Neither an apologist nor malcontent

[Metropolitian]

48 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Only a couple ???? come sit in my chair....555555.......you'll have hit-men stalking you in a week !!!

 

And those that seem quiet, why do think that is. who do you think removes them and filters all that <deleted> out of your daily lives here, The Mods.

Here, all that <erased> mess in the kitchen after I cooked. The mods cleaning it out.

Can send some to you to aid you in your daily struggle ????

 

[RJRS1301]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

No point in dealing with it, just hit the 'ignore' button.

I've got 3 pages of posters I never have to read anymore.

 

My current gripe is posters hating on foreigners trapped in Thailand by the flight cancellations.

There's no need for it, people make bad decisions and run out of money all the time, all over the world.

Be human, give them a bit of support, don't hate them.

Show me where the ignore button is please

 

[villagefarang]

6 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Show me where the ignore button is please

 

[Randell]

Great post Rottweiler. I couldn't agree with you more. Thanks so much for sharing. A fellow Canadian (Stoon SK)

[Puchaiyank]

"Do I complaint about anything here?  Damn right I do!  About the smoky air.  About the heat.  About sloppy workmanship that can appear during a simple, routine project."

 

So, you get upset when others complain about their Thai experience...but it is OK for you?

 

DA!

[Rotweiler]

I absolutely agree with you, Yank.  I did assume at least some of the responses would be like yours.  I was surprise at how few. 

 

Have no fear.  Posting anything real here is not something I will do again.

[ripstanley]

45 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

"Do I complaint about anything here?  Damn right I do!  About the smoky air.  About the heat.  About sloppy workmanship that can appear during a simple, routine project."

 

So, you get upset when others complain about their Thai experience...but it is OK for you?

 

DA!

Do not pick which part of his post suits your agenda. Post the whole post then make your comment

[villagefarang]

One of the things which leads to an imbalance on the forum is that the malcontents love what they do.  You can warn, suspend, even ban them but they keep coming back to do more damage.

 

People on the other end of the spectrum are too easily put off by comments which should be completely disregarded.  Nice people tend to be more easily offended and the other guys know that and use it to their advantage.

 

I don't think we should play the mean game but I don't think we should surrender either.  Stand your ground by continuing to post the way you think people should post while ignoring the malcontents.  It also helps if we support each other a little.  Too often when someone is attacked others head for the exit because they are afraid of showing support.????

 

 

Edited April 22, 2020 by villagefarang

[impulse]

17 minutes ago, villagefarang said:

One of the things which leads to an imbalance on the forum is that the malcontents love what they do.  You can warn, suspend, even ban them but they keep coming back to do more damage.

 

People on the other end of the spectrum are too easily put off by comments which should be completely disregarded.  Nice people tend to be more easily offended and the other guys know that and use it to their advantage.

 

I don't think we should play the mean game but I don't think we should surrender either.  Stand your ground by continuing to post the way you think people should post while ignoring the malcontents.  It also helps if we support each other a little.  Too often when someone is attacked others head for the exit because they are afraid of showing support.

 

Agreed.  I can't imagine how much good information we miss out on because good people don't want to get called out on punctuation or grammar, don't want to be called a liar when they post up their genuine experiences, or get called an idiot because they've found that life generally treats you as well as you treat the people in your life- whether or not those people share your world view as a consequence of your respective places of birth.

[Ron jeremy]

Sorry to hear you moved to Chang Mai, I can understand your frustration , sold up back home, nowhere to go, can't sell there, stuck! Life's a bitch, then u marry one! Fellow Canuck too, never made the mistake of moving to Thailand thank god.

Edited April 22, 2020 by Ron jeremy

[CharlieH]

Derogatory Thai female generalization has been removed.

[473geo]

12 hours ago, BritManToo said:

No point in dealing with it, just hit the 'ignore' button.

I've got 3 pages of posters I never have to read anymore.

 

My current gripe is posters hating on foreigners trapped in Thailand by the flight cancellations.

There's no need for it, people make bad decisions and run out of money all the time, all over the world.

Be human, give them a bit of support, don't hate them.

Best they just get on with it then and not publicly try to pass the blame onto their hosts, for their self made predicament - that is what sets people against them

 

I have never put anybody on ignore, I've learnt to limit opportunity for personal attacks, and if it occurs they don't really get to me anymore, best thing to do is just make your comment if they come back with personal comment leave them hanging.......my bet is they will come back to the thread at least 3 times to check if you responded without quoting them ????

[tonray]

20 hours ago, villagefarang said:

social gatherings

Shopping at Tops market is a social gathering now ?

[RJRS1301]

18 hours ago, villagefarang said:

Thank you

[Yinn]

21 hours ago, Rotweiler said:

Yes, the number of Thai-bashing posts has decreased lately. 

I promise before POTY to drain the swamp.

 

 

21 hours ago, Rotweiler said:

 

But there still are – many

Not finished yet. 

 

[Yinn]

21 hours ago, kenk24 said:

Complaining is easy but not a lot of fun for other people to listen to... 

Generally speaking, farangs have easy life more than Thai. 

But complain so much. 

 

IMO this might be good for development, medical etc. 

But, IMO, you (some) complain so much, you forget to enjoy life. For what?

We live short time, dead a long time. 

 

*Thai culture not like listen to complain. Is selfish make other people annoying because your complaining. Bad manners. 

 

[colinneil]

2 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Generally speaking, farangs have easy life more than Thai. 

But complain so much. 

 

IMO this might be good for development, medical etc. 

But, IMO, you (some) complain so much, you forget to enjoy life. For what?

We live short time, dead a long time. 

 

*Thai culture not like listen to complain. Is selfish make other people annoying because your complaining. Bad manners. 

 

Genarally speaking farangs dont put up with been walked all over/ downtrodden like many Thais do.

Farangs stand up for themselves. Thai culture, bow and scrape before anybody/ everybody senior to them, never challenge things done or said by somebody senior, in case the senior person loses face.

Farangs ( me included ) can say sorry i was wrong, when do Thais ever do that?Answer never.

[Yinn]

21 hours ago, villagefarang said:

I have dealt with more bile and vitriol

Difficult. 

I not know that feeling.

Everyone love Yinn to much. ????

 

21 hours ago, villagefarang said:

 

on this little sub-forum than perhaps anyone else, yet I am still positive and still here.  

Negative people not like you BECAUSE you positive. 

When I admire you life, positive way, some member then not like me.

 

jealousy. Sure.

Thankyou help TVF be the better.

[rumak]

21 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

if you express any positivity on this forum you will be attacked.

I hope you are not becoming like another poster who can not write a post without COMPLAINING

that there are negative people on this forum.

There may be very good reasons why people do not like him.   When someone has to constantly

COMPLAIN  and not accept others comments that he may not like,  then maybe he is part of the

problem.    Boasting or thinking you are better than others is NOT  the way of a truly positive person , but rather shows insecurity .      oh, look what just came up on google :

One of the most common signs of insecurity is boasting about what you have and what you have achieved. Insecure people boast to try to impress other people. They do this because they fear deep down inside that there is something about them that is not good enough.

 

There are of course many types of people on the forum,  each with their own "personality".

I generally like the positive types, and the humorous ones.  Most of all I enjoy the people who

can articulate their experiences ,  not just quote or copy and paste.  

As for those who just want to put down others , boast about how great they think they are,

or call others who they might be jealous of TROLLS.................  well,  the world, and forums,

is made up of many types.     

Edited April 23, 2020 by rumak

[Yinn]

21 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

this forum is full of haters. 

 

if you express any positivity on this forum you will be attacked. 

good luck.   

 

When POTY game December, you “like” and “Thankyou” sticker many time people attack me. Many.

If you not do that I let you win. 

 

After i win, I say good job come second, many people like you. But you never answer. Bad looser. Still you sensitive.

Up to you.

 

Generally speaking you positive, not Thai basher.

 

You have superioty complex. Same me.

 

Rumak attack me a lot POTY game. I not care, now we freind.

Edited April 23, 2020 by Yinn

[rumak]

13 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Difficult. 

I not know that feeling.

Everyone love Yinn to much. ????

 

Negative people not like you BECAUSE you positive. 

When I admire you life, positive way, some member then not like me.

 

jealousy. Sure.

Thankyou help TVF be the better.

Yinn,  after i have got to know you a bit......   I am leaning on thinking that you might be ok   55

But you should understand that you do not really know what some members are like,

AND,   other people can have different opinions than you do.

Putting LABELS on people who do not like what/who  you do is not being POSITIVE.

It shows a lack of maturity.         I do have hope for you.

Not so much for the other guy   ????

[VocalNeal]

12 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

"Do I complaint about anything here?  Damn right I do!  About the smoky air.  About the heat.  About sloppy workmanship that can appear during a simple, routine project."

 

So, you get upset when others complain about their Thai experience...but it is OK for you?

 

DA!

This is funny. Depending where you live smoke was here before you arrived. Heat and easiest way workmanship was also here and in Indonesia and .... et al.. before you arrived.

 

No point in getting worked up and complaining. It will still be here after you are dead.

It is you who has to change. 

 

 

 

[Yinn]

21 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Genarally speaking farangs dont put up with been walked all over/ downtrodden like many Thais do.

Farangs stand up for themselves. Thai culture, bow and scrape before anybody/ everybody senior to them, never challenge things done or said by somebody senior, in case the senior person loses face.

Farangs ( me included ) can say sorry i was wrong, when do Thais ever do that?Answer never.

I think you are wrong “walked all over”. Never colonise by you farang. 

You think you will win, but in thailand, Thais always win.

 

We friendly, not weak. Is Thai national song. Sing everyday. Welcome to Thailand, but if you want to fight, we will win.

 

issan people a bit like you say. They not confident IMO, generally speaking. Your life is with Issan people= I understand you think that.

South people is not the same, askyour wife about south people, you not believe me.

 

You think Yinn not stand up? Pffft. The forum rules stop me.

 

Thai National song

 

The Siamese land well known as the golden land.
Establish this country with the great border.
Serve this homeland from clan to clan
We shall defend our native land.

Even sometimes we got attacked by the foes.
But thai people defend their motherland.
This is the land where people fight for them
Then we survive from clan to clan

This red blood shed after we die
But honor still alive and people have to pray.
Independent is pagoda to respect
We shall rise and stand together.

Protect the nation, long live sovereignty.
And we won't let, others take it away.
We shall Spray our blood until them flee 
Glory to our Siamese native homeland, Hurrah..

[Yinn]

12 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

It shows a lack of maturity.         I do have hope for you.

Not so much for the other guy   ????

Hmmmm. 

 

A group of elderly men fighting over stickers and POTY every year. 

Is maturity?

[CharlieH]

10 minutes ago, Yinn said:

I think you are wrong “walked all over”. Never colonise by you farang. 

You think you will win, but in thailand, Thais always win.

 

We friendly, not weak. Is Thai national song. Sing everyday. Welcome to Thailand, but if you want to fight, we will win.

 

issan people a bit like you say. They not confident IMO, generally speaking. Your life is with Issan people= I understand you think that.

South people is not the same, askyour wife about south people, you not believe me.

 

You think Yinn not stand up? Pffft. The forum rules stop me.

 

Thai National song

 

The Siamese land well known as the golden land.
Establish this country with the great border.
Serve this homeland from clan to clan
We shall defend our native land.

Even sometimes we got attacked by the foes.
But thai people defend their motherland.
This is the land where people fight for them
Then we survive from clan to clan

This red blood shed after we die
But honor still alive and people have to pray.
Independent is pagoda to respect
We shall rise and stand together.

Protect the nation, long live sovereignty.
And we won't let, others take it away.
We shall Spray our blood until them flee 
Glory to our Siamese native homeland, Hurrah..

You have missed the point Yinn.

 

Colin was referring to being "walked over", you have taken that to be other people. Thats NOT what he was saying, he said walked over meaning by your OWN people, by people in seniority in position. 

That is something farang wont allow, being walked over by ANYONE.

Its what Thais allow to happen to themselves, not what outsiders do.

 

Just to clarify for you ????????

[RJRS1301]

2 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

That is something farang wont allow, being walked over by ANYONE.

Not strictly true, we are currently watching people being walked over by the elected leader in a "democracy". they possibly call it expedient, while they rake in the benefits (short term) of despotic patronage.

 

[rumak]

1 minute ago, Yinn said:

Hmmmm. 

 

A group of elderly men fighting over stickers and POTY every year. 

Is maturity?

You are right.   I don't think you remember but I was  the ONLY  one who turned down

a "nomination".      Those type of contests bring out the worst in people ,  and like many

things :    what starts out as "good fun"   turns into a childish pissing contest.

 

 

[CharlieH]

4 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Not strictly true, we are currently watching people being walked over by the elected leader in a "democracy". they possibly call it expedient, while they rake in the benefits (short term) of despotic patronage.

 

The main point being "elected" ! So we chose we didnt and wouldnt allow the alternative. 

[Logosone]

It is of course true to say that Thailand is bashed too much.

 

Thailand has many good sides. The people generally, with some exceptions, have a level of good manners and kindness that we had in the west in the 1940s and 1950s perhaps.

 

Unfortunately Thais also drive like we did in the 1940s, their accident rate is worse than most African countries. And Thais do burn their garbage, their fields, and the air quality, from Chiang Mai to Bangkok, is so bad as to be real problem. Thai neighbours are fantastically inconsiderate, running power tools and keeping 5 dogs, all lose and allowed to roam the streets and attack people and urinate all over. Thai speaker announcements at 6.30 am from the friendly monastery neighbours at full volume and including tasteful dance music. Police are even more useless in Thailand than they are in other parts of the world, and distinguish themselves by their total absence in enforcing traffic laws.

 

Living here in Thailand you of course are confronted with these realities, which you could never fully appreciate as a holiday maker. It would be wrong not to complain about them, because they are wrong, and they mar what could otherwise be close to a wonderful experience.

 

So you have to weigh up if the above disadvantages to living in Thailand are outweighed by world class massage at a low price, greater and better restaurant options (provided the virus doesn't put an end to that) again mostly at a low price, kind and delightful people who have impeccable manners on the surface, quality low cost housing, good weather and such.  

 

It's by no means a clear cut decision against Thailand, or in favour of Thailand. It requires deep reflection.

[SkyFax]

10 hours ago, villagefarang said:

One of the things which leads to an imbalance on the forum is that the malcontents love what they do.

So do the narcissists.