JAG

[Odysseus123]

3 minutes ago, jlwilliamsjr18 said:

Frankly this is very disturbing. Considering just how much the government looks the other way, when bigger crimes are committed. I see them every day. 

Well..yes of course..but they exult in them on The Nation..

 

Never seen such gut grubbing,graaping,snitching,virtue signalling expat losers in my life..

 

It is very good to be away from them.

[EricTh]

17 minutes ago, JAG said:

His overstay probably predates the implementation of computer records.

Even if there was no computer system 13 years ago which I find it strange because this is the 21st century, the owner of the place that he stayed during the past few years must have reported his stay as required by law.

 

Edited January 4, 2020 by EricTh

[FritsSikkink]

4 hours ago, colinneil said:

How pathetic coming out with a comment like... Got to rid Thailand of criminal elements and foster peace and stability in the Kingdom.????

Silly bug++r is just a long time overstayer, criminal, seriously!!!

criminal

[ˈkrim(ə)n(ə)l]

NOUN

1. a person who has committed a crime.

    

   synonyms:

   lawbreaker · offender · villain · delinquent · malefactor · culprit · wrongdoer

[yogi100]

3 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

How arrogant.

Criminals like him breaking the law just make it more difficult and create changes for those of us who follow the law.

Good riddance..

 

Sick!

[Sticky Wicket]

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

criminal

[ˈkrim(ə)n(ə)l]

 

NOUN

1. a person who has committed a crime.

    

   synonyms:

   lawbreaker · offender · villain · delinquent · malefactor · culprit · wrongdoer

Every person who leaves the house in Thailand without underwear is committing a crime

I'm sure you would be happy for them to be sent to the gulag too

[Odysseus123]

2 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

criminal

[ˈkrim(ə)n(ə)l]

 

NOUN

1. a person who has committed a crime.

    

   synonyms:

   lawbreaker · offender · villain · delinquent · malefactor · culprit · wrongdoer

Gee!

 

Another bright spark flashes across the Milky Way and crashes God knows where...

[FritsSikkink]

Just now, Sticky Wicket said:

Every person who leaves the house in Thailand without underwear is committing a crime

I'm sure you would be happy for them to be sent to the gulag too

Nobody is sent to the gulag, they go to their home country.

[FritsSikkink]

Just now, Odysseus123 said:

Gee!

 

Another bright spark flashes across the Milky Way and crashes God knows where...

God doesn't exist

[RJRS1301]

3 minutes ago, EricTh said:

Even if there was no computer system 13 years ago which I find it strange because this is the 21st century, the owner of the place that he stayed during the past few years must have reported his stay as required by law.

 

He may well have been in a private rental property, owned by friends of thai realtives? 

No reporting ever done, or owned a house on leased land , who knows

 

[transam]

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

Much more likely that he's not an Alzheimer sufferer but, even if he is, are they exempt from the visa regs?

 

You're asking about compassion but there is no indication that the IOs are not being compassionate.  He's been arrested, yes (what else would they be expected to do?) but that doesn't mean that no compassion has been shown subsequently.

No wonder you never got nominated for "Poster of the Year"................????

[wtfracing]

Not a good age in life to be going through this mess hope it all works out for him and he gets the sympathy and respect his age deserves from all concerned.

[Sticky Wicket]

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

God doesn't exist

You hope!

[RJRS1301]

2 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

3 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

Every person who leaves the house in Thailand without underwear is committing a crime

I'm sure you would be happy for them to be sent to the gulag too

Nobody is sent to the gulag, they go to their home country.

With or without underwear?

UK in winter after 13 years could be considered by some to be a gulag, especially under BJ

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, RJRS1301 said:

With or without underwear?

UK in winter after 13 years could be considered by some to be a gulag, especially under BJ

So how does the UK winter or their <deleted> government become a Thai government problem?

[legend49]

4 hours ago, BestB said:

Oh yeah, no doubt he was A hardcore criminal 

real thai heroes I think not.  An 83 yr old female criminal. F#S

[Ramen087]

How about escorting the guy to immigration and helping him get a new retirement Visa as a measure of good will?

[FritsSikkink]

5 hours ago, Ramen087 said:

How about escorting the guy to immigration and helping him get a new retirement Visa as a measure of good will?

Sure, you are going to pay for his healthcare too? 

[kiwikeith]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

hmmmm .... 83 and will be going back,  it won't be a very nice home coming.

I expect he has nothing except the OAP

Most likely he ran out of money, and his GF snitched on him to get rid of him.

However he did well to stay under the radar that long

 

 

 

 

[RJRS1301]

5 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

  6 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

How about escorting the guy to immigration and helping him get a new retirement Visa as a measure of good will?

Why?

Do it for one person about whom we have no first hand knowledge, and a precendent has been set.

How would you define the boundaries for this gesture? 

He has not conformed in 13 years, but you want compassioante grounds established?

 

[Ramen087]

4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Sure, you are going to pay for his healthcare too? 

It’s 1900 baht per year for a non-o retirement visa. And he’d pay it himself. 

[Assurancetourix]

4 hours ago, geronimo said:

How on earth would the public know whether anyone is overstaying? It isn't something you'd advertise ....

 

You know that here national sport is delation; 
he was wrong to live next to ass.holes who had better take care not to leave the keys of their motorbikes on the machine and avoid drinking AND driving.
They realized that the old man had not left his house for a long time and instead of taking care of their business went to bring the thing to immigration.

Well, we don't see POTY 2019 anymore on the forum, what does she think about that ?

[Ramen087]

10 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Why? Do it for one person about whom we have no first hand knowledge, and a precendent has been set. How would you define the boundaries for this gesture?  He has not conformed in 13 years, but you want compassioante grounds established?

You need to lighten up. It’s a one-off situation with an elderly guy. And good press for immigration. Do you really think there’s going to be a plethora of low to mid 80 year old expats on a thirteen year overstay flooding immigration? You get him a visa that he pays for himself, and go from there.

Edited January 4, 2020 by Ramen087

[Aussiepeter]

I guess this chap successfully beats my late best-friend and well known (in C Mai anyway) author 'Mae-Taeng David', who successfully lived in LOS for 24 years, including his last 8 years and nine months on overstay. He only chose that option after the Taksin govt decided to change the rules to "kick out those they considered riff-raff" i.e. poorer farang, including people like him who had ALWAYS complied with the law and ALWAYS had a lawful Non-O (married visa). 

He survived on a small pension from the UK (ex Royal Marines) plus his lawful Thai wife worked every day, peeling garlic for 80-120 baht or, in any other menial job. He did a quarterly visa-run to Penang, or Burma or Laos until one day, a rude female IO in Vientiane informed him that "this will be your LAST visa, as we are getting rid of all the people like you out of our country". Always polite, speaking Thai with a cockney accent, he asked in Thai "what about my wife" ? Lady just snubbed him. He returned home to Mae Taeng, very bitter. The irony is the Border Patrol regularly called upon him to teach English for 200 baht an hour - and, they did so right up until he had a stroke and died, at the age of 66 in 2008 ! JAG - he too used to laugh at all the medal ribbons the locals wore - one day we saw a postmaster with SAS para wings ! God Bless You David. I bet he is looking down right now and laughing at all the who-ha over the 83 y.o. overstayer. But his record is now gone and so is he. One of nature's real English gentlemen.

[natway09]

Thats the way boys, go catch the dangerous ones first

[Odysseus123]

7 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

You know that here national sport is delation; 
he was wrong to live next to ass.holes who had better take care not to leave the keys of their motorbikes on the machine and avoid drinking AND driving.
They realized that the old man had not left his house for a long time and instead of taking care of their business went to bring the thing to immigration.

Well, we don't see POTY 2019 anymore on the forum, what does she think about that ?

Well..I couldn't give a flying squirrel about Poty under the very best of circumstances.

 

However the English words are deflection,displacement and denial.

 

In this case it is displacement as it is immensely satisfying to kick an old age pensioner when he is down..makes you feel better..

Edited January 4, 2020 by Odysseus123

[RJRS1301]

5 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

You need to lighten up. It’s a one-off situation with an elderly guy. And good press for immigration. Do you really think there’s going to be a flood of low to mid 80 year old expats on a thirteen year overstay flooding immigration? You get him a visa that he pays for himself, and go from there.

Yes  monitor person,

I was asking questions, if you make suggestions you should be able to define the outcomes.

I have no idea how many illegal over 80 year old there are, do you?

 

Set precendents expect the unexpected

 

[Goinghomesoon]

3 hours ago, Momofarang said:

Morality: For many Thais Old farang, Mia farang and Leung kreung kids are low excrement to whom seat priority doesn't apply.

 

I don't know, I'm a Mia Farang and I just ask the young Thais to move, particularly if they are in university uniforms.  Often they are so glued to their phone they don't even notice who is around them; they are generally really courteous and immediately let me have their seat.

 

I don't agree with giving up seats to children.  In Australia our older kids were taught to give up their seat to the elderly, pregnant and women on the bus.  We've done the same in Thailand with our youngest, by making it a game.  We encourage him to take the seat offered by young people and then tries to find the oldest person he can, and offers it up to them in turn. 

[Odysseus123]

1 minute ago, RJRS1301 said:

Yes  monitor person,

I was asking questions, if you make suggestions you should be able to define the outcomes.

I have no idea how many illegal over 80 year old there are, do you?

 

Set precendents expect the unexpected

 

Ah!