webfact Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Trump backs off plan to reopen businesses by mid-April amid coronavirus warnings By Doina Chiacu and Dan Whitcomb U.S. President Donald Trump pauses while speaking during a news conference in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, U.S., March 29, 2020. REUTERS/Al Drago WASHINGTON/ LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Sunday extended his stay-at-home guidelines until the end of April, dropping a hotly criticized plan to get the economy up and running by mid-April after a top medical adviser said more than 100,000 Americans could die from the coronavirus outbreak. The reversal by Trump, which he said would be disclosed in greater detail on Tuesday, came as the U.S. death toll topped 2,460 from the respiratory disease, according to a Reuters tally, with more than 141,000 cases, the most of any country in the world. (Graphic: https://tmsnrt.rs/2w7hX9T) "The peak, the highest point of death rate, is likely to hit in two weeks," Trump told a coronavirus briefing in the White House Rose Garden, flanked by top advisers and business leaders, "Nothing would be worse than declaring victory before the victory is won." He told Americans: "The better you do, the faster this whole nightmare will end." Earlier on Sunday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN that the pandemic could ultimately kill between 100,000 and 200,000 people in the United States if mitigation was not successful. Since 2010, the flu has killed between 12,000 and 61,000 Americans a year, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The 1918-1919 flu pandemic killed 675,000 in the United States, according to the CDC https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/pandemic-preparedness.htm. Fauci softened his dire predictions at the Rose Garden briefing, saying they were based on models that were run to show the worst-case scenario if Americans did not follow stay-at-home directives. "We feel the mitigation we are doing right now is having an effect," Fauci said. "The decision to extend this mitigation process until the end of April is a wise and prudent decision." Trump's surprise suggestion that he might order the reopening of the economy by Easter had been greeted with sharp and immediate criticism from state governors still grappling with rising numbers of patients and health systems stretched thin. The governors of at least 21 states, representing more than half the U.S. population of 330 million, have closed "non-essential businesses" and told residents to stay home. Asked during the briefing if floating the idea of lifting restrictions by mid-April had been a mistake, Trump called it "just an aspiration" and said he now believed the country could be on its way to economic recovery by June 1. 'WE ARE SCARED' New York state on Sunday reported nearly 60,000 cases and a total of 965 deaths, up 237 in the past 24 hours. The number of hospitalized patients was slowing, said Governor Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat who has been outspoken in his criticism of the Republican president. New York City will need hundreds more ventilators in a few days and more masks, gowns and other supplies by April 5, Mayor Bill de Blasio told CNN. New Orleans will run out of ventilators around Saturday, Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards told CBS. Ventilators are breathing machines used to treat those suffering the most severe symptoms from the pneumonia-like respiratory ailment and many hospitals fear they will not have enough. Dr. Arabia Mollette, an emergency medicine physician at Brookdale University Hospital Medical Center in Brooklyn and St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx, said she now worked in a "medical war zone." "We're trying to keep our heads above water without drowning," Mollette said. "We are scared. We're trying to fight for everyone else's life, but we also fight for our lives as well." Maryland arrested a man who repeatedly violated the ban on large gatherings by hosting a bonfire party with 60 guests, Governor Larry Hogan said on Sunday. Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, whose state has become one of the fastest-growing areas for the coronavirus, especially in the county that includes Detroit, called the rapid spread "gut-wrenching." "We have nurses wearing the same mask from the beginning of their shift until the end, masks that are supposed to be for one patient at one point in your shift. We need some assistance and we're going to need thousands of ventilators," Whitmer told CNN. The strict stay-at-home rules meant that usually bustling New York, like many major cities in the United States, was largely quiet on Sunday except for the sound of ambulance sirens. "It feels very apocalyptic," said Quentin Hill, a 27-year-old New Yorker who works for a Jewish nonprofit. "It almost feels like we're in wartime." Jason Brown, who was laid off from his job in digital media due to the pandemic, said Fauci's estimate was scary. "I feel like it's just growing, growing, growing," said Brown, who is 27 and lives in Los Angeles, one of the epicentres of the outbreak. "There's no vaccine. It seems like a lot of people don't take it seriously in the U.S., so it makes me believe that this would become more drastic and drastic," Brown said. (Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch, Doina Chiacu and Chris Sanders in Washington, Karen Freifeld in New York, Tom Polansek in Chicago and Dan Whitcomb in Los Angeles; Writing by Lisa Shumaker and Dan Whitcomb; Editing by Daniel Wallis and Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-03-30 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 So it was a hoax according to him, so he did nothing. Now he does a great job because: They test the most of all countries (not true) They have the lowest percentage of death world wide (not true) He hopes to keep the death between 100,000 and 200,000 What a joke for a human being, let alone a president. 17 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 An off topic distraction post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 We, the entire world, is treading in uncharted waters...no one really knows how long this virus will decimate the people on earth. One thing we can reasonably be sure of...this virus will run it's course...we will pickup the pieces and once again engage in international travel, commerce and tourism... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: Nothing would be worse than declaring victory before the victory is won." I disagree, calling covid-19 a hoax intended to derail your re election campaign was much worse. 1 hour ago, webfact said: Asked during the briefing if floating the idea of lifting restrictions by mid-April had been a mistake, Trump called it "just an aspiration" and said he now believed the country could be on its way to economic recovery by June 1. Isn’t that declaring victory before victory is won? 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 The virus seems to be ignoring Trump’s BS and lies. And for the record, Trump’s pronouncement wrt to ‘by June 1’ that too is BS. He’s running his mouth, America and Americans are paying the price. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 Good to see that Trump is adding aspiration to his limited vocabulary. 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiekerjozef Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 What strikes me the most.... the SARS epidemic happened in 2003. And nobody ever bothered to produce a vaccine? They say it takes a minimum of 1 to 1.5 years for a vaccine to be ready and safe for use for humans. Well, 17 years and no vaccine for SARS?? And with Covid-19 so close to SARS.... If the pharmaceutical industry did their job, we would have never heard of Covid-19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 hours ago, spiekerjozef said: What strikes me the most.... the SARS epidemic happened in 2003. And nobody ever bothered to produce a vaccine? They say it takes a minimum of 1 to 1.5 years for a vaccine to be ready and safe for use for humans. Well, 17 years and no vaccine for SARS?? And with Covid-19 so close to SARS.... If the pharmaceutical industry did their job, we would have never heard of Covid-19. They needed money for that. There was no market (the epidemic was over rather quickly), and there was no public funding for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Katipo Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 Has he got anything right in his handling of this outbreak? I've just seen one mistake after another. Small hands and orange skin does not a wise leader make. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Redline Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster 7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: So it was a hoax according to him, so he did nothing. Now he does a great job because: They test the most of all countries (not true) They have the lowest percentage of death world wide (not true) He hopes to keep the death between 100,000 and 200,000 What a joke for a human being, let alone a president. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Redline Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The virus seems to be ignoring Trump’s BS and lies. And for the record, Trump’s pronouncement wrt to ‘by June 1’ that too is BS. He’s running his mouth, America and Americans are paying the price. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JulesMad Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 The ever-lying president lies again.... surprise, surprise.... It seems however that only the-not-so-smart (a.k.a. republican) americans believe him ???? Anyway, who cares what that 'genius' has to say? It is just more lies, as usual 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 At some point the Americans are going to stop staying at home. The officials will keep extending by two weeks at a time until most of America says enough is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: So it was a hoax according to him, so he did nothing. Now he does a great job because: They test the most of all countries (not true) They have the lowest percentage of death world wide (not true) He hopes to keep the death between 100,000 and 200,000 What a joke for a human being, let alone a president. usually when making an argument and claiming facts-statistics the relevant information is also provided rather than saying "true" or "not true" when you say "lowest % of death" which mortality-death rate specifically are you referring to? which country has tested the highest % of their population? url link to that info please Edited March 30, 2020 by atyclb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, atyclb said: usually when making an argument and claiming facts-statistics the relevant information is also provided rather than saying "true" or "not true" when you say "lowest % of death" which mortality-death rate specifically are you referring to? which country has tested the highest % of their population? url link to that info please Well whether or not South Korea has tested the highest percentage of its population it's doing a far better job than the USA. This was in response to Trump's irrelevant claim that the US has tested more people than has South Korea: "Although both countries reported their first cases of COVID-19 on the same day (Jan. 20), South Korea's testing rate is already six times higher than the test rate in the U.S. So far, the U.S. test rate is about 1,048 tests per million people and South Korea's is 6,764 tests per million people." https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-testing-us-vs-south-korea.html And here is what those haters at fox news reported: Fauci says US not set up for coronavirus testing like other countries: 'That is a failing' Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said Thursday the ability of Americans to get tested for coronavirus is not up to the standard of other countries, adding the U.S. should be better equipped. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., asked about people’s ability to get tested while pointing out that even health care workers have been denied access to testing. Fauci offered his comments when Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield did not have specific information about who was responsible for test access. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-coronavirus-testing-failing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Breaking: The United States FDA has issued an emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine to be prescribed to COVID-19 patients. This was the medication mentioned by Trump and vilified by the corrupt MSM. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: Breaking: The United States FDA has issued an emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine to be prescribed to COVID-19 patients. This was the medication mentioned by Trump and vilified by the corrupt MSM. Trump's push for risky malaria drugs disrupts coronavirus response President Donald Trump’s all-out push to advance unproven coronavirus treatments is deepening a divide between the White House and career health officials, who are being pulled away from other potential projects to address the president’s hunch that decades-old malaria medicines can be coronavirus cures. The White House directed health officials to set up a project to track if the antimalarial drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine show promise — a dayslong effort that distracted from urgent tasks like trials of other medicines thought to have more potential against the virus. Food and Drug Administration officials also reversed a nearly six-year ban on a troubled Indian manufacturer in a bid to secure the drugs, and top advisers to Trump have encouraged other agencies to locate as much of the product as possible. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/trump-malaria-coronavirus-152498 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, bristolboy said: Trump's push for risky malaria drugs disrupts coronavirus response President Donald Trump’s all-out push to advance unproven coronavirus treatments is deepening a divide between the White House and career health officials, who are being pulled away from other potential projects to address the president’s hunch that decades-old malaria medicines can be coronavirus cures. The White House directed health officials to set up a project to track if the antimalarial drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine show promise — a dayslong effort that distracted from urgent tasks like trials of other medicines thought to have more potential against the virus. Food and Drug Administration officials also reversed a nearly six-year ban on a troubled Indian manufacturer in a bid to secure the drugs, and top advisers to Trump have encouraged other agencies to locate as much of the product as possible. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/trump-malaria-coronavirus-152498 LOL! Disgusting but hardly surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, JHolmesJr said: LOL! Disgusting but hardly surprising. Because, after all, Trump on coronavirus: 'People are really surprised I understand this stuff' During a visit to the headquarters of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Friday, President Trump touted his own understanding of the coronavirus outbreak. "Maybe I have natural ability," he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was a scientist. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-51761880/trump-on-coronavirus-people-are-really-surprised-i-understand-this-stuff 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Susco Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: 20 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Trump's push for risky malaria drugs disrupts coronavirus response President Donald Trump’s all-out push to advance unproven coronavirus treatments is deepening a divide between the White House and career health officials, who are being pulled away from other potential projects to address the president’s hunch that decades-old malaria medicines can be coronavirus cures. The White House directed health officials to set up a project to track if the antimalarial drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine show promise — a dayslong effort that distracted from urgent tasks like trials of other medicines thought to have more potential against the virus. Food and Drug Administration officials also reversed a nearly six-year ban on a troubled Indian manufacturer in a bid to secure the drugs, and top advisers to Trump have encouraged other agencies to locate as much of the product as possible. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/trump-malaria-coronavirus-152498 LOL! Disgusting but hardly surprising. Glad you finally see Trump for what he really is 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just a disgusting human being, Trump. Doesn't like the Michigan governor so withholds life-saving help for that state out of spite. Totally inept and glacially slow from the beginning, ignoring excellent early advice from those in the know, with failure after failure, but gives himself a 10 out of 10 in handling the virus--while at the same time accepting blame for nothing. Disgusting. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, newnative said: Just a disgusting human being, Trump. Doesn't like the Michigan governor so withholds life-saving help for that state out of spite. Totally inept and glacially slow from the beginning, ignoring excellent early advice from those in the know, with failure after failure, but gives himself a 10 out of 10 in handling the virus--while at the same time accepting blame for nothing. Disgusting. physicians in michigan combating coronavirus do not appreciate their non physician governor at all when she threatens-infers administrative -legal action for them trying to help patients or themselves from the effects of corona virus. inferring they can/may/will lose their medical license for "off label" medication use is unbelievable. i would say very few michigan physicians be they democrat or republican have much love for their governor medical personnel already short on protective gear are placing their very own lives and those of their families at risk of infection. so i say who the <deleted> is she to tell them what they can or cannot do during an apocalyptic pandemic imo and that of numerous other physicians her decision is just another example of trump derangement syndrome and she can't allow something to happen because the object of hatred (trump) touted it in this matter imo most of michigan licensed physicians and pharmacists will ignore her as following her directive would/could jeopardize patients lives. in this case whitmers behavior is egregious or disgusting as you say. snippet from. detroit news. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2020/03/26/opinion-michigans-doctors-fight-coronavirus-and-governors-office/2922272001/ Based on these and other results physicians and governments around the world are now using these medications to claimed great effect. Even in the state of Michigan, prominent hospitals such as the Henry Ford Hospital and the University of Michigan have added hydroxychloroquine to their treatment protocols for hospitalized patients with COVID-19. By doing so, physicians are using these medications “off-label,” that is, without the costly and time-consuming process of Food and Drug Administration approval. But if you live in Michigan, and you or a loved one is infected with this potentially lethal disease, you’re out of luck. Edited March 31, 2020 by metisdead 14) You will not post any copyrighted material except as fair use laws apply (as in the case of news articles). Please only post a link, the headline and the first three sentences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 8 hours ago, atyclb said: physicians in michigan combating coronavirus do not appreciate their non physician governor at all when she threatens-infers administrative -legal action for them trying to help patients or themselves from the effects of corona virus. inferring they can/may/will lose their medical license for "off label" medication use is unbelievable. i would say very few michigan physicians be they democrat or republican have much love for their governor medical personnel already short on protective gear are placing their very own lives and those of their families at risk of infection. so i say who the <deleted> is she to tell them what they can or cannot do during an apocalyptic pandemic imo and that of numerous other physicians her decision is just another example of trump derangement syndrome and she can't allow something to happen because the object of hatred (trump) touted it in this matter imo most of michigan licensed physicians and pharmacists will ignore her as following her directive would/could jeopardize patients lives. in this case whitmers behavior is egregious or disgusting as you say. snippet from. detroit news. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2020/03/26/opinion-michigans-doctors-fight-coronavirus-and-governors-office/2922272001/ Based on these and other results physicians and governments around the world are now using these medications to claimed great effect. Even in the state of Michigan, prominent hospitals such as the Henry Ford Hospital and the University of Michigan have added hydroxychloroquine to their treatment protocols for hospitalized patients with COVID-19. By doing so, physicians are using these medications “off-label,” that is, without the costly and time-consuming process of Food and Drug Administration approval. But if you live in Michigan, and you or a loved one is infected with this potentially lethal disease, you’re out of luck. Another piece of biased right-wing propaganda. The author, Kathy Hoekstra is a Michigan-based communications writer. Lol! "Hoekstra’s career in communications-writing has included work spinning narratives for: The Washington Examiner, shifting blame for the Flint water crisis to the EPA instead of former governor Rick Snyder’s administration. One-time presidential candidate Herman Cain, as his Media Relations Director. The Pacific Legal Foundation, a pro-business legal foundation that largely pursues anti-affirmative action policies. The Mackinaw Center for Public Policy, a Michigan-based right-wing pressure group and think tank.** The Heartland Institute, which disseminates disinformation about climate science." https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/28/1932089/-Right-wing-propaganda-machine-targets-Michigan-Governor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute Leaving aside the US microcosm, we are far from consensus at the international level. Tests show contradictory results and have also been at small scale, and dangerous side effects have been observed, including death. It is usually allowed under specific protocols and only in hospitals, but not for your usual next door doctor. A large scale clinical test called 'Discovery' is currently underway in Europe, involving 3200 patients. It should soon start to provide some useful information about this treatment and others, as It's not the only candidate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 9 hours ago, JHolmesJr said: Breaking: The United States FDA has issued an emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine to be prescribed to COVID-19 patients. This was the medication mentioned by Trump and vilified by the corrupt MSM. "I would like to see who at FDA's [Medical Countermeasures Initiative] signed off on this EUA despite the total lack of scientific evidence that chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine are beneficial in the treatment of COVID-19, https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, candide said: 13 hours ago, atyclb said: physicians in michigan combating coronavirus do not appreciate their non physician governor at all when she threatens-infers administrative -legal action for them trying to help patients or themselves from the effects of corona virus. inferring they can/may/will lose their medical license for "off label" medication use is unbelievable. i would say very few michigan physicians be they democrat or republican have much love for their governor medical personnel already short on protective gear are placing their very own lives and those of their families at risk of infection. so i say who the <deleted> is she to tell them what they can or cannot do during an apocalyptic pandemic imo and that of numerous other physicians her decision is just another example of trump derangement syndrome and she can't allow something to happen because the object of hatred (trump) touted it in this matter imo most of michigan licensed physicians and pharmacists will ignore her as following her directive would/could jeopardize patients lives. in this case whitmers behavior is egregious or disgusting as you say. snippet from. detroit news. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2020/03/26/opinion-michigans-doctors-fight-coronavirus-and-governors-office/2922272001/ Based on these and other results physicians and governments around the world are now using these medications to claimed great effect. Even in the state of Michigan, prominent hospitals such as the Henry Ford Hospital and the University of Michigan have added hydroxychloroquine to their treatment protocols for hospitalized patients with COVID-19. By doing so, physicians are using these medications “off-label,” that is, without the costly and time-consuming process of Food and Drug Administration approval. But if you live in Michigan, and you or a loved one is infected with this potentially lethal disease, you’re out of luck. Another piece of biased right-wing propaganda. The author, Kathy Hoekstra is a Michigan-based communications writer. Lol! "Hoekstra’s career in communications-writing has included work spinning narratives for: The Washington Examiner, shifting blame for the Flint water crisis to the EPA instead of former governor Rick Snyder’s administration. One-time presidential candidate Herman Cain, as his Media Relations Director. The Pacific Legal Foundation, a pro-business legal foundation that largely pursues anti-affirmative action policies. The Mackinaw Center for Public Policy, a Michigan-based right-wing pressure group and think tank.** The Heartland Institute, which disseminates disinformation about climate science." https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/28/1932089/-Right-wing-propaganda-machine-targets-Michigan-Governor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute Leaving aside the US microcosm, we are far from consensus at the international level. Tests show contradictory results and have also been at small scale, and dangerous side effects have been observed, including death. It is usually allowed under specific protocols and only in hospitals, but not for your usual next door doctor. A large scale clinical test called 'Discovery' is currently underway in Europe, involving 3200 patients. It should soon start to provide some useful information about this treatment and others, as It's not the only candidate. i wasnt speaking about the background of the author of that story but the sentiment of the michigan physicians involved in covid 19. yes i know more than one treatment protocol is being evaluated. fyi at one time i held a michigan medical license but let is lapse as i live far away now and i agree 100% with the physician sentiment about the threat of license revocation the other issue is informed consent. if me or a friend or a family member were not responding to other treatment would i/we accept possible negative consequences including death which by the way could very well be assured already by simply continuing the same failing course of treatment the answer for me/we is YES. a not uncommon dangerous side effect of covid 19 disease IS DEATH your usual next door doctor just may understand the mechanism of action and just may have reviewed the information out there and please sit down before i tell you the usual next door doctor is ALLOWED to prescribe/treat "off label" "https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/28/1932089/-Right-wing-propaganda-machine-targets-Michigan-Governor" interesting how the author criticising another author doesn't even use their real name but a pseudonym (Grape crush). that is not the way credible publications work Edited March 31, 2020 by atyclb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 16 hours ago, JHolmesJr said: LOL! Disgusting but hardly surprising. In what respects is a report of facts disgusting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chomper Higgot Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 This is What Michigan’s medical licensing authority have to say on the matter: https://www.michigan.gov/documents/lara/Reminder_of_Appropriate_Prescribing_and_Dispensing_3-24-2020_684869_7.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, JHolmesJr said: 16 hours ago, bristolboy said: Trump's push for risky malaria drugs disrupts coronavirus response President Donald Trump’s all-out push to advance unproven coronavirus treatments is deepening a divide between the White House and career health officials, who are being pulled away from other potential projects to address the president’s hunch that decades-old malaria medicines can be coronavirus cures. The White House directed health officials to set up a project to track if the antimalarial drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine show promise — a dayslong effort that distracted from urgent tasks like trials of other medicines thought to have more potential against the virus. Food and Drug Administration officials also reversed a nearly six-year ban on a troubled Indian manufacturer in a bid to secure the drugs, and top advisers to Trump have encouraged other agencies to locate as much of the product as possible. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/trump-malaria-coronavirus-152498 LOL! Disgusting but hardly surprising. guess what, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) is part of mass general hospital (harvard university school of medicine) covid 19 treatment protocol. disgusting isn't it https://www.massgeneral.org/assets/MGH/pdf/news/coronavirus/covid-19_domID_treatmentGuide_figure1.pdf Edited March 31, 2020 by atyclb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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