Covid-19: Government to impose state of emergency

[bestie]

???? At least I tried

[Skallywag]

7 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

If they are sensible they will, as gatherings of people not observing social distancing assits the spread of the virus.

Remebering that the current modelling that each infected person infects 2.5 persons, that is why the contagion is spreading so rapidly, those 2.5 persons go onto infect 2.5 persons each, and remember that many remain asymptomatic for many days after infection.

 

So all 69,000,000 people living here cannot go to a grocery store for a month starting Thursday you are saying....or is a grocery store somehow different than a restaurant?  Grocery stores have more traffic, more people touching items, more workers stocking, cutting meat, packaging items by hand, etc...

Edited March 24, 2020 by Skallywag

[DannyCarlton]

Just now, Zikomat said:

 If you know the Thai nightlife terminology you should know that though there is a clear distinction before Short time and Long time - still both terms refer to the one and the same type of mongering activity. Same with the tourism. You can be a one day tourist and you can also be a long time tourist exploring the place on a DEEPER level, so to say. 

In the present situation, it's neither advisable or often possible to explore the place on a deeper level. Follow your embassies advice, "Return to your own country".

[DannyCarlton]

Just now, Skallywag said:

So all 69,000,000 people living here cannot go to a grocery store for a month starting Thursday you are saying....or is a grocery store somehow different than a restaurant?  

Very different. However restaurants can still offer a takeout/delivery service.

[RJRS1301]

5 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

So all 69,000,000 people living here cannot go to a grocery store for a month starting Thursday you are saying....or is a grocery store somehow different than a restaurant?  

The question was about restaurants..not food stores. So think about comparisons of same. If you cannot tell the differences you are in big trouble.

Yes food stores people in and out in less time practice social distancing , possible limited numbers in at same time.

 

Restaurants people sitting long periods over dinner(possibly not doing social distancing)  big differences between them

Edited March 24, 2020 by RJRS1301

[EricTh]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

No detail given? so thread tells us nothing really

What I foresee is something like Malaysia. It is called restricted movement.

 

That means no interprovincial travel, all unnecessary services such as bars, massage, gym will be closed.

[Parsve]

31 minutes ago, alyx said:

I tend to agree with metapod. I do feel that the goal does not justify the means and it going to be far more hurtful that the virus itself.

We are basing our judgement on numbers which are wrong (not manipulated) by definition as no one knows the real figures and they are certainly much more than the official results, meaning that maybe, although highly contagious (not airborne though) we are not sure to what extent

And could you please tell me in what way that make any reacting to the numbers positive or negative wrong, and also please explain to me how the economical down spiral is to blame on the politicans who all over the world try to help  industries to survive while main actors like investors stop theire investment in a try to save theire money.

[EricTh]

3 hours ago, Zikomat said:

Read the thread in Visa section. Almost without exclusions. Me myself was refused an extension yesterday after spending an hour in the crowd of hundreds of farangs. I pray God I was not infected. 

Does that mean you will be fined or you have to leave the country immediately?

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, EricTh said:

What I foresee is something like Malaysia. It is called restricted movement.

 

That means no interprovincial travel, all unnecessary services such as bars, massage, gym will be closed.

According to the HR dept at my work in a meeting this afternoon 2 restriction are known, 1 is interprovincial travel and a 8pm to 6am curfew.

 

Fact or not I don't know as the government letter they had I could not read.

 

[Zikomat]

9 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

In the present situation, it's neither advisable or often possible to explore the place on a deeper level. Follow your embassies advice, "Return to your own country".

 The situation has definitely changed. Not only this is a wrong time for any touristic activity but it is also the worst time for the traveling of any kind. Taking the bus to the crowded airport. Spending hours there waiting for your plane. The flight itself is not less than 10 hours. If there is not a direct flight - then add more time in the airpot and more time in the sky in the fully packed plane cabin. Would you personally take that kind of risk at these times, when nobody (even the best of the experts) knows for sure what is the nature of this virus and the real degree of danger it represents for each of us? I personally prefer to stay Isolated in my Thai apartment until the situation is getting somewhat better.

Edited March 24, 2020 by Zikomat

[FarFlungFalang]

22 minutes ago, Drew3223 said:

Whilst the children squabble, I have a serious question - can anyone tell me if they will shut down restaurants as part of the emergency decree coming in on 26th March? 

From what I've seen somewhere here they are sort of on the list in so much as takeaways are allowed but eating in is not unless you're at a hotel restaurant and are staying at the hotel. 

[brewsterbudgen]

Just now, Don Mega said:

According to the HR dept at my work in a meeting this afternoon 2 restriction are known, 1 is interprovincial travel and a 8pm to 6am curfew.

 

Fact or not I don't know as the government letter they had I could not read.

 

So the virus sleeps during the day?  Maybe it really is a vampire bat virus!

[Skallywag]

Any responses to the Topic  - the OP ???

 

What is going to be open during this "imposed state of emergency" ?

 

Thank you

Edited March 24, 2020 by Skallywag

[NanLaew]

56 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:

58 minutes ago, Simon85 said:

Just did it yesterday  morning at Phatthalung Immigration Office, staff was extremely helpful and process very straightforward; furthermore I was the only one in the room so no queue and in 10 minutes I was outside already.

Guess it depends on the IO then,

Yes. And Phuket IO's pulling arbitrary rules out of their butts just because they can is the stuff of legend.

[RJRS1301]

We  are all in this together, a virus contaminating and spreading, people dying, no prevetion outside hygiene and distancing or lockdowns. 

People have been screaming governemtn doing nothing, now possibly stringent measures to come in , once again many up in arms.

Loss of some "freedoms" or >>??

Choices your own to consider

Yep absolute power in this candidate is not ideal, but what choice do you want?

Alternatives please

 

 

Edited March 24, 2020 by RJRS1301

[DannyCarlton]

22 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Yes, but being doctors in Wuhan, the were probably up their armpits in it day in day out. Much higher risk category than your average prole.

 

FWIW, in Spain where it's going off like a bottle rocket, 1 in 12 of those being reported as infected are health workers. Just heard that on the Beeb.

 Much higher risk but they both died.

 

Both my daughter and her husband work in A&E in the UK. My daughter has just informed me that both are resigned to the fact that they will get infected at some point.

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

So the virus sleeps during the day?  Maybe it really is a vampire bat virus!

maybe it does, I certainly don't know either way.

[EricTh]

Just now, Skallywag said:

 

Want to know what an "imposed state of emergency" means for those living here in LOS please. 

Thank you

State of emergency means 'no more entertainment places'

 

1. No more bars (naughty or otherwise)

2. No more massage parlours

3. No more beaches

4. No more shopping 

5. No more partying

6. No interprovincial travelling

 

If you must have entertainment, it's time to go back to home country.

 

[brewsterbudgen]

3 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Any responses to the Topic  - the OP ???

 

What is going to be open during this "imposed state of emergency" ?

 

Thank you

Nobody will know for sure until it is announced!  People can speculate and listen to their wife or their HR department, but nobody knows for sure.

[NanLaew]

51 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Current virus spreading in Thailand is Italian variety, not Chinese one.

Wrong, and

 

52 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

This one is about 5x more deadly than the Chinese one.

Wrong again.

 

Please cease and desist from recycling totally unsubstantiated, clinically unproven and thus FAKE news from some ill-informed doctors FB page.

[Skallywag]

4 minutes ago, EricTh said:

State of emergency means 'no more entertainment places'

 

1. No more bars (naughty or otherwise)

2. No more massage parlours

3. No more beaches

4. No more shopping 

5. No more partying

6. No interprovincial travelling

 

If you must have entertainment, it's time to go back to home country.

 

I live here on a retirement visa extension, i.e.full time.

Many of those items you listed are already in place since last week

 

 

No shopping for groceries?  All 69,000,000 residents of LOS?

Could you provide a link to this please.

I have food for a couple weeks max

 

 

Edited March 24, 2020 by Skallywag

[Zikomat]

11 minutes ago, EricTh said:

Does that mean you will be fined or you have to leave the country immediately?

7 days extension given instead. For the price of 30 day extension - 1900 thb.

[DannyCarlton]

5 minutes ago, EricTh said:

State of emergency means 'no more entertainment places'

 

1. No more bars (naughty or otherwise)

2. No more massage parlours

3. No more beaches

4. No more shopping 

5. No more partying

6. No interprovincial travelling

 

If you must have entertainment, it's time to go back to home country.

 

I guess that they will follow the lead of several of the more sensible Western countries that have taken similar measures. So, all the above except 4. Shopping for food will be allowed, supermarkets will remain open.

[NanLaew]

32 minutes ago, CGW said:

34 minutes ago, Drew3223 said:

Whilst the children squabble, I have a serious question - can anyone tell me if they will shut down restaurants as part of the emergency decree coming in on 26th March? 

As restaurants in Bangkok are only open for "takeaway" I would expect them to do the same?

I would wager that they would be forced to shutter between 6 pm and 6 am with no service, dine-in or take-away. Otherwise why bother with a curfew?

 

"I am declaring a national state of emergency and everyone must stay in their home between 18:00 and 06:00 the following day... unless they're hungry."

[alyx]

7 minutes ago, Parsve said:

And could you please tell me in what way that make any reacting to the numbers positive or negative wrong, and also please explain to me how the economical down spiral is to blame on the politicans who all over the world try to help  industries to survive while main actors like investors stop theire investment in a try to save theire money.

Bear with me: I think you would agree that the numbers are way below those stated. That means that the real death numbers due to the virus is closer to 1% (even under) but it is just my opinion ( I am neither a MP nor a poll specialist). 

I have not put the blame on anyone (neither market not politics)  

I am just saying that hysteria (as we see it) has never been a good way to solve the problems

Restrictions are needed but above all, understanding of how the virus is spread as well as educating the "people" is far more efficient than a clamp down which will only see a resurgence of the virus (maybe even a new strain) when one thinks they are out of danger

 

I will add that the Thai approach (albeit deemed  too slow by most) is a better (best) way to see things coming around

[EricTh]

3 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

I guess that they will follow the lead of several of the more sensible Western countries that have taken similar measures. So, all the above except 4. Shopping for food will be allowed, supermarkets will remain open.

Of course, food is allowed.

 

What i mean is shopping for beauty products, clothes, computers etc.

[EricTh]

5 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

7 days extension given instead. For the price of 30 day extension - 1900 thb.

You should make full use of the 7 days extension to go back to your home country.

 

 

[Peterw42]

Wife just told me that sizzzler and MK advertising home delivery starting up. I think you can take that as there will be no dinning in restaurants come Thursday.

 

[NanLaew]

14 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

 Much higher risk but they both died.

 

Both my daughter and her husband work in A&E in the UK. My daughter has just informed me that both are resigned to the fact that they will get infected at some point.

I must say hats off to your daughter and hubby. Far, far braver than her dad beating up on tourists on a forum in Thailand.

[Peterw42]

8 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

7 days extension given instead. For the price of 30 day extension - 1900 thb.

all etensions are 1900 baht