5 hours ago, Almer said:

Interesting that they stress non air conditioned may be able to open, slanting towards the theory of heat and humidity again.

Maybe, but I think they may be alluding to central air con places that can cause problems i.e. the old Legionairre's disease vector

They did a study of aircons in Chiang Mai hotels several years ago..rife with Legionella....about half.  The recirculation is problematic.

Edited April 25, 20206 yr by moontang

20 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

non-story

No its not Golf courses may open on the 1st

21 hours ago, lujanit said:

Large groups for these sports?  They obviously don’t play any of these.  Truth is they have no idea. Just sprouting total c@ap as usual.

What?! You don't remember the horrible stampede that happened here one time at a badminton championship during which one elderly person was temporarily knocked to the ground?

21 hours ago, Kenchamp said:

Condo pools please

Yes please! It is hard to look at ‘my’ pool and not being able to use it.

If necessary restrict the number of people in it at the same time.

Exercise helps to keep people fit and be more resistant to viruses etc.

 

Open the parks and track fields...

 

OMG 

Is it for real ?????

so many comments, prompting mine, on a non event 

 

No meeting happened and no one knows what will the content, let alone the decisions, will be 

 

To the defence of the intervenants, maybe the inactivity due to the Coronavirus...nothing else to do ?

 

( I just read the title and jumped to page 5 ) 

Vulnerable groups should stay at home. Open it for all others. Thai people are hungry, they need to work, earn money. Not everybody sits on fat western pension.

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It seems to be about 10 times more deadly than typical seasonal flu. 

The new information coming out seems to indicate that it is about the same as the flu. Stanford University and the University of Southern California completed studies that showed the infection rate is 50 to 80 times higher than reported numbers. If you plug those numbers in to the currently infected compared to the death rate you get the flu on the low end and something far less than the flu on the high end. This flu is deadly for the elderly, those with compromised immune systems and folks with pre-existing conditions, what flu isn't, but for healthy people the death rate is statistically insignificant. We did not know this months ago so the reaction was reasonable but as we learn more we need to adjust what we are doing to reflect reality and the reality is, Covid-19 is not a global killer. 

NYC has had 11,000 Covid deaths.

Tokyo, the World's largest and densest city, has had 93.

NYC is locked down.

Tokyo was never locked down.

Both have had the virus for the same amount of time.

Why is NYC's death rate 250 times higher than Tokyo's? Just saying... 

 

15 minutes ago, Xaos said:

NYC has had 11,000 Covid deaths.

Tokyo, the World's largest and densest city, has had 93.

NYC is locked down.

Tokyo was never locked down.

Both have had the virus for the same amount of time.

Why is NYC's death rate 250 times higher than Tokyo's? Just saying... 

 

IMAO there is something not right with data, I think corruption, someone taking advantage of situation to steal more money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEdYlSjfEI&list=LLGnkHUc-2VMttGAuOz2-Mjw&index=3&t=0s

22 hours ago, TKDfella said:

Well, someone is in the know. I went to Tesco this morning and some of the external counters (mobile phones etc.) were being uncovered and it looked like stuff that had been stored was being wheeled out.

 

It has been apparent all week in the shopping centers in the provincial town near me that restaurants etc are preparing to open again.

 

i think government wants to avoid announcing decisions much in advance for the understandable reason that the second they do people won:t wait any further. But they have likely told big business already.

 

1 hour ago, runamok27 said:

The new information coming out seems to indicate that it is about the same as the flu. Stanford University and the University of Southern California completed studies that showed the infection rate is 50 to 80 times higher than reported numbers. If you plug those numbers in to the currently infected compared to the death rate you get the flu on the low end and something far less than the flu on the high end. This flu is deadly for the elderly, those with compromised immune systems and folks with pre-existing conditions, what flu isn't, but for healthy people the death rate is statistically insignificant. We did not know this months ago so the reaction was reasonable but as we learn more we need to adjust what we are doing to reflect reality and the reality is, Covid-19 is not a global killer. 

 

It was always expected that the true mortality rate would be not dissimiliar to severe influenza.

 

But that does not mean it is not a global killer.

 

The Spanish flu - which was influenza - killed somewhere between 17 - 50 million people after infected up to a third of the world:s population.

 

An infectious disease doesn't have to have a high mortality rate to be extremely deadly. It just needs to be really infectious and most for the world completely non-immune to it.

2 hours ago, Xaos said:

NYC has had 11,000 Covid deaths.

Tokyo, the World's largest and densest city, has had 93.

NYC is locked down.

Tokyo was never locked down.

Both have had the virus for the same amount of time.

Why is NYC's death rate 250 times higher than Tokyo's? Just saying... 

 

I'll hazard a guess - and this may upset some - perhaps New York City has many more vulnerable people with immune systems compromised by obesity, poor diet, (diabetes etc.) and a less effective or certainly less comprehensive (social or socialist according to your point of view) health system. These two things may lead to many more "pre - existing conditions" which both compromise the immune system and inhibit access to healthcare.

3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

It was always expected that the true mortality rate would be not dissimiliar to severe influenza.

 

But that does not mean it is not a global killer.

 

The Spanish flu - which was influenza - killed somewhere between 17 - 50 million people after infected up to a third of the world:s population.

 

An infectious disease doesn't have to have a high mortality rate to be extremely deadly. It just needs to be really infectious and most for the world completely non-immune to it.

Big difference is the Spanish flu killed young and healthy people. 

On 4/25/2020 at 12:49 PM, JAG said:

Guildford - is that the place with the cathedral which looks like a 1930s Art-Deco concrete gasworks?

You got it !

2 hours ago, JAG said:

I'll hazard a guess - and this may upset some - perhaps New York City has many more vulnerable people with immune systems compromised by obesity, poor diet, (diabetes etc.) and a less effective or certainly less comprehensive (social or socialist according to your point of view) health system. These two things may lead to many more "pre - existing conditions" which both compromise the immune system and inhibit access to healthcare.

nope its not that, its much more simplier, but lets have look on numbers shall we?

 

The 10 largest cities (Tokyo, Dhaka, Mumbai, Cairo, mexico City, Dehli, Beijing, Sao Paulo, Osaka, Shanghai), Have a combined population of 231M. Their combined deaths from Coronavirus is 930. NYC has 8M people. And 11,000 deaths. A death rate 200 times the average.

The world has a population of 7.8 billion. 200,000 have died from Coronavirus. The U.S. has 328 million. 54,000 have died from Coronavirus. That's 7 times the death rate of the rest of the world. Odd ... Considering that two thirds of the World was never even on lockdown.

 

The U.S. has a covid-19 death rate 7 times higher than the world average. And NYC has a death rate 200 times higher than the world's 10 largest cities. Could it be that the U.S. pays hospitals $39,000 for every patient diagnosed with Covid19? Nah, forget it. Couldn't be that.

 

When faced with facts that threaten a person's belief ... That Person will do anything to intellectually discredit those facts rather than question their own beliefs. The "Coronavirus" has proven that, Over and over.

 

On 4/25/2020 at 6:09 PM, Mac98 said:

How about nuru massage if done with sanitizer gel?

I will dwell on that thought for a bit longer.   Yep still dwelling.

On 4/25/2020 at 12:39 PM, jimmjam said:

well then , you sir have never lived. There is nothing like sitting at the side of the road eating a pad krapow inhaling all the fumes of vehicles stuck in traffic and passing out with half a fried egg stuck to your face. ????

 

You stylish fellow, you - all this Haute Cuisine must be lovely!

Actually though, I do agree with you...for me it's sitting at the corner of Soi Bukhaou and Pattaya Tai eating Kau Man Gai (the fried chicken and yellow rice version) and inhaling all the fumes.....etc etc ????

 

I love my Thai street food.......

2 hours ago, Xaos said:

nope its not that, its much more simplier, but lets have look on numbers shall we?

 

The 10 largest cities (Tokyo, Dhaka, Mumbai, Cairo, mexico City, Dehli, Beijing, Sao Paulo, Osaka, Shanghai), Have a combined population of 231M. Their combined deaths from Coronavirus is 930. NYC has 8M people. And 11,000 deaths. A death rate 200 times the average.

The world has a population of 7.8 billion. 200,000 have died from Coronavirus. The U.S. has 328 million. 54,000 have died from Coronavirus. That's 7 times the death rate of the rest of the world. Odd ... Considering that two thirds of the World was never even on lockdown.

 

The U.S. has a covid-19 death rate 7 times higher than the world average. And NYC has a death rate 200 times higher than the world's 10 largest cities. Could it be that the U.S. pays hospitals $39,000 for every patient diagnosed with Covid19? Nah, forget it. Couldn't be that.

 

When faced with facts that threaten a person's belief ... That Person will do anything to intellectually discredit those facts rather than question their own beliefs. The "Coronavirus" has proven that, Over and over.

 

Is it NYC that has a death rate 200 times higher etc, or is it New York State? 

Too late, outside today everything looked back to normal except for the masks.

 

all Bangkok residents seem to be mingling more than before covid 19 came along

3 hours ago, Xaos said:

nope its not that, its much more simplier, but lets have look on numbers shall we?

 

The 10 largest cities (Tokyo, Dhaka, Mumbai, Cairo, mexico City, Dehli, Beijing, Sao Paulo, Osaka, Shanghai), Have a combined population of 231M. Their combined deaths from Coronavirus is 930. NYC has 8M people. And 11,000 deaths. A death rate 200 times the average.

The world has a population of 7.8 billion. 200,000 have died from Coronavirus. The U.S. has 328 million. 54,000 have died from Coronavirus. That's 7 times the death rate of the rest of the world. Odd ... Considering that two thirds of the World was never even on lockdown.

 

The U.S. has a covid-19 death rate 7 times higher than the world average. And NYC has a death rate 200 times higher than the world's 10 largest cities. Could it be that the U.S. pays hospitals $39,000 for every patient diagnosed with Covid19? Nah, forget it. Couldn't be that.

 

When faced with facts that threaten a person's belief ... That Person will do anything to intellectually discredit those facts rather than question their own beliefs. The "Coronavirus" has proven that, Over and over.

 

 

Your real name must be John McAfee, otherwise I wouldn't know why you quote him word for word without mentioning the source.

 

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee?lang=en

4 hours ago, Xaos said:

The U.S. has a covid-19 death rate 7 times higher than the world average. And NYC has a death rate 200 times higher than the world's 10 largest cities. Could it be that the U.S. pays hospitals $39,000 for every patient diagnosed with Covid19?

 

So, how much were the hospitals paid to kill the patients?

11 hours ago, farang51 said:

So, how much were the hospitals paid to kill the patients?

i told u how much, 13k for reported case, and up to 39k for ventilated patient. 

 

Takie it from the horse mouth

 

USA 

 

 

Edited April 27, 20206 yr by Xaos

UK

 

On 4/26/2020 at 10:03 AM, Rhys said:

Open the parks and track fields...

 

Why would you want to track a field?

41 minutes ago, Xaos said:

i told u how much, 13k for reported case, and up to 39k for ventilated patient. 

 

Reported case and ventilated patient is not the same as dead patient. Even if you are crazy enough to believe the hospitals would on purpose wrongly diagnose patients as Covid-19 patients or put them on ventilators without the need for it, you do need to be a bit crazier if you believe that they kill them too ... to hide the evidence?

On 4/25/2020 at 10:03 AM, Kenchamp said:

Condo pools please

I second that !

many countries are easing lockdowns soon so watch out for any explosions in cases in case it all goes horribly wrong ,and a second wave arrives

I'll just take it as

'hurry up and wait'.