webfact Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 Suphanburi offers reward for tip-off on burning of sugarcane farms By The Nation File photo The Suphanburi provincial authority is offering a reward of Bt100,000 to anyone who gives a tip-off about sugar cane fields being burned while other province administrations have also stepped up efforts to curb air pollution during the harvesting time. With smog posing a major threat to public health, many provincial authorities are taking measures to fight smoke emissions, which are mostly caused by the burning of agricultural fields, especially for sugarcane harvesting. Suphanburi Governor Nimit Wanchaithanawong had called all agencies, sugar factory owners and district chiefs on Monday (January 13) to find a solution to the problem of smoke and law enforcement after delaying the agricultural burning ban for a year for locals to adapt to the new measure. However, some farmers continue to burn their fields, especially at night. The governor has announced a reward to people who inform authorities of any such violations by farm owners. Meanwhile, Lampang, Phrae, Kamphaeng Phet, Phetchabun and other provinces, where there are sugarcane plantations, will encourage farmers to use other methods for harvesting and also install more PM2.5 detectors. Some sugar companies said that the remedial measures have forced sugar companies to procure sugarcane harvesters as farmers do not have the ability to buy these machines. Sugar factories that need sugar must supply the harvesters. If there are not enough sugarcane harvesters for the farmers to supply to the factory, it must reduce the quantity and the planting area. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30380587 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-01-15 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info
Popular Post bluesofa Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, webfact said: The Suphanburi provincial authority is offering a reward of Bt100,000 to anyone who gives a tip-off about sugar cane fields being burned That does seem like a real financial sweetener. 2 1
Popular Post rumbo1 Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 15, 2020 It's easy, make it illegal for sugar factories to buy burnt cane, employ one RTP officer to sit on his <deleted> at factory entrance to check incoming lorries and problem solved 4 1
edwinchester Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, rumbo1 said: It's easy, make it illegal for sugar factories to buy burnt cane, employ one RTP officer to sit on his <deleted> at factory entrance to check incoming lorries and problem solved Spot on but for some reason even though it's illegal to burn sugarcane it is still legal to buy said illegally burnt cane. 2
Blue Muton Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 So, all I have to do is look out of my window and I can get rich quick? Great news. 1
Popular Post unamazedloso Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 15, 2020 The farmers around me dont get in trouble. They are all connected with officials because of gambling and such. Farmers get away with it because they hit back and say they will dob in illegal land grabbing and such. What im puzzled about is how this fake news of diesels being exagerated beyond belief are the targets and not the farmers. Its 99% farmers who are also lighting the hills around us on fire to get mushrooms and clear land for illegal logging to sell or make charcoal from. The rest is traffic, factories, rubbish burning, etc. This is a human rights violation. People have a right to clean air and burning in actual fact it does nothing but deplete nutrients in the long run and destroys insect colonies and such that my farm that doesnt burn relies on! 6 1
30la Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: Suphanburi Governor Nimit Wanchaithanawong had called all agencies, sugar factory owners and district chiefs on Monday (January 13) to find a solution to the problem of smoke and law enforcement after delaying the agricultural burning ban for a year for locals to adapt to the new measure. However, some farmers continue to burn their fields, especially at night. The governor has announced a reward to people who inform authorities of any such violations by farm owners. Very simple ... do not burn but plow as you do in all civilized countries! 1 1
Popular Post johng Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: The Suphanburi provincial authority is offering a reward of Bt100,000 to anyone who gives a tip-off about sugar cane fields being burned This needs to be rolled out all over the country and cover all types of burning not just cane fields. 3 1
Popular Post stouricks Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: The Suphanburi provincial authority is offering a reward of Bt100,000 to anyone who gives a tip-off about sugar cane fields being burned Why do they need a 'tip off'. Surely a bloody great plume of smoke and a red glow in the sky should direct them to the perpetrators. 5
johng Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, stouricks said: should direct them to the perpetrators. I'm sure they could use the old "its not my dog that savagely mauled your poor child..I only feed it so am not responsible" excuse. In reality they have to catch the arsonist red handed..because although its his field anyone could have set the fire.
Popular Post RotMahKid Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, johng said: In reality they have to catch the arsonist red handed..because although its his field anyone could have set the fire. Simple, just as what they do with some traffic offences in my country, make the owner responsible and he knows who uses the plot. 3
Popular Post PatOngo Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: The Suphanburi provincial authority is offering a reward of Bt100,000 to anyone who gives a tip-off about sugar cane fields being burned Here's a tip for the super brains of Suphanburi....FOLLOW THE SMOKE! ???? The burners are sending you smoke signals...…..come and get me! 2 3
PatOngo Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, 30la said: Very simple ... do not burn but plow as you do in all civilized countries! ….therein lies the problem!
hotchilli Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 5 hours ago, rumbo1 said: It's easy, make it illegal for sugar factories to buy burnt cane, employ one RTP officer to sit on his <deleted> at factory entrance to check incoming lorries and problem solved Not solved... said fat rear-ended RTP officer is fed coffee/cakes and a large sweetener from the factory to look the other way from time to time! 100,000 baht reward for a tip-off would see "granny" grass on her own siblings, much more effective! 2
Moonlover Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, 30la said: Very simple ... do not burn but plow as you do in all civilized countries! 31 minutes ago, PatOngo said: ….therein lies the problem! Clearly you guys don't understand the issue. They burn the sugarcane BEFORE it is harvested. It makes it easier to cut. Plowing in is NOT the answer. 1
PatOngo Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Moonlover said: Clearly you guys don't understand the issue. They burn the sugarcane BEFORE it is harvested. It makes it easier to cut. Plowing in is NOT the answer. I understand that...the problem lies in....civilised!
canopy Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 16 hours ago, rumbo1 said: make it illegal for sugar factories to buy burnt cane They already tried that in some areas and it didn't work. What happened is the farmers harvested and sold green cane, then went right back to the fields and torched them as usual. Thus, this 100,000 reward idea is really smart, necessary, and should be expanded to all types of fields all over Thailand.
Moonlover Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 7 hours ago, PatOngo said: 13 hours ago, Moonlover said: Clearly you guys don't understand the issue. They burn the sugarcane BEFORE it is harvested. It makes it easier to cut. Plowing in is NOT the answer. 7 hours ago, PatOngo said: I understand that...the problem lies in....civilised! No it is not! the issue is all about economics. A number of 'civilized' countries use the burning method including The USA, Brazil and Australia. 1
PatOngo Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Moonlover said: No it is not! the issue is all about economics. A number of 'civilized' countries use the burning method including The USA, Brazil and Australia. Well, you just keep loving the moon! 1 1
ThaiFelix Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 20 hours ago, edwinchester said: Spot on but for some reason even though it's illegal to burn sugarcane it is still legal to buy said illegally burnt cane. Yes they just reduce the price paid. In my area the farmers remove the leaves as they cut the cane and burn them separately.....problem solved! (sarcasm off)
ThaiFelix Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, canopy said: They already tried that in some areas and it didn't work. What happened is the farmers harvested and sold green cane, then went right back to the fields and torched them as usual. Thus, this 100,000 reward idea is really smart, necessary, and should be expanded to all types of fields all over Thailand. But who do you report to in order to collect the reward.....the police already know coz they drive past it every day (and keep driving).
Guest Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 All solved with a few drones, and does not reduce people to becoming snitches. Because, "tomorrow's news?" ... "Farmer attacks snitch with machete" Filed under "Snitches get Stitches" PS: Troll Alert: I am AGAINST BURNING the fields and air pollution, so no "educational" replies are required. Thank you very much.
canopy Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 No drones needed. There is infrared satellite imagery that can alert them instantly to the exact location of every fire. The technology exists, but the will does not. 1
30la Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 12:26 PM, webfact said: The Suphanburi provincial authority is offering a reward of Bt100,000 to anyone who gives a tip-off about sugar cane fields being burned while other province administrations have also stepped up efforts to curb air pollution during the harvesting time. Are you really all blind or do you not want to be the one to report the criminals who pass the bribes under the table? Just look around, the earth burns at 360 degrees, you know for sure who the fields of fire belong to, well, here are those responsible. Thailand has a very efficient legislative body, churns out laws and regulations in full swing, unfortunately the executive is not worth anything. Yesterday we had the visit of the governor of the province here for a meeting with the managers of the sugar factory, even before the (very important) meeting began, the arrogant governor preferred to leave. The meeting is over as they always end, promises that will probably never be kept!
neeray Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 2:18 AM, rumbo1 said: It's easy, make it illegal for sugar factories to buy burnt cane, employ one RTP officer to sit on his <deleted> at factory entrance to check incoming lorries and problem solved Great theory. I'm certain that the RTP force would embrace it. How many trucks a day would be inspected? At 500 baht per truck, the officer would see this as a sweet deal and be smiling from ear to ear. So too would his up-line. Even the local Mercedes Benz dealer would reap benefits beyond reduced pollution. There's lots of winners in this program.
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