Trump says he is taking hydroxychloroquine as hedge against virus

[CaptRon2]

53 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Thanks and good read. Exactly what Trump’s supporters feared; facts and truth. 

Haha politico.com, here’s a newsflash for you, I am fairly confident most Trump supporters could care less about that rag.

We have very little to fear, the Democrats don’t have a candidate to  defeat President Trump, and if Nancy continues to keep making a fool of herself the House will be a walk in the park too. 

[CaptRon2]

57 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

You do know his buddy Rudy did invest two million in a company that manufacturers this ?

Always a good strategy if you have nothing constructive to add to the conversation just throw out some dirt with out checking the facts. 

Your great addition to the conversation is false news!

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/09/tweets/fact-checking-rudy-giulianis-ties-hydroxychloroqui/ 

You might want to try sticking to the facts in the future instead of just repeating old defunct rumors, it might help you build up a little credibility.

[wabothai]

Of course he is lying.

After waking up in the morning, he sits on the edge of his bed saying "who can i freck with today".

The guy is 'trem....' angry and frustrated.

[stevenl]

34 minutes ago, CaptRon2 said:

Haha politico.com, here’s a newsflash for you, I am fairly confident most Trump supporters could care less about that rag.

<snip>

True, for Trump supporters facts don't matter.

[metisdead]

Troll posts, inflammatory posts and the replies have been removed. 

[BeltAndRoad]

57 minutes ago, CaptRon2 said:

Haha politico.com, here’s a newsflash for you, I am fairly confident most Trump supporters could care less about that rag.

We have very little to fear, the Democrats don’t have a candidate to  defeat President Trump, and if Nancy continues to keep making a fool of herself the House will be a walk in the park too. 

The House couldn't care less which one of their clowns is making a fool of themselves because they know even if they present for president an Orangutan and Donkey, people would still argue which one had more merit. 

[CaptRon2]

25 minutes ago, stevenl said:

True, for Trump supporters facts don't matter.

 

26 minutes ago, stevenl said:

True, for Trump supporters facts don't matter.

Merriam-Webster Definition of bigot. : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Every time someone uses the words Trump supporters (indicating all of us) they further define themselves as a textbook definitions of a bigot. 

Do you agree that bigotry is improper and generally speaking bigots would be considered ignorant people?

Your very enlightening response to my post that  “for Trump supporters fact  don’t matter” is the well thought out, fact filled type of statementI remember hearing around the third grade, thanks for the trip back to my childhood.

[Inn Between]

Thank goodness The Real Donald is back in front of the camera. 

 

Hopefully, he's actually taking a nice pharmaceutical cocktail along with a daily does of household disinfectants and sticking a power light up his backside. Maybe if he adds a couple more nonsensical snake-oil "treatments" he'll do the world a favor and be overcome by them.  

[Berkshire]

15 minutes ago, CaptRon2 said:

Merriam-Webster Definition of bigot. : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Every time someone uses the words Trump supporters (indicating all of us) they further define themselves as a textbook definitions of a bigot. 

Do you agree that bigotry is improper and generally speaking bigots would be considered ignorant people?

Your very enlightening response to my post that  “for Trump supporters fact  don’t matter” is the well thought out, fact filled type of statementI remember hearing around the third grade, thanks for the trip back to my childhood.

This is a pretty ridiculous argument.  If I'm a Yankees fan and I speak negatively of Red Sox fans, does that make me a bigot?

If I despise white supremacists, does that make me a bigot?

If I say Flat-Earthers are nuts, does that make me a bigot?

 

Trump supporters as a group do have a problem with facts and the truth.  This is not a bigoted statement but a rather accurate observation.  Listen to Howard Stern.  Yes, the same Howard Stern who knows Donald Trump better than almost any Trump supporter.  He says Trump despises you.  Just watch the first minute of this clip. 

 

 

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, GalaxyMan said:

I don't think that he's insane, and nobody hates the jerk more than me, but he is seriously delusional. And very dangerous because of the position that he holds, and abuses. Thankfully, change is the one constant in this universe that we infest. ????

Technically speaking you're correct. It is unfair to bracket blameless people whose lives are torn apart by real mental illness, such as schizophrenia,  depression, and bi-polar disorder with someone like Trump who exhibits none of the empathy characteristic of a normal human being, but is not insane per se. He instead suffers from vast personality disorders. Narcissism, Sociopathy, and an ego the size of planet. I expect in the future he will become a classic textbook example for all those studying Psychology, Psychiatry, and Sociology. 

 

That day cannot come soon enough of course, but in the meantime, we can only hope that this discredited treatment helps. Triple the dose ASAP.

[wwwTowerOfBabel]

13 minutes ago, CaptRon2 said:

Merriam-Webster Definition of bigot. : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Every time someone uses the words Trump supporters (indicating all of us) they further define themselves as a textbook definitions of a bigot. 

Okay, let's look at that definition a little closer.

 

1. Trump supporters fervently support their leader, Trump, who by any objective measure is more obstinately and intolerantly devoted to his own opinions than virtually all people he has attacked. And his attacks, on the record, are filled with his intolerant and vengeful screeds (e.g., calling Democrats scum, calling African countries s***-holes, and countless other on-the-record rantings - the President of the United States, for God's sake). Thus, Trump supporters, as a whole, support a leader who is a textbook definition of a bigot. Exactly like Hitler's supporters supported a textbook definition of a bigot. It would not have been "bigoted" to attack Hitler's faithful political base.

 

2. Any objective observer would confirm that Trump supporter's bigoted intolerance against liberals is so extreme in their comments on online forums, that it is THE primary source of bigotry and divisiveness in America.

 

3. The definition quoted describes examples of a bigot's negative regard being against a racial or ethnic group. However, in forums there is no information about physical, cultural, or ethnic features of the people who post. Animus against Trump supporters is almost always against their bigoted lies and divisive propaganda.

 

4. Not all groups are going to get equal tolerance. People are generally intolerant against groups such as pedophiles, who try to justify their behaviors with rationalizations, lies, and false theories of right vs. wrong.

[Jingthing]

 

11 hours ago, Grumpy one said:

When will he start taking medication for loose bowel movements from his mouth 

The condition is way too far advanced in the patient for there to be any hope of an effective treatment.

[sirineou]

22 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

This is a pretty ridiculous argument.  If I'm a Yankees fan and I speak negatively of Red Sox fans, does that make me a bigot?

If I despise white supremacists, does that make me a bigot?

If I say Flat-Earthers are nuts, does that make me a bigot?

 

Trump supporters as a group do have a problem with facts and the truth.  This is not a bigoted statement but a rather accurate observation.  Listen to Howard Stern.  Yes, the same Howard Stern who knows Donald Trump better than almost any Trump supporter.  He says Trump despises you.  Just watch the first minute of this clip. 

 

 

A bit of the cattle  cheering for the butcher on their way to the slaughter house. 

[tomacht8]

I've been taking it for the last week and a half. A pill every day," Trump told reporters.

 

He is lying or he has not read the package insert. 555

As a preventive measure, hydroxychloroquine is taken only once a week (one tablet).

 

If he claims he takes a tablet a day, he is probably lying. 

 

[johnnybangkok]

4 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Just goes to show that education isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Enscription on your tombstone after taking hydroxychloroquine?

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

I've been taking it for the last week and a half. A pill every day," Trump told reporters.

 

He is lying or he has not read the package insert. 555

As a preventive measure, hydroxychloroquine is taken only once a week (one tablet).

 

If he claims he takes a tablet a day, he is probably lying. 

 

Having read up on the list of likely side effects I think he might be telling the truth.

[tomacht8]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Having read up on the list of likely side effects I think he might be telling the truth.

An overdose can lead to headaches, visual disturbances, cardiac arrhythmia, loss of consciousness, cramps, respiratory and cardiac arrest. 

 

I don't think his personal doctor would allow that. That's why I think he's lying.

[Phil McCaverty]

18 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

An overdose can lead to headaches, visual disturbances, cardiac arrhythmia, loss of consciousness, cramps, respiratory and cardiac arrest. 

 

I don't think his personal doctor would allow that. That's why I think he's lying.

He has a history of not paying his employees salaries. So you never know.......

 

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Phil McCaverty

[Crazy Alex]

I'll leave that to Trump and his doctor. I'm sure the people who keep saying we should listen to medical professionals will agree with me, yes?

[tomacht8]

11 hours ago, rabas said:

Start: My non partisan contribution to this discussion .....

 

Ending:  disruptive forces like Don Donald are required for this diabolical stage play called life on earth, to proceed. 

 

What's in between is basically incorrect on all levels. Azithromycin is not required, zinc is, and prophylaxis is likely far more useful for Chloroquine (+zinc). Many medical workers are on it for that purpose and many studies under way.

 

BTW, for prophylaxis they give zinc everyday and one chloroquine tablet per week up to one tablet per three weeks. No harm, anyone can take it, even kids.

 

Children under 35 kg body weight: The drug should not be used.

 

one chloroquine tablet per week:

That would be the correct preventive dose (as malaria prophylaxis). however, if DT claims he has been taking one tablet every day for 1.5 weeks, he is lying or is too stupid to read the instructions for use.

 

[CaptRon2]

3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

This is a pretty ridiculous argument.  If I'm a Yankees fan and I speak negatively of Red Sox fans, does that make me a bigot?

If I despise white supremacists, does that make me a bigot?

If I say Flat-Earthers are nuts, does that make me a bigot?

 

Trump supporters as a group do have a problem with facts and the truth.  This is not a bigoted statement but a rather accurate observation.  Listen to Howard Stern.  Yes, the same Howard Stern who knows Donald Trump better than almost any Trump supporter.  He says Trump despises you.  Just watch the first minute of this clip. 

 

 

Well I finally agree with you on something, yes you are making a ridiculous argument, and yes you are a bigot in each of your examples. Was the definition not clear enough for you? 

You make a statement like Trump supporters as a group have a problem with facts and the truth? Is 100% a bigoted statement, and an untrue statement. 

Howard Stern is an expert now, that is actually your credible evidence that Trump supporters have a problem with facts? Well you say it is a ridiculous argument why did you make it?

 

 

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

19 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

From what I have read, hydroxychloroquine has proved very efficacious as a prophylaxis measure. Has had some success in low to moderate severity CV 19 cases if taken with Zinc and Azithromycin and has had very poor results in cases of moderate severity and above. I think most of the testing has been on moderate and more severe cases.

What you read? Or what the stooges on FOX have been broadcasting?

[Crazy Alex]

3 minutes ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said:

What you read? Or what the stooges on FOX have been broadcasting?

What does it matter? It's between Trump and his doctor. Frankly, all this wailing and gnashing of teeth makes people look silly.

[Crazy Alex]

2 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Trump is not an arbitrary private individual. He explains his dosage to the whole world. Why does he do this? He trumpeted it. So if the president of the United States released medical information in the biggest pandemic since 100 years, it all matters. 

 

Ask yourself who is ignorant here

 

And make the effort to read the package insert for the medication.

 

It is known that DT tells a lot of garbage and that he is a notorious liar, so it doesn't hurt to critically check the information content of his statements.

Yes, I've asked myself who is ignorant here. So who should I assume has better information? The president's doctor and the president himself, or random posters on TVF with an obvious axe to grind.

[Susco]

6 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Yes, I've asked myself who is ignorant here. So who should I assume has better information? The president's doctor and the president himself, or random posters on TVF with an obvious axe to grind.

 

If I had to choose between TVF members, a clown, a presidents doctor who clearly stated that he prescribed it only because his patient insisted, and an expert immunologist with 40 years experience, I know who my money would be on.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

[ChouDoufu]

2 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Trump is not an arbitrary private individual. He explains his dosage to the whole world. Why does he do this? He trumpeted it. So if the president of the United States released medical information in the biggest pandemic since 100 years, it all matters. 

 

Ask yourself who is ignorant here

 

And make the effort to read the package insert for the medication.

 

It is known that DT tells a lot of garbage and that he is a notorious liar, so it doesn't hurt to critically check the information content of his statements.

package insert most likely does not cover treatment for this new virus.  there are other dosages:

 

The dosage varies depending on what the medications are being used for. On the low end, hydroxychloroquine is taken as 400 mg orally once a week for malaria prevention and should be continued for 4 weeks after leaving an endemic area. On the high end, hydroxychloroquine is taken as 200 mg to 400 mg daily for rheumatoid arthritis.

 

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-medicine-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid19-treatment/

 

It recommended chloroquine phosphate tablet, 500mg twice per day for 10 days for patients diagnosed as mild, moderate and severe cases of novel coronavirus pneumonia and without contraindications to chloroquine.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32164085/

 

fda emergency authorization, no dosage indicated.

 

https://www.fda.gov/media/136534/download

[candide]

3 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

I'll leave that to Trump and his doctor. I'm sure the people who keep saying we should listen to medical professionals will agree with me, yes?

Have you read the doctor's actual words (not what Trump claims the doctor said)? It looks like they have been written by his lawyer.

Edited May 19, 2020 by candide

[Jingthing]

He's the president. 

He could get a doctor to sign a scrip for crack if he demanded it. As far as I'm concerned he's a very very very big old boy and he can take any risks that he wants with his own body.

But again he's the president.

He's hyping this unproven and obviously sometimes dangerous prophylactic treatment.

About 35 percent of Americans basically worship this guy.

So he's setting an example that is very dangerous to his own fans.

Adding to that, this man is extremely irresponsible. It's known he has had some very close exposure to the virus.

So what does he do today? He goes to the senate which has many very elderly people and refuses to wear a mask.

That is unacceptable. What kind of "leader" is this? 

[EVENKEEL]

5 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

I've been taking it for the last week and a half. A pill every day," Trump told reporters.

 

He is lying or he has not read the package insert. 555

As a preventive measure, hydroxychloroquine is taken only once a week (one tablet).

 

If he claims he takes a tablet a day, he is probably lying. 

 

When I was issued this drug we started taking daily a week before entering the Malaria danger zone and continued a month after leaving. Not sure where you get the once weekly.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

What does it matter? It's between Trump and his doctor. Frankly, all this wailing and gnashing of teeth makes people look silly.

The moment Trump made a public statement on medication he’s taking and the dosage it is no longer ‘between Trump and his Doctor’.

 

Trump has been promoting this drug from the WH and he is now endorsing it with statements on his own usage.

 

If you don’t like people discussing Trump’s usage of this drug, take it up with Trump, he started the conversation.