GPS trackers

[bluesofa]

My wife is talking about buying our son a motorbike. He starts college soon so my wife's keen to keep an eye on where he is.

At the moment he uses our motorbike whenever he can.

 

I did a search for motorcycle GPS trackers. It came up with a whole range of different products.

A few use only the internal tracker battery, which doesn't seem ideal. One which can be installed and hidden within the bike (to preventing the rider noticing it) and using the bike battery seems to me the best option.

 

What we're after is a GPS tracker that sends the location data via the mobile networks - we are only interested in tracking within Thailand.

 

I've noticed some products require a monthly/annual subscription to send the data to you via some central control company.

Are there any GPS trackers available that only use Thai mobile networks, sending the location directly to (say) a certain number, so we can just pay monthly for the Thai sim installed in the tracker, in order to keep it working?

 

Any other comments on the subject would be appreciated.

 

[CharlieH]

May be of interest:

 

1.Powerful magnet+water proof,adsorbing in the hidden place of car. 2.Multiple tracking ways;Provide monitor software with the global mapfree,real-time track by your computer or PDA cell phone or googleearth. 3. Standby 80hours. 4. Small cubage; Dimension: 46*64*17mm (1.8*2.5*0.65inch) Integration design(antenna and battery inside);easy to hide and take along with you 5. Support orientation without orientated server: it can find out Real-time longitude and latitude, time and speed. By using public map software and entering longitude and latitude manually, you can find out the real-time information of position. 6. Can support platform: When using platform, it can track targets in real time on electronic map, or inquire the target position by mobile phone. 7. If the target you are inquiring enters into underground parking lot or other GPS blind area, the tracker will inform you the last orientation. 8. Tracking function by timing and frequency 9. Authorized number added and deleted function 10. Support hidden alarm and monitor function 11. Geo-fence: Set up a geo-fence for the unit to restrict its movements within a district. The unit will send the message to the authorized numbers when it breaches the district. 12. Movement alert: you can set up barriers when the tracker is stopped. Once moved, it can give an alarm to the authorized number. 13. Over speed alarm: you can make the inspected target run according to fixed speed. It alarms when speed is exceeded. 14. Low battery alarm function

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/sainspeed-tk102-rechargeable-mini-real-time-anti-theft-gsmgpsgprs-tracker-device-with-micro-sd-memory-card-capabilty-for-global-sim-card-i378032667-s736088750.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.3.702cf8abPzgbXd&search=1

 

 

This one can be hard-wired into the bike:

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/2-3-gps-i524854913-s938998544.html?spm=a2o4m.pdp.recommendation_1.2.4e6c762bYv745E&mp=1&scm=1007.16389.126158.0&clickTrackInfo=ddc904d4-6eea-4063-b059-1b02b33950aa__524854913__12466__trigger2i__124572__0.534__0.52144235__0.0__0.28284737__1.5E-4__0.5214574__1__null__null__null__null__null__null__

[gk10002000]

Does he have a smart phone of just about any type?  Kids these days never turn the darn things off and rarely go anywhere without them.  I know my sis has apps on her kids phones so she can track in basically real time if needed.  Something like that must be in Thailand I would think

[alx123]

he's probably 21 y.o now? seriously, he's an adult now. or at least let him know he's being tracked

[bluesofa]

Just now, alx123 said:

he's probably 21 y.o now? seriously, he's an adult now. or at least let him know he's being tracked

Why would you say he's 21?

He's 15, not that it's anything to do with you, or relevant to the question.

[JonnyF]

Try Lazada, I ordered one yesterday - mine is a slightly different style to the one you need (mine is to attach to a dog that disappears for an hour every time I take him for a walk on the farm!) but they also have ones that hook up to the car/bike battery for checking on cheating wives etc.

[alx123]

11 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Why would you say he's 21?

He's 15, not that it's anything to do with you, or relevant to the question.

age is relevant

 

Last time i checked driving age in Thailand is 18 y.o.

 

If you can't trust him enough to ride a bike or where he goes with it, he shouldn't be on one, esp if he's an unlicensed 15 y.o teen.

 

If he's an adult, tracking him without his knowledge is not okay.

 

but you do you, so it's ok..

 

be wary about installing gps on the bike though, wife might be able to track you down too when you do your usual quick visit at soi 11 to grab some beer. it's a double edged sword. 

[ThaiBunny]

1 minute ago, alx123 said:

Last time i checked driving age in Thailand is 18 y.o.

Vehicle: 18

Motorcycle: 15

[alx123]

30 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

Vehicle: 18

Motorcycle: 15

Oh, my bad then. that explains the high numbers of high school students riding motorcycles, speeding without helmets. Great

 

 

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, ThaiBunny said:

Vehicle: 18

Motorcycle: 15

Just to be pedantic:

15 years old: can ride a motorcycle not exceeding 110cc.

18 years old: any motorcycle and a car.

[thailand49]

20 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Just to be pedantic:

15 years old: can ride a motorcycle not exceeding 110cc.

18 years old: any motorcycle and a car.

Just to add, this information is just all on paper I think we can agree none of it is enforced at least in Pattaya.

[bluesofa]

28 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Just to add, this information is just all on paper I think we can agree none of it is enforced at least in Pattaya.

That's very true. As we know the lack of enforcement means that few people will follow the law.

The only time it's relevant is after an accident or the occasional police check.

[BTB1977]

I bought a motorcycle for my wife. But her teenage son came to live with us and he used it to go to school. School was only one day a week for 4 hours.  He was going to an alternative school because he stopped going to his regular school for 2 years. After I found out he was lending it to his friend's I pulled it back and let him walk. Than he got a job while going to school so I gave it back to use. Than he decided school was too hard (one day a week for 4 hours) and stopped going. So he is back to walking since he knows everything now and is such a big shot making 7,000 a month working 10 and 12 hour days 6 days a week. Also not living at home anymore.  The deal was he go to school and can eat and sleep at home. Of course he promised to do that. 5555. If you give them enough rope they will hang themselves.  Thank god he turned 18 and his mother can't be held responsible for anything he does know. 

[allenberg]

29 minutes ago, BTB1977 said:

I bought a motorcycle for my wife. But her teenage son came to live with us and he used it to go to school. School was only one day a week for 4 hours.  He was going to an alternative school because he stopped going to his regular school for 2 years. After I found out he was lending it to his friend's I pulled it back and let him walk. Than he got a job while going to school so I gave it back to use. Than he decided school was too hard (one day a week for 4 hours) and stopped going. So he is back to walking since he knows everything now and is such a big shot making 7,000 a month working 10 and 12 hour days 6 days a week. Also not living at home anymore.  The deal was he go to school and can eat and sleep at home. Of course he promised to do that. 5555. If you give them enough rope they will hang themselves.  Thank god he turned 18 and his mother can't be held responsible for anything he does know. 

"Thank god he turned 18 and his mother can't be held responsible for anything he does know."

 

The age of majority is 20yo in Thailand...not 18yo. 

[Iron Tongue]

I agree that it' be easier to keep tabs on son thru his cellphone.  You'll know where son is, not where the bike is parked. 

There are even hidden apps that will also let you record conversations and read texts/emails.  -Of course discovery of you keeping tabs may permanently damage relationship with son!

[spornb]

Nice to know I am not the only one concerned about kids and motor bikes, the first bike lasted six months before I finally took it back and sold it, he was refusing to wear crash helmet all the time, removing mirrors, disconnecting mile meter so could not monitor and going outside agreed set limits

 

At the same time he was banished to temple for two years

 

When he came back he went to hotel school, on a push bike, for the first year, recently got him a nice motor bike again and so far so good, he is respecting the rules most of the time

 

We do not want him killed like many other young kids

 

I still think about a GPS, or maybe just tell him one is fitted and well hidden !

[Tayaout]

You can track his phone via https://www.google.com/android/find or even see his movement history. You could also track a GPS enabled android device installed on his motorbike for only the cost of the sim card and data plan. 

[bluesofa]

11 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

You can track his phone via https://www.google.com/android/find or even see his movement history. You could also track a GPS enabled android device installed on his motorbike for only the cost of the sim card and data plan. 

My son has a gmail account - I have the password, as he can't remember it if he gets signed out.

 

I'm not sure how this is supposed to work.

I tried to "Find My Device" by first only entering his email address:

It said "Couldn't send a Google prompt because your phone can't be reached"

That seems to suggest it will send him a message, which is obviously not what I want?

 

[bluesofa]

24 minutes ago, spornb said:

Nice to know I am not the only one concerned about kids and motor bikes,

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I still think about a GPS, or maybe just tell him one is fitted and well hidden !

Hmm, I think weakness there would be him wanting proof by asking where he'd just been.

[Tayaout]

47 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

My son has a gmail account - I have the password, as he can't remember it if he gets signed out.

 

I'm not sure how this is supposed to work.

I tried to "Find My Device" by first only entering his email address:

It said "Couldn't send a Google prompt because your phone can't be reached"

That seems to suggest it will send him a message, which is obviously not what I want?

 

Find my device need the phone to be reachable via the internet and it does send a notification that the phone is being tracked. For the map history the information is here: https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6258979?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en or here if checking from a pc: https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6258979?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en&oco=0

 

 

[bluesofa]

3 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

Find my device need the phone to be reachable via the internet and it does send a notification that the phone is being tracked. For the map history the information is here: https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6258979?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en or here if checking from a pc: https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6258979?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en&oco=0

Right, thanks. In that case we definitely don't want that option.

[mr PPG]

okey, i even don’t have read “experts” posts, but i can guide You right direction no problem...... lazada “gps one C1 mag tracker”, it’s not advertised as work on 3g only 2g, but supporting 3g no problem.... app working fine including geofence.... take d tag sim card only, top up 20thb per time only (extend 30day validity for sim each top up), You need 50thb activate go plern- unlimited data extremely low speed, but for tracker fine..... once You top up sim 20thb x 12 its be valid for 1year ........ to connect tracker: get from lazada 12v usb charger module and fit it after ignition or back light wire if Your bike have drl..... connect everything together and wrap with insulation tape ( can use rubber stretchy tape..... while You use bike tracker battery get charged, if You set tracker send location every 5 min ( can be changed in app any time) battery should last few weeks if You park motorbike for while You can set geofence and send location every few hours...... this setup is about 1000 in total + some of  diy...... have fun 

[bluesofa]

8 minutes ago, mr PPG said:

okey, i even don’t have read “experts” posts, but i can guide You right direction no problem...... lazada “gps one C1 mag tracker”, it’s not advertised as work on 3g only 2g, but supporting 3g no problem.... app working fine including geofence.... take d tag sim card only, top up 20thb per time only (extend 30day validity for sim each top up), You need 50thb activate go plern- unlimited data extremely low speed, but for tracker fine..... once You top up sim 20thb x 12 its be valid for 1year ........ to connect tracker: get from lazada 12v usb charger module and fit it after ignition or back light wire if Your bike have drl..... connect everything together and wrap with insulation tape ( can use rubber stretchy tape..... while You use bike tracker battery get charged, if You set tracker send location every 5 min ( can be changed in app any time) battery should last few weeks if You park motorbike for while You can set geofence and send location every few hours...... this setup is about 1000 in total + some of  diy...... have fun 

I tried "gps one C1 mag tracker" on Lazada as you said, but there was no result.

Could you be more specific?

[Tayaout]

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.03sh6

[DJ54]

I saw a gps tracker looked to be the size of a coin. 

[DaRoadrunner]

Problem with these trackers is limited range and battery life. Looking for one with country wide range which connects to the vehicle battery.

[gamesgplayemail]

any tracker that can work as a mobile, not SMS but DATA sim card ? I use mobiles but they use a lot of battery and even on powerbank it needs to be often refilled.

 

any help ?

[gamesgplayemail]

23 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Problem with these trackers is limited range and battery life. Looking for one with country wide range which connects to the vehicle battery.

 

This is the only problem yes.